Scooby's Werewolf Village - Game Over

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:03 pm

Austin

now I won't have to bother.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:05 pm

I hope that clears up how important I think it is that I prove myself to you Austin.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:09 pm

tru1cy wrote:Can someone explain to me , except Mr. BUbbles, without a long drawn out paragraph why we shouldn't be voting for Mr. Bubbles?

I'm not a special...btw, I see this game going the Remusicide route..

Anyway, I'm not a special

It's been explained. Multiple times. By different people. I've used short sentences. Simple words. Brief examples. And at one point quotes from movies.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 2:39 pm

Unagi wrote:
Tru1cy and Austin seem to be stuck in the land of not counting specials and not trusting Kraegor.

How do we count specials exactly? Do you know what Grund was? Do the wolves? No, I do not trust Kraegor, why should we?

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:16 pm

tru1cy wrote:Can someone explain to me , except Mr. BUbbles, without a long drawn out paragraph why we shouldn't be voting for Mr. Bubbles?

I'm not a special...btw, I see this game going the Remusicide route..

Anyway, I'm not a special

Thats hurtful. That you would want everyone's opinion except mine. Maybe I'd slip up and give you Austin as one of my wolves...

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:17 pm

Btw.. just to give my official stance.. I support Austin and Tru1cy. Yep. I think their reasoning is sound.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:18 pm

In fact it's so sounds Mr Bubbles

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:28 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:In fact it's so sounds Mr Bubbles

Clearly I cannot choose the cup in front of you...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:32 pm

Austin wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Tru1cy and Austin seem to be stuck in the land of not counting specials and not trusting Kraegor.

How do we count specials exactly? Do you know what Grund was? Do the wolves? No, I do not trust Kraegor, why should we?

Austin.

We can count to 6.

If you don't trust Kraegor as one of the claimed 6, then you have an evil-liar in Chaos too.

That is simply a fact. If Kraegor is not the Whore - then Chaos is evil too.

So, lets count together.... If we say that every unknown dead was a special, you still need 1 more to equal 6.
Lassr, Grund, mipe, stessier, Scoop. That's 5. Of which we can all likely guess that 2 were Special for sure (mipe and stessier)

So, maybe 5 specials dead.

And that's if Every unknown dead was special. All of em.

Just 1 miss, and there needs to be 2 specials among us.

Newcastle I guess, redrun maybe ?

You just toss these two that have claimed Special aside and presume they are lying.

I am not saying there is ZERO chance of it. But if they are lying - redrun or Newcastle MUST be a special.

That's how we count specials.

(wise move would be to simply wait for those two to chime in I suppose.)

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:35 pm

Fine, I'll withdraw until we hear from the annoy silents.

Withdraw Mr. Bubbles

But if Kraegor is a wolf, then so is Chaos, and Unagi is the sorc.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:37 am

Austin wrote:Fine, I'll withdraw until we hear from the annoy silents.

Withdraw Mr. Bubbles

But if Kraegor is a wolf, then so is Chaos, and Unagi is the sorc.

Ok, I _just_ got home from the bar... and this bothered me.

Steisser, gave us Theo.. Gave us "bubbles' who we wont kill, and yet with only 4 evil powers in the game, you somehow manage to get 3 more evils?

I assume

is meant to imply you are joking... But I refuse to be anything but serious in a game thats so annoyingly difficult to read on anyone. O no, everything is serious. As such not only are you a wolf, but rumor has it you are the wolf that begins and ends all wolves. You are the beginning wolf... You are the Caine of wolves. You need to make every other wolf bow to your wolfi-ness.

Any wolf in any game previous has nothing on you, they are all your biatch in wolf hierarchy.

Sarcasm aside...

U r nawt funny

Personally I am thinking newcastle is a better vote today not named bubbles. Whatcha think?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:14 am

Semaj,

We've been told: 4 wolves / 3 evil powers

Wolves do not need to be powered.

There could be:
Zerker Wolf: Theohall
Powerless Wolf: Mr Bubbles
Powerless Wolf: ?
Powerless Wolf: ?

Sorcerer: ?
Sorcerer: ?

