WW - OO JL : Game Over

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:57 am

triggercut wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Your point #2 seems to imply only two bad guys.
Perhaps not an ironclad cinch, but it should be a winner.

Austin + Lassr = 2.

Are you aware of a non-existant Harlan? If that's the case, how?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:31 am

triggercut wrote:
1. Lynch Lassr first. I think he's a badguy.If he's not, he's done zilch to try to quash his seeming badguyness. If we lose, blame it on him spending the entire game being coy and unhelpful about his status.

You guys must have me on ignore.
I played my usual sit back and watch and mix in different votes on day 1 but after that I tried to help but no one ever commented on anything I said unless it was something about me being evil. I was ignored and assumed to be evil and I'm at the top of every ones list now. Whatever I say now is just going to taint the viewpoint of you guys. So get me out of the way.

I wish I hadn't voted for Austin yesterday and maybe eventually you would have come to your senses but the Supers wanted to test this theory, so be it. Good luck. Go JLA!

edit:fixed quote

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:38 am

Lassr wrote:
triggercut wrote:
1. Lynch Lassr first. I think he's a badguy.If he's not, he's done zilch to try to quash his seeming badguyness. If we lose, blame it on him spending the entire game being coy and unhelpful about his status.

You guys must have me on ignore.
I played my usual sit back and watch and mix in different votes on day 1 but after that I tried to help but no one ever commented on anything I said unless it was something about me being evil. I was ignored and assumed to be evil and I'm at the top of every ones list now. Whatever I say now is just going to taint the viewpoint of you guys. So get me out of the way.

I wish I hadn't voted for Austin yesterday and maybe eventually you would have come to your senses but the Supers wanted to test this theory, so be it. Good luck. Go JLA!

edit:fixed quote

and when I say "you would have come to your sense" I meant "you guys". I actually think you were against the Austin lynch.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:47 am

/watches Lassr flap his gums

"yeah, yeah lex, you'll get your meeting with the hangman tomorrow; just tell us who is harley quinntuple and we'll call it even. Truicy? Rev? stessier?"

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:51 am

If alive, may convert a Normal to Harley Quin once per game.

Chaos, can a conversion and kill occur on the same night?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:10 pm

ahh nevermind

Villains submit an Attack.
***** If Joker is alive, may convert a Normal to Harley Quin once per game, option will be presented upon a Successful Attack against a Normal.

I presume this means, a second attack cannot be performed after the conversion choice is made.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:27 pm

"So let me get this straight... you think I'm going to just WALK out the airlock?"

AUSTIN pulled out an enormous gun ("overcompensating", muttered triggercut) and pointed it at REMUS WEST.

"If *I* go, *he* goes with me," AUSTIN giggled, and pulled the trigger.

The Gun exploded in his hand, the little Bang flag embedded in his chest.

AUSTIN was Dead, and he had killed REMUS WEST

1. Mr Bubbles
2. Remus West
3. Kraegor
4. Newcastle
5. Lassr
6. Grundbegriff
7. JimDave
8. triggercut
9. Austin
10. sectoid
11. stessier
12. tru1cy
13. Sean, Minister of KtSP
14. Unagi
15. Scoop20906
16. RevHempus71
17. semaj

Night
Wonder Woman - will you Compel?
Martian Manhunter - who will you Contact?
Green Lantern - will you use your Ring?
Wonder Twins - will you Transform?
Lex Luthor - who will you Scan?
Villains - who will you attack?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:42 pm

whelp - that was no real mystery... adios senor remus...now who shall be the night kill?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:52 pm

Guess we'll find out sometime next week.

Oh well, I am rather bummed that I cast my vote for Austin, but I have only myself to blame. I had promised myself that was the 1 vote I wouldn't make today, yet I knew (well, in that way Scoop 'knows') that Sean would likely side with Remus and then when Kraegor put his vote down... well - who the hell was I to delay the game...

What really sucks is, I swear each and every one of us was pretty certain Austin was indeed Joker.

