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malchior wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:45 am *Sigh*

https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status ... 6912770049

Unagi wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:49 am

malchior wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:45 am *Sigh*

https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status ... 6912770049

LOL - no, why on earth would he suspend his campaign.... That would be weak and stupid. AS IF Trump would do that. LOL

malchior wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:08 am To pull on this thread a little, my back of envelope calculations are that the media will spend a good part of today focused on Trump's circle. That cycle will burn out very much unlike coronavirus unless more people in Trump's circle test positive. That'll keep it focused there. At some point, Joe's team is going to get pressed to talk about their plan for how the next two weeks are going to go with calls to suspend out of fairness and questions about whether he'll quarantine since he has been exposed. They have time to prepare an answer but there are likely intense meetings happening *right now* about how to respond to this crisis.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 10:14 am Also seems like a no-brainer to have Biden quarantine (and maybe Harris, if she's been in close contact with anyone on the team who was present), both as a show of protocols and (more importantly) to minimize risk of spreading.

The messaging doesn't seem all that hard. Express sympathy (already done), note safety protocols being taken on his side, but note that it's important with the election a month away to get the message out. I'm sure there'll be some minor tut-tutting from some talking heads, but I really doubt that will matter. In 2008 when the financial crisis hit hard in the fall McCain made a show of rushing back to Washington and called for postponing their debate while they dealt with the crisis; Obama ignored that, the debate went ahead, and Obama didn't seem to pay any price for that.

The other key priority is gaming out between strategists and lawyers how to respond to various scenarios for how this plays out - what if Trump dies or is incapacitated, what if Biden dies or is incapacitated, etc.

malchior wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:45 am *Sigh*

https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status ... 6912770049

Alefroth wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:24 pm

malchior wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 8:45 am *Sigh*

https://twitter.com/greenfield64/status ... 6912770049

What's to suspend? I thought he just spent his days in the basement.

Grifman wrote:“He’s f***ed, we’re f***ed”.

https://twitter.com/andrewfeinberg/stat ... 42304?s=21

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:24 pm https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1312146075113807872

Smoove_B wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:31 pm

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:24 pm https://twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/1312146075113807872

He's going all positive? Like Trump and his closest advisors?

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:36 pm
But in actuality, the Trump campaign is not removing their negative ads.

Grifman wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:19 am “There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America

And it has left them wondering how to wage a strong closing campaign when the judgment, actions and competence of its leaders were so squarely at issue just as voting is getting underway across the country.

“There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America. “Candidates are being forced to defend themselves every day on whether they agree with this or that, in terms of what the president did on the virus.”

Kraken wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 am As long as we're sharing anecdotes, yesterday I drew my first Facebook troll. I don't usually make blatantly political posts on FB because it's such a lousy forum for any real discussion, but in the course of something else I said that Clinton had taken MA by 27 points in 2014, and because Biden's more popular than Hillary was, I guarantee he'll carry MA by at least 30 points. This woman I don't know argued that trump's going to win in a landslide...including in MA! I didn't engage with her except for a laughing emoticon.

I thought it was interesting that she found my political post in an otherwise not-political thread. She might have been a bot, although her profile looked at least superficially legit. I was amused, anyway.

Defiant wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:46 am

Kraken wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 am As long as we're sharing anecdotes, yesterday I drew my first Facebook troll. I don't usually make blatantly political posts on FB because it's such a lousy forum for any real discussion, but in the course of something else I said that Clinton had taken MA by 27 points in 2014, and because Biden's more popular than Hillary was, I guarantee he'll carry MA by at least 30 points. This woman I don't know argued that trump's going to win in a landslide...including in MA! I didn't engage with her except for a laughing emoticon.

I thought it was interesting that she found my political post in an otherwise not-political thread. She might have been a bot, although her profile looked at least superficially legit. I was amused, anyway.

She could have been genuine - some people are just that ignorant/brainwashed.

Unagi wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:21 am

Grifman wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:19 am “There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America

Curious what "before this started", specifically, is in reference to here.

Kraken wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:53 am

Unagi wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:21 am

Grifman wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:19 am “There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America

Curious what "before this started", specifically, is in reference to here.

IDK what date that fellow has in mind, but the consensus seems to be that trump's last hopes died when his taxes were released last week, followed by his disastrous debate, and now his covid cluster. Let's hope he has really, really long coattails.

YellowKing wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:06 am Anecdotally, I've seen a quiet shift away from Trump among my friends and family. One that I would have normally thought unthinkable.

It started when I made three anti-Trump Facebook posts that I thought would draw a lot of ire, and instead I got likes from several people I thought for sure were firmly in the Trump camp. I only had one negative reaction, and that was from a guy I haven't talked to in over a decade.

Then I ended up in a political discussion with my dad, and while he didn't come right out and say he was voting for Biden, he strongly hinted at it.

It's hard to describe in words, but just little conversations I've had, etc. signify a shift. And while I know it's a tiny sample size, it's something real that I'm seeing in my circle.

Kraken wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:50 am

Defiant wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:46 am

Kraken wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:40 am As long as we're sharing anecdotes, yesterday I drew my first Facebook troll. I don't usually make blatantly political posts on FB because it's such a lousy forum for any real discussion, but in the course of something else I said that Clinton had taken MA by 27 points in 2014, and because Biden's more popular than Hillary was, I guarantee he'll carry MA by at least 30 points. This woman I don't know argued that trump's going to win in a landslide...including in MA! I didn't engage with her except for a laughing emoticon.

I thought it was interesting that she found my political post in an otherwise not-political thread. She might have been a bot, although her profile looked at least superficially legit. I was amused, anyway.

She could have been genuine - some people are just that ignorant/brainwashed.

Her home was listed as "Western Australia," so maybe she's ignorant of the finer points of US politics...or didn't know that MA is Massachusetts. The odds that trump could win MA are possibly 0.001%.

President Trump doesn’t want Africans flooding into his country. But let’s be honest. Who really does? Certainly not any other world leader of this era. Trump just happens to be the one bold or uncaring enough to say the quiet part out loud. He’s the rare white politician sparing us the trouble of deciphering what he might think. And Nigerians love him for it.
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The data has been consistent for the past three years, and the most recent survey, published by the Pew Research Center in January, shows that almost 6 in 10 Nigerians believe that Trump will “do the right thing regarding world affairs.”

Grifman wrote:“There was a panic before this started, but now we’re sort of the stupid party,” said Edward J. Rollins, co-chairman of the pro-Trump super PAC Great America

Defiant wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:40 am If this is really how he feels (as opposed to trying to say something meant to appeal to the voters), after years of being in the Obama administration and after years of the Trump administration, then I suspect we may just get a repeat of the Obama years.