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Not a surprise. She's a natural fit for him or Cruz, and that she would go for the biggest celebrity is no surprise at all.Smoove_B wrote:If the Internet rumors are true the Trump Sideshow is about to get ridiculous.
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Well according to Cruz's communication director:El Guapo wrote:How would that make things more ridiculous? Of course Palin is endorsing Trump. It would only be shocking if she endorsed someone other than Trump or Cruz.
Let that sink in -- we've reached a point where Presidential candidates are fighting over a potential Palin endorsement."I think it would be a blow to Sarah Palin, because Sarah Palin has been a champion of the conservative cause and if she was going to endorse Donald Trump, sadly she would be endorsing someone who's held progressive views all their life on the sanctity of life, on marriage, on partial-birth abortion, he supported [the] TARP bailout — it goes on and on and on," Tyler said.
Carson would be a more logical choice since he is the least-qualified national candidate since Palin. But one reality TV star backing another makes sense, too.El Guapo wrote:How would that make things more ridiculous? Of course Palin is endorsing Trump. It would only be shocking if she endorsed someone other than Trump or Cruz.
I'll wait until Mel weighs in. Gibson, not Brooks.tgb wrote:Why not? He's already nailed the Putin, Busey, Sheen, and Rodman endorsements. Once Randy Quaid comes on board, it'll be a lock.
That doesn't really do full justice to just how clumsily Trump was pandering:Holman wrote:The Trump quotation of the week is from his attempt to court Evangelicals at Liberty University, where he referenced "Two Corinthians, 3:17."
No doubt it looked that way to him on paper, but the audience knows that 2 Corinthians is always and without exception called "Second Corinthians." It's like the guest of honor at a Star Wars convention announcing that his favorite droid is "Cee-Three-Pee-Zero."
"I hear this is a major theme right here, but Two Corinthians, 3:17 that's the whole ball game," Trump told the arena of students. "You know, when you think -- and that's really -- is that the one? Is that the one you like? I think that's the one you like, because I loved it."
CNNNow the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
Donald Trump pitched himself Monday to Christian students at Liberty University as a politically incorrect protector of Christianity, tailoring his classic stump speech to the evangelical audience with mixed success.
"Christianity, it's under siege," Trump proclaimed early in his speech to the crowd of about 10,000 -- overwhelmingly Liberty University students who are required to attend the university's tri-weekly convocations.
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[The verse is] the university's "School Verse" which is prominently displayed on campus.
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Taylor Timmerman and Victoria Clay, both seniors, said they thought Trump's focus on Christianity during his speech did seem authentic, with Clay pointing Trump's friendship with Jerry Falwell, Jr, the university's president who spoke glowingly about Trump in introducing the Republican candidate.
Falwell, the son of controversial Christian evangelist and Liberty University founder Jerry Falwell Sr., noted that the university does not endorse candidates for office and has invited both Democratic and Republican presidential candidates to speak at the university.
But Falwell lauded Trump in a lengthy introduction that he offered to neither Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a Democratic presidential contender who recently spoke at the university, nor Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, who announced his presidential bid here last spring.
Falwell glowingly compared Trump to his father due to their shared propensity for eschewing political correctness.
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Trump's use of the word "hell" prompted some students to point to the university's student code of conduct, "The Liberty Way," which notes that any "obscene, profane or abusive language is punished with Reprimands and fines."
Trump used the word in reference to the U.S. conflicts in the Middle East (wanting to "knock the hell out of" ISIS, or "we don't know what the hell we're doing"), sparking local reactions on Yik Yak, the anonymous commenting website.
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Trump's invitation to speak on campus on Martin Luther King Jr. Day prompted backlash from some corners of the largely conservative student body.
So is the take away here, if you don't know/speak proper bible lingo then you are the enemy?El Guapo wrote:That doesn't really do full justice to just how clumsily Trump was pandering:Holman wrote:The Trump quotation of the week is from his attempt to court Evangelicals at Liberty University, where he referenced "Two Corinthians, 3:17."