Stessier's position on this lynch absolutely doesn't clear him in my mind. LoD knew they had given us a fork in the road.... For the LoD to have 1 member step forward and present the 'No Lose Strat' is, to me, a fairly easy move for them to make.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:01 pm

Unagi wrote: What really sucks is, I swear each and every one of us was pretty certain Austin was indeed Joker.

I was not.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:03 pm

Don't worry guys. I've got a plan to pull us out of this pickle.

The twins are transforming tonight and we'll be seeing Grundbegriff in the morning.

Sweet rule-set Chaos!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:05 pm

Kraegor wrote:
Unagi wrote: What really sucks is, I swear each and every one of us was pretty certain Austin was indeed Joker.
I was not.

Shoosh, you don't count.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:39 pm

1. Kraegor - t
2. Newcastle - t
3. Lassr - EVIL
4. triggercut - T
5. stessier - U
6. tru1cy - U
7. Sean, Minister of KtSP T
8. Unagi -T
9. RevHempus71 -U

Tomorrow there will be 8 folks left...2 evil ones.

8 - l1, k1 - say we lynch lassr since he has that Doomer tattoo)
4 unknowns, 4 knowns - lassr = evil

6 - l1- k1 1 bad guy left
3 K - 3uk

4 l1 - k 1
2k-2u

basically the way i view it, assuming lass is evil - we have 2 lynches to find 1, 3 lynches to find 2 ...out of a suspect pool of 4.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:08 pm

Newcastle wrote:basically the way i view it, assuming lass is evil - we have 2 lynches to find 1, 3 lynches to find 2 ...out of a suspect pool of 4.

I would state it a different way. We now have one miss and we lose on the second one. We aren't going to know anything when we lynch someone. So we lynch two people and await the result. If we win, we got the last two. If we lose, we missed the last two. If the game goes on, we got one. We then have to decide between the two remaining unknowns.

That being said, I agree Lassr is Evil. After that final vote, no matter his hiding behind "the will of the Supers", he has to be the second. It also makes even more sense, now, why Sectoid was off-ed.

Sectoid wrote:Well, I just caught up on reading. Geesh... Anyway, last time I follow Remus' vote. Should have kept my vote on Austin, I always screw that up. At least I should have less to read when I log on here since Grund has been 86ed. I think the LoD have a few targets to choose from now thanks to everyone not being able to keep in under their hats, glasses, in their pants...whatever. Some of you seem oddly happy about how today's events unfolded. Others are keeping quiet and trying not to make waves. I still have my eye on Austin, but Lassr is also too quiet for my liking. I should probably keep my mouth shut. Last time I said someone was too quiet, Grund wrote War and Peace in the this place.
Best wishes to Rev and his family.
Well, until tomorrow, this is Apache Chief saying "Inyuk-chuk".

It looks like Sectoid was slow playing Austin so that he wasn't discovered like pr0ner in the BSG game on GT, and then decided to scan Lassr next. Once they read that, they had to assume that he was WW just in case, and had no choice but to get rid of him. He might take a risk that night because he only had one LoD, but once he found the second, he (hopefully) would have been shouting it from the roof tops.

Throw in everything else you dug up in your History Review, and, yeah, Lassr's got my vote.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:05 pm

MEANWHILE, BACK AT JUSTICE LEAGUE HEADQUARTERS...

"Hey Red Arrow" called out Hawkgirl
"Yeah?'
"Do *you* have a nifty arrow like yer Dad?"
"Uh, nope, I'm just flavor text, why?"
"Because we've got another body in the hallway" she replied, pointing to UNAGI, lifeless.

FRIDAY MORNING
Players will vote to Lynch One Player by Majority.
Majority is 5.
Green Lantern: will you use your Ring?

