The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:08 pm

https://twitter.com/stevenportnoy/statu ... 6235003905

It's important that mass killings by racists and Trump supporters not interfere with the rallies.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:14 pm

Of course Daniel Dale continues to be a (Canadian I guess) national treasure.

Thread.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1056281663544717317

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:19 pm

You can tell he's lying. No one in California addresses him as "sir".

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:24 pm

You can tell he's lying. No one in California addresses him as "sir".

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:01 pm

GreenGoo wrote:You can tell he's lying. No one in California addresses him as "sir".

Well, Nunes does while shining his shoes and kissing his ring. ...

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 1:29 pm

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 3911757824

POTUS wrote:Thank you to Steve Rogers, FBI Joint Terror Task Force (Ret), for his very kind and generous remarks about me and my relationship to Law Enforcement. @JudgeJeanine

Priorities.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:22 pm

So how many groups has Trump alienated (so far)?

Women check
Hispanics check
Blacks check
Jews check
LBGT check
Muslims check

Who is still in his corner?

Rich white fuks
Hillbillies

If the Democrats blow this they deserve the results.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 2:48 pm

WaPo

President Trump began his first public appearance after Friday’s arrest of a mail bomb suspect on a seemingly inclusive note, declaring as he read a script from teleprompters that “we must never allow political violence to take root in America” and pledging to “stop it and stop it now.”

But then he kept going.

Standing in the White House’s ornate East Wing, the president expressed annoyance that numerous bombs sent to Democrats and a news organization that Trump had long demonized had taken the spotlight from his Medicare drug prices announcement the day before. He told the audience of young black leaders he was addressing that the Democratic Party has betrayed them. He laughed along as some in the crowd chanted “Fake News!” And he echoed a chant of “Lock him up!” about liberal philanthropist George Soros, one of this week’s bomb targets.
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Later Friday afternoon, as he departed Washington for a rally in Charlotte, Trump told reporters he has no plans to tone down his rhetoric — “I could really tone it up,” he said — and noted that the suspect “was a person that preferred me over others.” He also rejected the notion of responsibility: “There’s no blame. There’s no anything.”

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:29 pm

I've never identified with an umbrella before.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1056 ... 73/video/1

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:32 pm

I'm sure someone else has already said it, but that umbrella is America.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 4:53 pm

That's a lifetime of entitlement right there. At least he wasn't holding a coffee cup when he didn't salute those troops.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:27 pm

He does the same thing with Melania when he boards an aircraft.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Oct 28, 2018 9:48 pm

Smoove_B wrote:I'm sure someone else has already said it, but that umbrella is America.

To be fair, I never expected any actual support from Trump.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:06 am

Here's the president responding to murderous political violence against his opponents, his conspiracy targets, and the media by blaming the media, "the true Enemy of the People."

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 2348195841

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 7974649856

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am

"The murders will continue until my coverage improves".

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:11 am

He is quite simply incapable of accepting any responsibility for his actions, nor is he capable of actually seeing any fault within himself. He is not only a horrible leader, he's a goddamn sociopath.

...although I think sociopaths probably have more integrity.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:33 am

Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am"The murders will continue until my coverage improves".

That's exactly what that sounds like. Horrifying.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:51 am

Paingod wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:33 am
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am"The murders will continue until my coverage improves".
That's exactly what that sounds like. Horrifying.

I wait for the day where everything is no longer consistently described as "horrifying" and "terrifying". Those words lose their impact if they're always used.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:54 am

pr0ner wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:51 am
Paingod wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:33 am
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am"The murders will continue until my coverage improves".
That's exactly what that sounds like. Horrifying.
I wait for the day where everything is no longer consistently described as "horrifying" and "terrifying". Those words lose their impact if they're always used.

The English language doesn't have escalations beyond those terms that could be applied for what's been happening in the US. I agree that the usage has diluted them, and that in itself is ... depressing.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:55 am

pr0ner wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:51 am
Paingod wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:33 am
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am"The murders will continue until my coverage improves".
That's exactly what that sounds like. Horrifying.
I wait for the day where everything is no longer consistently described as "horrifying" and "terrifying". Those words lose their impact if they're always used.

I wait for the day when I don't log on wondering what fresh malfeasance the president and/or his minions committed while I was offline.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:58 am

Well as expected he couldn't wait to call the new Brazilian dictator.

Someday I hope we can all look back and laugh at this. Somehow I don't think so.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:17 am

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9111994373

So now he's race-baiting Andrew Gillam, calling him a "thief". Trump is basically a 4chan troll at this point. He's doing a lot of trolling this morning-- probably a mix of election strategy and a bit of being defensive about current events. I guess being racist when being accused of being racist is his act of defiance.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am

How is calling someone a thief race baiting?

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am

noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?

Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:25 am

Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:09 am "The murders will continue until my coverage improves".

The way they have - and continue to - warp the definition to be "FAKE NEWS = anything that I don't like and/or is critical of Trump" continues to be horrifying. Especially since there is no end in sight.

