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WYBaugh wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:49 pm https://imgur.com/gallery/oklahoma-cont ... te-d7tWr3R

OK State Superintendent of Education warns teachers must teach the Bible or lose their license. He’s also mandating all classrooms have a Bible. He’s confident that the Supreme Court will ultimately uphold his decision because of Trump’s appointed judges.

I'm sure the Satanic Temple is already on it.

The guy spent 1.7 million dollars of money earmarked for education in the department he was running on power tools and kitchen appliances. You have to admire that amount of chutzpah.

“Fuck the children, I want a diamond encrusted juicer!”

I'd be delighted to teach the Bible in a classroom. I think students have a lot to learn about it.

Especially the church-going kids.

Make sure you bring in guest speaker who has studied the Bible from a religious/linguistic standpoint. He can fill everyone in on the little nuances of meaning that are often lost on modern readers (like how often the words all translated as 'God' - and there are bunch - are either plural ("we") or feminine.)

Or maybe a Bible scholar who has studied the councils that determined which books got to be in the official copy - a bunch of rich guys deciding which of 'words of God' should be tossed. Those included inconvenient things like Judas being exonerated, or women being priests.

CNN

Interfaith Alliance, a national organization that seeks to protect religious freedoms, told CNN in a statement Thursday: “This is blatant religious coercion that should have absolutely no place in public schools – in Oklahoma or any other state.”
...
The new memo comes after the Oklahoma Supreme Court blocked an effort to establish the first publicly funded religious charter school in the country. The court on Tuesday ordered the state to rescind its contract with St. Isidore of Seville Catholic Virtual School in a 6-2 decision with one recusal.

“Under Oklahoma law, a charter school is a public school,” wrote Justice James R. Winchester for the court. “As such, a charter school must be nonsectarian. However, St. Isidore will evangelize the Catholic faith as part of its school curriculum while sponsored by the State.”

It sounds like just a joke - but that's seriously (seriously) sound advice.

hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:51 pm The guy spent 1.7 million dollars of money earmarked for education in the department he was running on power tools and kitchen appliances.

Hey, Cornballer machines don't just buy themselves!

Trying to do my diligence for primaries. What a pain. And it's more necessary than ever when my hands are tied for the general. In my decade or more of taking the primaries seriously this one seems to have the most competition going on and it's for a midterm. Though it is for a midterm when we lose a sitting senator.

Edit: wow lots of work on this. And it's hard to find information. I basically had to not choose people because they are running and have nothing outside of social media pages. And then there's the proposals. Vague much. The best I can find on prop A

Ballot title

The ballot title for Proposition A is as follows:
“

Shall the Wayne County Charter Section 3.119 (e) be amended in part to allow the County’s independent external auditor, selected by competitive bid, to serve for a term of three years or more?

Wayne County Proposition A is on the ballot as a referral in Wayne County on August 6, 2024.

A "yes" vote supports allowing the county's independent external auditor to serve for a term of three years or more.

A "no" vote opposes allowing the county's independent external auditor to serve for a term of three years or more.

Edit: And done! Today I will drop off my first ever absentee ballot.

Maybe this is more "death of the 4th estate" territory but...

WYBaugh wrote: ↑Sun Jun 30, 2024 1:49 pm https://imgur.com/gallery/oklahoma-cont ... te-d7tWr3R

OK State Superintendent of Education warns teachers must teach the Bible or lose their license. He’s also mandating all classrooms have a Bible. He’s confident that the Supreme Court will ultimately uphold his decision because of Trump’s appointed judges.

The exodus of qualified teachers will further the spiral.

The thing is, they'll still get to benefit from all the heathens using science to make iPhones and airplanes and the webservers that stream them porn.

Seems like we ought to be hearing within a couple of weeks who Trump's VP pick is. If he picks one. Does he have to? It would be unconventional, but is it required? I assume if a VP isn't elected, the House Speaker becomes VP on inauguration day.

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:40 pm Seems like we ought to be hearing within a couple of weeks who Trump's VP pick is. If he picks one. Does he have to? It would be unconventional, but is it required? I assume if a VP isn't elected, the House Speaker becomes VP on inauguration day.

No way he's doing anything until Biden is officially in or out. And yeah, it wouldn't at all surprise me if he somehow doesn't name one after being nominated and that's fine. Because really, have you ever heard of a Vice King?

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:05 pm Because really, have you ever heard of a Vice King?

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:05 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:40 pm Seems like we ought to be hearing within a couple of weeks who Trump's VP pick is. If he picks one. Does he have to? It would be unconventional, but is it required? I assume if a VP isn't elected, the House Speaker becomes VP on inauguration day.