1. Mr Bubbles
2. Remus West
3. Kraegor
4. Newcastle
5. Lassr
6. Grundbegriff
7. JimDave
8. triggercut
9. Austin
10. sectoid
11. stessier
12. tru1cy
13. Sean, Minister of KtSP
14. Unagi
15. Scoop20906
16. RevHempus71
17. semaj

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:41 pm

So it is rather obvious (to me anyways) why Remus got the bomb and Unagi got the kill. Both of them had 1 thing in common. That is me being lower on thier suspect lists. The LoD are hopeing that Newcastle and Trigg can get Kreagor and Sean to put me at the top of the lynch lists. This would be a very BIG mistake. I am JLA all the way.

I 99.9% believe Austin naming tru1cy was a ruse to get us to waste a lynch on him. With that belief firmly planted in my mind the only 2 unknowns left are Stessier and Lassr. I believe they are hoping that Newcastle can lead me to my death again.

Since we all are in agreement that Lassr is 100% evil, I vote for Stessier

. I know that after Stessier is gone then Lassr is gone we win. Thier is a chance that Tru1cy is the badguy, but I can't see that being the case.

Known:
Newcastle
Triggercut
Kreagor
Sean

Unknown:
Lassr
Stessier
RevHempus
Tru1cy

8 remaining players 2 of which are badguys. So 6 vs 2.

6 - 2
Lynch, Kill. If a miss...
4 - 2
Lynch, Kill. If a miss we lose.

So we only have 1 miss left or we loose.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:32 pm

[ezmate]I'll be at the McWane Center in Birmingham with the family Monday.[/ezmate]

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:38 am

i am actually worried about the dissapearing truicy effect. i hope it wont become a factor in terms of a deadlock or anything. Or am wondering if truicy was simply trying to push the envelope in terms of being a quiet evil guy.

Also pretty aggressive there Rev, can't truicy be a bad guy? Kind of curious as to why you think it's stessier..obviously you dont think you are a guilty party here. truicy hasn't really done anything this game to indicate he is a good guy.

anyway...thinking out loud here.....austin = bad guy, austin can recruit....austin also realize he needs to recruit fast or else he will get scanned. Who does austin recruit?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:40 am

lassr

the bird in hand thingy is why; better than two in the push.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:31 am

So yeah. Lassr and Rev are our last two. What order do we take them?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:27 pm

yeah rev raised my eyebrows with his last little spiel.

though i need to add that stessier has been quite perceptive in things;

we could take rev today, then lassr tomorrow. whichever way you guys wanna roll.

withdraw

lassr

just willing to go with the flow is all

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:42 pm

RevHempus71 wrote: Since we all are in agreement that Lassr is 100% evil, I vote for Stessier

. I know that after Stessier is gone then Lassr is gone we win.

if lassr is 100% evil, why would we save him for last?

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:00 pm

Actually, I think I see the Rev's point.

Hmm.

I'm good with Stessier

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:31 pm

Withdraw stessier

Yeah, that wasn't gonna work anyway.

Here's the way I see it:

1. We knew Austin was the Joker, and the badguys needed us to kill him first to get the numbers lined up for them to win.

2. We still did it, anyway. Lord knows why. It was a lousy play.

3. Even so, tru1cy's departure from active play in the game hurts the badguys. They know this. They're hoping we won't.

Here's the deal: tru1cy had to leave the game. I will say that this makes him almost a lock to be a goodguy now. A badguy leaving the game would put us in a situation where the game would stop if we got the other remaining badguys lynched. If he posts "I can't participate further" due to real life intrusion, and then continues to post pms behind the scenes and kill orders...well, that's the skankiest way to win a game we've ever had. I don't think tru would do it that way, either.

I'm marking him as innocent.

That leaves stessier, Lassr, and Rev. Two of these three are badguys. Lassr and Rev jump off the page. Which goes first?

I say we stick to the plan. Lassr

Superman was chosen for a reason: the badguys know they're screwed and just wanted to mess with Remus. Shame guys. Kraegor, Sean, Newcastle, and I all have, as far as I can see, ironclad credentials as being trusted. Remus was never tested in any way beyond "no one counterclaimed him". Perhaps there was an opportunity to sow some mistrust, especially since he advocated the addlepated, remuscidal strategy of lynching Austin. I appreciate y'all making this easier now.