No doubt it looked that way to him on paper, but the audience knows that 2 Corinthians is always and without exception called "Second Corinthians." It's like the guest of honor at a Star Wars convention announcing that his favorite droid is "Cee-Three-Pee-Zero."
"I hear this is a major theme right here, but Two Corinthians, 3:17 that's the whole ball game," Trump told the arena of students. "You know, when you think -- and that's really -- is that the one? Is that the one you like? I think that's the one you like, because I loved it."
It doesn't make him the enemy, it's just that he's trying to pass himself off as a devoted Christian in pandering to a devoted Christian audience and failing in an embarrassing way.LordMortis wrote:So is the take away here, if you don't know/speak proper bible lingo then you are the enemy?El Guapo wrote:That doesn't really do full justice to just how clumsily Trump was pandering:Holman wrote:The Trump quotation of the week is from his attempt to court Evangelicals at Liberty University, where he referenced "Two Corinthians, 3:17."
No doubt it looked that way to him on paper, but the audience knows that 2 Corinthians is always and without exception called "Second Corinthians." It's like the guest of honor at a Star Wars convention announcing that his favorite droid is "Cee-Three-Pee-Zero."
"I hear this is a major theme right here, but Two Corinthians, 3:17 that's the whole ball game," Trump told the arena of students. "You know, when you think -- and that's really -- is that the one? Is that the one you like? I think that's the one you like, because I loved it."
I even get the cee three pee zero equivalency and that's sort of why I inevitably feel a harumph toward piety and churches and such. Every time I walk into a place of worship it feels like a clique, like all of the things are pomp and circumstance and established relationships.
Except at the meeting halls where weddings and funerals and gaming and such take place.
Get rid of the temples and the like make piety all about the meeting halls.
Because being a thrice-divorced casino developer leaves so much ambiguity.El Guapo wrote:
It doesn't make him the enemy, it's just that he's trying to pass himself off as a devoted Christian in pandering to a devoted Christian audience and failing in an embarrassing way.
To be embarrassed, one needs to know shame. Trump doesn't know shame. I'm kind of surprised he didn't go off ranting "You want Jesus? I'll be the best Jesus you ever worshipped!"El Guapo wrote: It doesn't make him the enemy, it's just that he's trying to pass himself off as a devoted Christian in pandering to a devoted Christian audience and failing in an embarrassing way.
I still don't get it. Or perhaps don't trust it. Can you not be a devoted Christian if you don't know that 2 Corinthians is pronounced second Corinthians or perhaps don't honor that 2 Corinthians is pronounced second Corinthians.El Guapo wrote:It doesn't make him the enemy, it's just that he's trying to pass himself off as a devoted Christian in pandering to a devoted Christian audience and failing in an embarrassing way.
No, but not knowing basic lingo of the community suggests that you are not a member in good standing of that community, that the underlying material is something that you haven't really spent much time engaging with.LordMortis wrote:I still don't get it. Or perhaps don't trust it. Can you not be a devoted Christian if you don't know that 2 Corinthians is pronounced second Corinthians or perhaps don't honor that 2 Corinthians is pronounced second Corinthians.El Guapo wrote:It doesn't make him the enemy, it's just that he's trying to pass himself off as a devoted Christian in pandering to a devoted Christian audience and failing in an embarrassing way.
I feel dirty, as if I'm trying to defend both organized religion and Trump. I need a shower.
Again doesn't bother me. Maybe it's the not so Christian that is full of gnostic (is that the word?) apathy in me who constantly butchers references and confuses things. Don't know. It's not like he was butchering policy decisions and financial numbers... Well not here, anyway...El Guapo wrote:But I didn't know about the who "two Corinthians" thing (not being, you know, a Christian, engaged or otherwise). The rest of it was what I found so amusing - the whole "is that the one you like? Because I loved it."
"You guys love that Fireflea show, right, the one with the Millennium Falcon? Because I loved it."