The blind allegiance to Dear Leader and the way people are allowing that devotion to entirely define who they are is baffling to me.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:35 am

Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am
noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?
Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?

Most Republicans would say anyone who raises taxes is a thief. Also, Tallahassee is part of a federal corruption probe.

Trump is an idiot. He saw DeSantis on Fox and Friends where he said, "“Why the heck would law enforcement send an undercover agent to line [Gillum's] pockets if he wasn’t under investigation? Of course he is,”

I think race-baiting is a stretch.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:41 am

noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:35 am
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am
noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?
Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?
Most Republicans would say anyone who raises taxes is a thief.

He doesn't call any other Democrat a "thief". His prior tweet just minutes before was about "gang members" in the caravan, you know, the one a few days ago he claimed was full of middle easterners.

IMO, it's no longer a stretch to see these attacks as race-baiting. He has a history. Perhaps I'd give somebody else without this history the benefit of the doubt for calling Gillam a "thief", but not Trump. He knows what he's doing.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:48 am

Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:41 am He doesn't call any other Democrat a "thief". His prior tweet just minutes before was about "gang members" in the caravan, you know, the one a few days ago he claimed was full of middle easterners.

IMO, it's no longer a stretch to see these attacks as race-baiting. He has a history. Perhaps I'd give somebody else without this history the benefit of the doubt for calling Gillam a "thief", but not Trump. He knows what he's doing.

I think he latches on the most convenient toddler sound bite he can, whether it makes any sense or not.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:03 pm

At this point, I think saying it's *not* race-baiting is the real stretch. Trump knows exactly what he's doing, and that's as dog-whistly as it gets.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:14 pm

I find it very weird that you guys are equating thief and black yet accusing Trump of doing the race-baiting.

edit: Trump definitely race baits, but he's not subtle AT ALL. Ever.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:29 pm

Regardless of whether it's intentional race baiting or not, the effect is largely the same.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:32 pm

noxiousdog wrote:I find it very weird that you guys are equating thief and black yet accusing Trump of doing the race-baiting.

It's general knowledge that racists equate black people with crime. You don't have to be a racist yourself to understand that. Just this past weekend SNL made a joke about Trump "clearing valuables off of his desk" before the Kanye meeting.

Maybe he meant it that way, maybe he didn't. But when a guy who does racist things and says racist things about minorities ALL THE TIME says something that can be construed to be race-baiting, I'm going to call him out on it. It's not my fault his behavior up to this point has not allowed me to give him the benefit of the doubt.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:33 pm

I don't know that it matter much at the end of the day. You wouldn't go broke betting that something Trump said has racist intent behind it, but who knows exactly what he's thinking here.

The other thing is that there is a federal criminal investigation that implicates Gillum. At least part of Trump's intent is probably to just say that he's a criminal repeatedly, which will tend to focus people's minds on that investigation.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:34 pm

YellowKing wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:32 pm...when a guy who does racist things and says racist things about minorities ALL THE TIME...

He may not be a racist in reality, but he certainly plays one in the Oval Office.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:35 pm

Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am
noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?
Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?

He did the same with Hillary and she’s not black.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:37 pm

Grifman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:35 pm
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am
noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?
Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?
He did the same with Hillary and she’s not black.

If there's one thing that Trump understands (and there probably is exactly one thing that he understands), it's the power of branding. He just needs something marginally reality-based to latch on to, and then he can drive a truck through it by just repeating an associated label over and over again.

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:38 pm

noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:35 am
Captain Caveman wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:22 am
noxiousdog wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:21 am How is calling someone a thief race baiting?
Raising the specter of criminality based on nothing?
Most Republicans would say anyone who raises taxes is a thief. Also, Tallahassee is part of a federal corruption probe.

Trump is an idiot. He saw DeSantis on Fox and Friends where he said, "“Why the heck would law enforcement send an undercover agent to line [Gillum's] pockets if he wasn’t under investigation? Of course he is,”

I think race-baiting is a stretch.

I agree. If he had said “thug” I would agree with the race baiting accusation but thief is pretty race neutral. There is a corruption case swirling around Gillum so to call him a thief does not appear to have a racial connotation to me.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:41 pm

This is Trump race baiting, "Many Gang Members and some very bad people are mixed into the Caravan heading to our Southern Border. Please go back, you will not be admitted into the United States unless you go through the legal process. This is an invasion of our Country and our Military is waiting for you!"

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:09 pm

Grifman wrote:He did the same with Hillary and she’s not black.

But she's a woman. Both groups have about the same status in Trump world.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:14 pm

These theories about why Trump said it are also not contradictory. Calling Gillum a thief, even in the absence of evidence, helps brand him as a criminal and associate the public's mind with the criminal case involving him. Trump clearly also thinks of black people as criminals or potential criminals as well, and that's another reason for Trump to call Gillum a thief. Whether Trump's motivation is 80% the former and 20% the latter, or vice versa, doesn't really matter much.