That's what Austin was saying.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 5:29 pm

if that was the case, they'd already have won... unless we killed a few sorcerers as well as the wolf, because 6-1 = 5 ... 5 is half of 10, thats game over.

I thought Remus said a sorcerer scans as a human, but counts as a wolf for the numbers he gave us.

I'll look in a bit, football on

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:00 pm

Semaj wrote:if that was the case, they'd already have won... unless we killed a few sorcerers as well as the wolf, because 6-1 = 5 ... 5 is half of 10, thats game over.

I thought Remus said a sorcerer scans as a human, but counts as a wolf for the numbers he gave us.

I'll look in a bit, football on

Sorcerer wins with the wolves, but he does not count as a Wolf for counting of Wolf vs Human populations.

Sorcerer would count toward one of the Evil Powers (of which, we were told there were a grand total of 3).

Get it?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:15 pm

Semaj wrote:if that was the case, they'd already have won... unless we killed a few sorcerers as well as the wolf, because 6-1 = 5 ... 5 is half of 10, thats game over.

I thought Remus said a sorcerer scans as a human, but counts as a wolf for the numbers he gave us.

I'll look in a bit, football on

Just humor me here...

What does the "6" up there represent, and what does the " - 1" represent?

I'm lost - help me out.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 6:20 pm

Unagi wrote:
Semaj wrote:if that was the case, they'd already have won... unless we killed a few sorcerers as well as the wolf, because 6-1 = 5 ... 5 is half of 10, thats game over.

I thought Remus said a sorcerer scans as a human, but counts as a wolf for the numbers he gave us.

I'll look in a bit, football on

Just humor me here...

What does the "6" up there represent, and what does the " - 1" represent?

I'm lost - help me out.

nevermind - I see what you were doing...

That was the 6 evil players I had hypothetically listed, minus the 1 dead wolf.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:02 pm

ok re-reading those rules and clarifications made my brain bleed.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:25 pm

Semaj wrote:ok re-reading those rules and clarifications made my brain bleed.

You think that's bad... You should try playing the game.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:39 pm

Unagi wrote:
Semaj wrote:ok re-reading those rules and clarifications made my brain bleed.
You think that's bad... You should try playing the game.

I can see why so many people are no showing...

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:00 am

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:56 am

I'll say it AGAIN.... since folks are to afraid to kill anyone else... might as well kill Bubbles.

I am the supposed damsel in fuckin distress if Bubbles dies and I'm tellin you to lynch that bitch!

Bubbles

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:01 pm

Austin wrote:Fine, I'll withdraw until we hear from the annoy silents.

Withdraw Mr. Bubbles

But if Kraegor is a wolf, then so is Chaos, and Unagi is the sorc.

/shrug. what happened? you killed Scoop and all of a sudden you share his views?

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How bout this bit o logic... you tell me to visit Semaj to clear myself with you, correct?

How is visiting semaj more efficient than visiting you to clear myself with you?

But hey I'm the one looking guilty not Mr. Lookin for a Twofer Austin, eh?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:05 pm

Semaj wrote:if that was the case, they'd already have won... unless we killed a few sorcerers as well as the wolf, because 6-1 = 5 ... 5 is half of 10, thats game over.

I thought Remus said a sorcerer scans as a human, but counts as a wolf for the numbers he gave us.

I'll look in a bit, football on

major majority = lynch.

50% = shit or get off the pot.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:06 pm

err simple majority not major...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:06 pm

I am putting trust in Kraegor, and to move the day forward - I am OK in just getting behind his vote.

However, Kraegor - and others - please allow me to make the case against Bakhtosh here one last time.

Let me set the stage...

Our Seer, stessier has announced that he is the Seer and that he has a wolf.

The Wolves know that he is about to name one of their own, but don't know who it is.

When the call for any 'weredog' to step forward everyone has chimed in accept for Bakhtosh.

A player, at the time - unexposed makes the following rushed defense:

theohall wrote:
stessier wrote:Fascinating.

This game is a lot easier than I expected.

Sooooo, Mr. Bakhtosh...waiting for a special invitation? You have it.

Please give us your claim re: your status as Weredog.
Are you claiming Bakhtosh is a wolf??? I seriously suspect Stessier as faking the Seer claim with that lame argument of waiting for the last guy to push his "weredog" status.