I mean, it's fine with me if it doesn't bother you.LordMortis wrote:Again doesn't bother me. Maybe it's the not so Christian that is full of gnostic (is that the word?) apathy in me who constantly butchers references and confuses things. Don't know. It's not like he was butchering policy decisions and financial numbers... Well not here, anyway...El Guapo wrote:But I didn't know about the who "two Corinthians" thing (not being, you know, a Christian, engaged or otherwise). The rest of it was what I found so amusing - the whole "is that the one you like? Because I loved it."
"You guys love that Fireflea show, right, the one with the Millennium Falcon? Because I loved it."
I could have been clearer. The only take-away is amusement at Trump stumbling over a very (and I mean very very, as obvious as "C3Pzero") point of usage in a crowd where literally everyone else in the room has known the proper form since childhood. It marks him as an outsider precisely when he is attempting to sound like an insider.LordMortis wrote: So is the take away here, if you don't know/speak proper bible lingo then you are the enemy?
Grandma Gideon?Holman wrote:It goes along with his recent gesture of waving his Bible around ("the Bible my grandmother gave me,")LordMortis wrote: So is the take away here, if you don't know/speak proper bible lingo then you are the enemy?
"You guys love that Straight From Compton movie, right, the one with the Ice-T in it? Because I loved it."El Guapo wrote: "You guys love that Fireflea show, right, the one with the Millennium Falcon? Because I loved it."
It isn't "always and without exception" called that. I've heard people say it both ways numerous times.Holman wrote:The Trump quotation of the week is from his attempt to court Evangelicals at Liberty University, where he referenced "Two Corinthians, 3:17."
No doubt it looked that way to him on paper, but the audience knows that 2 Corinthians is always and without exception called "Second Corinthians." It's like the guest of honor at a Star Wars convention announcing that his favorite droid is "Cee-Three-Pee-Zero."
It is with that crowd. That was my crowd.Rip wrote: It isn't "always and without exception" called that.
He should leverage his hotels to present himself as a missionary.Jaymann wrote:Grandma Gideon?Holman wrote:It goes along with his recent gesture of waving his Bible around ("the Bible my grandmother gave me,")LordMortis wrote: So is the take away here, if you don't know/speak proper bible lingo then you are the enemy?
However, this is actually my favorite quote:“I’m proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for president,” Ms. Palin said in a statement provided by his campaign.
Using Trump's voice, it sounds perfect. However, I also then imagined Mitt Romney saying it and "high quality person" sounded awful. Like she would be in the first few pages of the AAA binder. Game on.“I am greatly honored to receive Sarah’s endorsement,” Mr. Trump said in a statement trumpeting Mrs. Palin’s decision. “She is a friend, and a high-quality person whom I have great respect for. I am proud to have her support.”
You can be a high quality person, and still be dumb as rock...Smoove_B wrote:It's official - Palin is down for the T:
However, this is actually my favorite quote:“I’m proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for president,” Ms. Palin said in a statement provided by his campaign.
Using Trump's voice, it sounds perfect. However, I also then imagined Mitt Romney saying it and "high quality person" sounded awful. Like she would be in the first few pages of the AAA binder. Game on.“I am greatly honored to receive Sarah’s endorsement,” Mr. Trump said in a statement trumpeting Mrs. Palin’s decision. “She is a friend, and a high-quality person whom I have great respect for. I am proud to have her support.”
Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
You cannot, however, be a high-quality person as well as a grifter, liar, and lunatic.Pyperkub wrote:You can be a high quality person, and still be dumb as rock...Smoove_B wrote:It's official - Palin is down for the T:
However, this is actually my favorite quote:“I’m proud to endorse Donald J. Trump for president,” Ms. Palin said in a statement provided by his campaign.
Using Trump's voice, it sounds perfect. However, I also then imagined Mitt Romney saying it and "high quality person" sounded awful. Like she would be in the first few pages of the AAA binder. Game on.“I am greatly honored to receive Sarah’s endorsement,” Mr. Trump said in a statement trumpeting Mrs. Palin’s decision. “She is a friend, and a high-quality person whom I have great respect for. I am proud to have her support.”
