That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
I dunno, I'm more cynical. Feels more like CYA-planning for post administration. If your goal is to keep Trump calm and restrained, writing an op ed in the NYT about how you are undermining Trump doesn't seem like the smartest thing to do.
We live in strange times.RunningMn9 wrote:What in the actual fuck.
"To cover my tracks, I usually pay attention to other staffers' idioms and use that in my background quotes. That throws the scent off me," the current White House official added.
And of course it's not Pence. He's the one person in the Trump admin whose job cannot be in jeopardy, as he doesn't answer to Trump.Holman wrote:It's impossible to believe the anonymous contributor is Pence. He has everything to lose by alienating Trump's base.
Plus a couple have people have recalled this tidbit from an earlier article about White House leakers:
"To cover my tracks, I usually pay attention to other staffers' idioms and use that in my background quotes. That throws the scent off me," the current White House official added.
That sums it up nicely. We have methods to deal with a president like Trump. Secretly working against him from inside the administration is not one of them.Zaxxon wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:35 pm Tough to disagree with Frum here...
This is a Constitutional Crisis.
Needless Hamilton reference wrote:If there's a fire you're trying to douse, you can't put it out from inside the house. I'm in the cabinet. I am complicit in watching him grabbing at power and trying to kiss it.
"National Security purposes?"Trump wrote:Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!
Hurting Trump’s fee-fees is now a threat to national security, apparently.Holman wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:55 pm https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4433070080
"National Security purposes?"Trump wrote:Does the so-called “Senior Administration Official” really exist, or is it just the Failing New York Times with another phony source? If the GUTLESS anonymous person does indeed exist, the Times must, for National Security purposes, turn him/her over to government at once!
I have never even heard of the word "Lodestar" before. How many times do you think the word gets used in an year (written/spoken) in America, across the entire population? I feel like it must be Pence and maybe 2 other people who use it at all, let alone in such a high profile anonymous written text.
Sure, maybe. Seems too clever by half, but in theory our governments (yours and mine) are made up of (at least some of them!) top men (and women).Holman wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:20 pm It's impossible to believe the anonymous contributor is Pence. He has everything to lose by alienating Trump's base.
Plus a couple have people have recalled this tidbit from an earlier article about White House leakers:
"To cover my tracks, I usually pay attention to other staffers' idioms and use that in my background quotes. That throws the scent off me," the current White House official added.
Presumably he wants to continue to work in politics after this term is over. Which way that makes him lean, I have no idea, but I can see both paths are possible routes for him. He only needs Drumpf's base to secure his nomination. After that the likes of Em2 can safely be ignored (which is why they elected Drumpf in the first place, because they hated that they were irrelevant, hence the burn it down mentality) as there is NO WAY drumpf's base votes for a dem. They either get behind him or they don't vote.Zaxxon wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:22 pm And of course it's not Pence. He's the one person in the Trump admin whose job cannot be in jeopardy, as he doesn't answer to Trump.
Every time he bleats it makes me a little happier. It's never enough though. Until he's in jail, or blows his own brains out, or is publicly humiliated in a final, unrecoverable way, it will never be enough.malchior wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:12 pm If I weren't worried about, you know...civilization...it'd be nice to know that this shit goblin is pretty much suffering every day in agony. He is President and no one respects him. Everyone is out to get him. He deserves no less.
That should* already be impossible.GreenGoo wrote:
Presumably he wants to continue to work in politics after this term is over.
I think the real danger here is that drumpf is so bad that he has created a precedent where people work outside the constitution to undermine him. And many people are going to be fooled into thinking that's a good idea, on both sides of the aisle.RunningMn9 wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:21 pm Short of someone coming forward and admitting that they did it, and then resigning on their way to Mueller's office to drive a nail through this shit bag's heart, I have a deep unease that this continues to set up a *spectacular* fake news narrative. Maybe it's just my own paranoid nature.
Agreed 100%. It’s actually cowardice disguised and presented as bravery. These people are OT doing the country any favors, and I think history will not treat them well.GreenGoo wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 9:06 pmI think the real danger here is that drumpf is so bad that he has created a precedent where people work outside the constitution to undermine him. And many people are going to be fooled into thinking that's a good idea, on both sides of the aisle.RunningMn9 wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 7:21 pm Short of someone coming forward and admitting that they did it, and then resigning on their way to Mueller's office to drive a nail through this shit bag's heart, I have a deep unease that this continues to set up a *spectacular* fake news narrative. Maybe it's just my own paranoid nature.
The ends do NOT justify the means here. I'd only accept this sort of thing if it meant tackling him when he tries to push the nuke button, and that would be a one time emergency event the ramifications of which would immediately be dealt with, not as general operating philosophy for an entire term. I mean, wtf?
It's unconstitutional, and as it turns out, just a way to contain the problem while they all remain in power.
This is no different than covering up (damage control) corruption to "save the republic". Intentions might be good, but it's still illegal, and what happens the next time when intentions aren't good?
Perhaps it just means that the Op-Ed writer follows Merriam-Webster on the twitters:GreenGoo wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:47 pmI have never even heard of the word "Lodestar" before. How many times do you think the word gets used in an year (written/spoken) in America, across the entire population? I feel like it must be Pence and maybe 2 other people who use it at all, let alone in such a high profile anonymous written text.
Obviously that's not true, but to the best of my knowledge I have NEVER seen that word before, and I consider myself fairly literate, although not well read any longer.
I'm just learning now that it means "guiding star" in general or as a synonym for Polaris. I'm not saying that I know all words in the English language, but finding out that "lodestar" is used by the VP at the same time that it was used by an anonymous source in the WH is enough to convince me without a doubt.
Nice catch. That seems reasonable, but it still seems weird that it's a Pence go-to word (or at least his speech writers). It's hard to imagine that the anon writer was influenced by both Pence and Webster as two separate sources of the word.Max Peck wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:16 pm
Perhaps it just means that the Op-Ed writer follows Merriam-Webster on the twitters:
Yup. This.RunningMn9 wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:03 pm If you think the President is an amoral, intellectually bankrupt disaster - your duty isn’t to enable it to the degree that you can get policy wins while preventing Armageddon. *IF* you believe what you wrote, your duty is to work within the Constitution to end this Presidency.
You aren’t a hero for working in the shadows to realize this bag of shit’s worst conspiracy fever dreams. No matter what Brit Hume says.
Sure. Have the people doing the analyzing identified any other likely culprits (i.e. other sources being borrowed from)? Or are you suggesting the anon op-ed is misleading us into thinking it's Webster? Or what? Or is your comment just a statement of fact with no specific reference to the op-ed? Like, advice for all the future leakers out there?Blackhawk wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:27 pm If you're trying to confuse people as to your identity, you borrow from multiple sources. Unless your goal is to frame Pence, of course.
+ 1 & in full agreementZaxxon wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 6:35 pm Tough to disagree with Frum here...
This is a Constitutional Crisis.
Yeah, I don't watch tv unless there are animated cartoon animals involved. Or a morty.Zaxxon wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:41 pm Get thee to a computing device post-haste and binge The Wire, you uncultured barbarian.
Lol, people are holding my hand and I think I get it and then I read this.Kraken wrote: Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:48 pm The implication is that the NYT is being used for a criminal syndicate's politics.