Why wait for every single player to claim he's "not a weredog" ???? Why not out them sooner unless a) stessier is a drama queen and is the Seer, b) he's faking the Seer claim, or c) the "scanned' bad guy is Bakhtosh. What are the odds of "C" actually being true???? A) or B) 50-50 since it does seem like stessier likes drama.

stessier

Because I think he's faking the Seer claim.

Theohall is not in hot water at the moment, but he feels that Bakhtosh may very well be.

Is Bakhtosh the sort of player to think that people are talking about him. Is Bakhtosh the sort of player that may "make a move" to circumvent a problem he sees looming on the horizon.

You tell me.

Could Bakhtosh have been behind the scenese telling his fellow wolves that he just KNOWS he was probably scanned?

Was the above a wolf thinking he could make an argument before the wolf was even named - against the Seer. An attempt to dispuit stesseir before he "names his wolf".

And Bakhtosh, now - is claiming he is not a weredog - he is a villager.

What kills me about that is, as a Villager myself - I am trying to think of ways to be targeted at night, as that is the Best thing a villager can do, but instead Bakhtosh thought it would be wise to make himself a Non-Target, someone that should push their attention to anyone but him.

That is absolutely absurd for a villager to do. If you are a villager, ask yourself - would you have made that move at that time, and then pointed out:

Bakhtosh

Here is Bakhtosh discussing why he'll likely never die at night. The original post was made 60 seconds after Theo "went boom", likely a post that was trying to get in before Remus made the announcement that Theo took out Mipe.... (not one of the people Bakhtosh listed).

Bakhtosh wrote:
stessier wrote:
Bakhtosh wrote:If Theo goes boom, Stess, Myself and Chaos are on the chopping block since two of us have claimed night time immunity and splodie is the only way to take us out.
Ummm...you ain't immune to night attack.
With 2 of them identified, if they've used up their preparations, are they REALLY going to kill me and let one of their own die in the process? That's as close to immune as I'm gonna get.

4 minutes after Mipe is killed, Bakhtosh shares:

Bakhtosh wrote:Good move - kill the herbalist so the seer isn't protected. Here's hoping we have a hiding herbalist.

and then 3 minutes later decides that he maybe revealed a little too much about his knowledge, and I think back-pedaled a little to hard:

Bakhtosh wrote:Actually, I kept thinking Mipe was faking a role. Would be nice if he was faking herbie to protect our true specials.

If the days stalls and the Austin vote is where the other option is, I will side with that (as I do have him high on my list), but I feel strongly that there is a great chance at hitting "Wolf" in Bakhtosh.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:29 pm

Votes:

1. Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle -
3. Chaosraven -
4. Unagi - Bakhtosh
5. redrun -
6. Kraegor - Mr Bubbles
7. Bakhtosh - Mr Bubbles
8. Austin -
9. Semaj -
10. tru1cy - Mr Bubbles

Majority is 6.

Mr Bubbles - 4
Bakhtosh - 1

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:34 pm

Kraegor, I'd rather test Bakhtosh, but BUBBLES

is yer choice

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:38 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Kraegor, I'd rather test Bakhtosh, but BUBBLES

is yer choice

So - Vote For Bakhtosh then ???

Just a thought...

redrun, Newcastle - where are you two?

semaj, have you caught up. Do you have an opinion on who to vote for? Do you think Bakhtosh or Mr.B is the best move today?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:47 pm

Unagi wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Kraegor, I'd rather test Bakhtosh, but BUBBLES

is yer choice

So - Vote For Bakhtosh then ???

Just a thought...

redrun, Newcastle - where are you two?

semaj, have you caught up. Do you have an opinion on who to vote for? Do you think Bakhtosh or Mr.B is the best move today?

Listen, *I* know for a fact Kraegor is the Whore.

The rest of you guys seem hellbent on *NOT* using our Guesses before we get to Final Jeopardy no matter how many times (or different people) lay out the numbers.

redrun is MIA, tru1cy is MIA, Newcastle is MIA

So at this point I hope Bubbles explodes and takes me with him.
Then you'll know 3 things.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:49 pm

Votes:

1. Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle -
3. Chaosraven - Mr Bubbles
4. Unagi - Bakhtosh
5. redrun -
6. Kraegor - Mr Bubbles
7. Bakhtosh - Mr Bubbles
8. Austin -
9. Semaj -
10. tru1cy - Mr Bubbles

Majority is 6.