You're a strange one LM. This isn't the first time something as obvious as this hasn't registered on your "so what?" meter.LordMortis wrote:Again doesn't bother me.El Guapo wrote:But I didn't know about the who "two Corinthians" thing (not being, you know, a Christian, engaged or otherwise). The rest of it was what I found so amusing - the whole "is that the one you like? Because I loved it."
"You guys love that Fireflea show, right, the one with the Millennium Falcon? Because I loved it."
Trump's obviously not the first politician to pander badly, though this is probably in the Top 10 of bad pandering.Rip wrote:Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
(1) Hillary doesn't do that intentionally and if she does it isn't offensive, so they will still vote for her.
(2) Can you believe Trump miss pronounced a bible word? All those religious folk must hate her, or they are just stupid because they should run out and vote for the lady that attacks the women who her husband victimized. Like good christians.
Next Trump will be telling his audience how he's down with that Hey-zeus guy. You know, the one at the front of the church? That's the guy, right? He's the one that you like? Because I love him.El Guapo wrote:Trump's obviously not the first politician to pander badly, though this is probably in the Top 10 of bad pandering.Rip wrote:Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
(1) Hillary doesn't do that intentionally and if she does it isn't offensive, so they will still vote for her.
(2) Can you believe Trump miss pronounced a bible word? All those religious folk must hate her, or they are just stupid because they should run out and vote for the lady that attacks the women who her husband victimized. Like good christians.
I can't disagree with that. Sure, he is trying to pander to bible thumpers and since he isn't one it comes off poorly. Not much different than Hillary when she tries to pander to poor black people. It doesn't matter because both groups will support them because their other choice is someone they find offensive far beyond the offensiveness of someone pandering to you.El Guapo wrote:Trump's obviously not the first politician to pander badly, though this is probably in the Top 10 of bad pandering.Rip wrote:Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
(1) Hillary doesn't do that intentionally and if she does it isn't offensive, so they will still vote for her.
(2) Can you believe Trump miss pronounced a bible word? All those religious folk must hate her, or they are just stupid because they should run out and vote for the lady that attacks the women who her husband victimized. Like good christians.
You just can't help it, can you?Rip wrote:I can't disagree with that. Sure, he is trying to pander to bible thumpers and since he isn't one it comes off poorly. Not much different than Hillary when she tries to pander to poor black people. It doesn't matter because both groups will support them because their other choice is someone they find offensive far beyond the offensiveness of someone pandering to you.El Guapo wrote:Trump's obviously not the first politician to pander badly, though this is probably in the Top 10 of bad pandering.Rip wrote:Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
(1) Hillary doesn't do that intentionally and if she does it isn't offensive, so they will still vote for her.
(2) Can you believe Trump miss pronounced a bible word? All those religious folk must hate her, or they are just stupid because they should run out and vote for the lady that attacks the women who her husband victimized. Like good christians.
In the end of no importance from a "winning the election" perspective.
Mrs. Rip: Honey, you didn't take out the trash this morning like you said you would!geezer wrote:You just can't help it, can you?Rip wrote:I can't disagree with that. Sure, he is trying to pander to bible thumpers and since he isn't one it comes off poorly. Not much different than Hillary when she tries to pander to poor black people. It doesn't matter because both groups will support them because their other choice is someone they find offensive far beyond the offensiveness of someone pandering to you.El Guapo wrote:Trump's obviously not the first politician to pander badly, though this is probably in the Top 10 of bad pandering.Rip wrote:Which not so ironically is the polar opposite to most of you guys.El Guapo wrote:Ah, the classic Rip two-step.
(1) It isn't true.
(2) Well, regardless, it's no worse than what Hillary does.
(1) Hillary doesn't do that intentionally and if she does it isn't offensive, so they will still vote for her.
(2) Can you believe Trump miss pronounced a bible word? All those religious folk must hate her, or they are just stupid because they should run out and vote for the lady that attacks the women who her husband victimized. Like good christians.
In the end of no importance from a "winning the election" perspective.