Let's finish this.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:38 pm

lassr

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:57 pm

lassr

works for me.

i agree with your reasoning in terms of truicy triggercut.

right now i think it's a coin flip between stessier and rev; with rev leading the race a bitmore than stessier in the evil category.

he came out with a very aggressive move at the break of dawn. a bold play, and we all know who needs bold plays right now..right? el baddies.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:59 pm

Votes -

Majority is 5

Rev - Stessier
Trigg - Lassr
Kraeggor - Lassr
Newc - Lassr

Stessier (1) - Rev
Lassr (3) - Trigg, Kraeggor, Newcastle

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:13 pm

It must've been hilarious when Lassr and Austin realized they were on the badguy team together. I'm sure both are stunned to have survived this long.

Sean, Minister of KtSP · Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:48 pm

Lassr

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:32 pm

you know the more i think of it, it made me wonder why lassr didn't accuse austin straight off the bat. And I think he couldn't really roll on the austin train on day 1 because he couldn't force austin up that high yet. I think Truicy's move was an unknowing block of his. What i conclude from that...truicy is probably innocent.

Just something to mull over.

So now we need rev or stessier to flip their votes on to lassr.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:25 pm

I will vote for Lassr if that is what you want. But I am telling you that Stessier is the other badguy. Can't you see they set us up to trust Stessier. They killed Unagi and Remus solely to move me up the suspect list. Think about it. Stessier is EVIL. If you lynch me tomarrow we loose, the JLA that is. All I can say is if/when you lynch me tomarrow Stessier will be rubbing your noses in the fact that I was right all along, and you guys bought his "I am a helpful badguy ploy".

Newcastle, it was a bold aggressive move come morning from me. It had to be. As soon as I saw that Unagi was killed I knew you guys would have me in mind. I had to at least try to reason with you guys. Well good luck, and when it is all over remember..... I told you so.......

OOC/ I will be back in a few, time for dinner.....

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 5:59 pm

your argument is flawed. if lassr is 100% evil as you mr. told you so have stated.

there's was no miss. and it's 1 bad guy left. a miss tomorrow is not a loss.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:30 pm

Here is what I meant....

Knowns:
Sean
Newcastle
Kreagor
Triggercut

Unknowns:
RevH
Stessier
Lassr
Tru1cy, who I believe would not leave the game if doing so would hurt it badly so he must be innocent.

So that leaves:
RevH, I know I am innocent
Stessier, so he has to be Evil
Lassr, we all agree he is Evil

6 vs 2
Lynch Lassr, night kill
5 vs 1
Lynch me, night kill
3 vs 1
As long as you lynch Stessier we will win, if not we loose
.........................

Ok, nevermind if you lynch me tomarrow you have 1 more chance to lynch Stessier. I am good with that.

Sorry about the "Told you so", little premature on my part......... that's what she said................

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:31 pm

On the note sheet I was working from I didn't have Tru1cy on it that is why I screwed up the math.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:06 pm

just vote lassr revie old boy; let's get this dog and pony show rolling.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:57 pm

Newcastle wrote:just vote lassr revie old boy; let's get this dog and pony show rolling.

withdraw Stessier

Lassr

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Votes -

Majority is 5

Rev - Stessier
Trigg - Lassr
Kraeggor - Lassr
Newc - Lassr
Sean - Lassr
Rev - WD stessier
Rev - Vote Lassr

Lassr (5) - Trigg, Kraeggor, Newcastle, Sean, Rev

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:31 pm

And we have a lynch!

/waves at Lassr being led to the execution platform.

"By lassr!"

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:36 pm

Hey kraaeggor, am curious did unagi share his little plan to get us out of this pickle? Might want to reply quicker than not, in case you are tonights victim.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:43 pm

Kill stessier was his last request.

He was willing to give Rev a pass. I am not.