Mr Bubbles - 5
Bakhtosh - 1

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:53 pm

I am expecting Redrun to show up here at some point (hopefully today) and join the good fight.
I am hoping everything is OK with Newcastle, he's been abscent for a long long time, but he could show up - ya never know.

Semaj may actually decide to play this game at some point, perhaps he would be inclined to join the Bakhtosh vote.

I am not willing to vote for Mr.Bubbles today.

I am wanting to vote for Bakhtosh, someone you claim you are also interested in testing.

I am willing to vote for just about anyone else, but I don't see how voting for Mr Bubbles is even remotely a good idea - Especially if you know Kraegor is the whore.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:58 pm

Chaosraven wrote: So at this point I hope Bubbles explodes and takes me with him.
Then you'll know 3 things.

I hope so. Since they can't lynch you.. you are the best piece we can eliminate. Why do you think I want to die. You guys are so far off track anyway I feel confident that my day is today and with you gone the rest are easy pickings.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:10 pm

Unagi wrote:I am willing to vote for just about anyone else, but I don't see how voting for Mr Bubbles is even remotely a good idea - Especially if you know Kraegor is the whore.

I don't think it's a good idea.
I've explained why.
withdraw Mr Bubbles

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:16 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
Chaosraven wrote: So at this point I hope Bubbles explodes and takes me with him.
Then you'll know 3 things.
I hope so. Since they can't lynch you.. you are the best piece we can eliminate. Why do you think I want to die. You guys are so far off track anyway I feel confident that my day is today and with you gone the rest are easy pickings.

Kill, you mean KILL.

All it takes is Majority to Lynch me.
The only concerns with keeping you around are:
(a) listening to anything you say
(b) the added vote for them

The drawbacks to lynching you:
(a) Kraegor doesn't have a Safe Bedbuddy

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What I don't understand is people vehemently stating we HAVE to lynch you.
Then what?

Who are we going to TEST after you're gone?
Why couldn't we test them first?
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I'm not afraid to die in your teeth, Bubbles.
It will give 3 vital pieces of information to the Village.

#of evil specials remaining
Proof of Human and Claim for me
Proof of Human and Claim for Kraegor

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:17 pm

People I trust:

Kraegor 100%
Chaosraven 100%
Unagi has now entered the 75% range

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The rest of you

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Mr Bubbles - Wolf 0%

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:18 pm

I've decided not to put Bubbles over. I'll happily test Bakhtosh.

Bakhtosh

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:19 pm

Kraegor wrote:
Austin wrote:Fine, I'll withdraw until we hear from the annoy silents.

Withdraw Mr. Bubbles

But if Kraegor is a wolf, then so is Chaos, and Unagi is the sorc.
/shrug. what happened? you killed Scoop and all of a sudden you share his views?

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How bout this bit o logic... you tell me to visit Semaj to clear myself with you, correct?

How is visiting semaj more efficient than visiting you to clear myself with you?

But hey I'm the one looking guilty not Mr. Lookin for a Twofer Austin, eh?

I never said to visit Semaj; he was just a random name out of unclaimeds.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:21 pm

Thursday wrote:1. Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle -
3. Chaosraven -
4. Unagi - Bakhtosh
5. redrun -
6. Kraegor - Mr Bubbles
7. Bakhtosh - Mr Bubbles
8. Austin -
9. Semaj -
10. tru1cy - Mr Bubbles

Note for later, with other histories

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:22 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Unagi wrote:I am willing to vote for just about anyone else, but I don't see how voting for Mr Bubbles is even remotely a good idea - Especially if you know Kraegor is the whore.
I don't think it's a good idea.
I've explained why.
withdraw Mr Bubbles

Nevermind, I would not have put Bubbles over.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 1:24 pm

Austin wrote:Nevermind, I would not have put Bubbles over.

Note to self: If Bubbles does explode, Austin gains +50% trust