No way he's doing anything until Biden is officially in or out. And yeah, it wouldn't at all surprise me if he somehow doesn't name one after being nominated and that's fine. Because really, have you ever heard of a Vice King?

I believe that's called the "Crown Prince". And I can totally see his lackeys (court?) pleading with him not to name Don Jr. his running mate.

What other choice do they have? Eric???

Everyone's favorite liar denies knowing about Project 2025:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-tr ... im-abysmal

But Trump posted on his platform, “I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”

Now that it's getting out to the public (finally) he gives them the stand back and stand by treatment

He knows nothing about The Heritage Foundation or Federalist Society whispering in his ears for the past 8 years. It's a total coincidence with nomenclature of Project 47 and that he put in 3 Federalist Society Supreme Court justices (as well as throughout the courts everywhere) and that Eastman was the head of his legal team for a while. DeVos, Prince, Pruitt, and Mulvany. Never heard of them. Meese? Presidential Medal of Freedom? Everybody gets one of those. I mean, look, he gave one to Nunes and Jordan. You can't expect him to know everyone he gives every little medal out to or why.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 3:05 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 2:40 pm Seems like we ought to be hearing within a couple of weeks who Trump's VP pick is. If he picks one. Does he have to? It would be unconventional, but is it required? I assume if a VP isn't elected, the House Speaker becomes VP on inauguration day.

No way he's doing anything until Biden is officially in or out. And yeah, it wouldn't at all surprise me if he somehow doesn't name one after being nominated and that's fine. Because really, have you ever heard of a Vice King?

I think he'd be more likely to have a Hand of the King position.

"If it wasn't for the North, the American revolution would have been bloodless!"

Hilarious.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/07/13 ... p-election

Trump rushed off stage after he was apparently injured during a speech in Pennsylvania.

The video makes it sound like there were shots in the background. Breaking story.

Not pay walled source

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-r ... =111913361

Not friggen good

He was bleeding from his ear and pumping his fist as he was rushed off stage.

From the video I can't tell what those noises were. They didn't sound like gun shots to me.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:38 pm They didn't sound like gun shots to me.

Gun shots seldom sound like gun shots on video.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 13, 2024 6:38 pm

From the video I can't tell what those noises were. They didn't sound like gun shots to me.

Gun shots rarely sound like they do in movies and tv, I've learned. I've been in the middle of two shootings in my life and neither time did I realize what was actually happening until afterwards. The first time I thought someone threw a bottle at my car. The second time they drove right by me firing at each other from their vehicles and all I could think was "that sounds like firecrackers".

In honor of kraken's fonboism

https://secure.everyaction.com/Ivk1lz7fSUa00LrDXvzxOA2

Heather Cox Richardson Talks Project 2025

National

Monday, July 15, 2024 7:00 PM - 8:00 PM ET

I'm thinking Nikki Haley VP, not that she's my favorite.

Vance seems the favorite to me. He has professed bland loyalty and has a gateway to the likes of Thiel.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:09 pm Vance seems the favorite to me.

You win. I guess we've had enough surprises lately.

Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:15 pm Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

I assume that Trump was picking primarily based on loyalty - who would have done the "right thing" on January 6th. Vance has excelled as a crazy loyalist within a party of crazy loyalists.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:15 pm Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

Ohio is not a deep red state but he got the seat, even with all of TFG's insanity. The people who need to like him like him enough and he is a trumpublican through and through who will tell every lie he needs to tell to secure whatever power he can get.

Now is he really a loyalist to TFG or to the Billionaire class, that is a question TFG has to figure out the answer to.

Ohio is pretty much a red state these days. There are some enclaves of blue in college towns, but for the most part, a short drive through any part of the state will result in numerous MAGA hats and flags.

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:23 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:15 pm Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

I assume that Trump was picking primarily based on loyalty - who would have done the "right thing" on January 6th. Vance has excelled as a crazy loyalist within a party of crazy loyalists.

On the plus side: no sequel to Hillbilly Elegy in the foreseeable future!

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:15 pm Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

He's basically turned into Rust Belt Ted Cruz. It's so embarrassing.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 3:15 pm Man, what a strategically stupid choice. Nobody likes Vance. Talk about picking someone with absolutely zero national appeal outside of the base...

He is completely and reliably unscrupulous, though. His main job will be to do what Pence wouldn't do when 2028 rolls around.

Plus, if Trump does have to leave office for some reason, the pardons will be instantaneous.

What makes you think they’ll be an election in 2028…

waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2024 5:32 pm What makes you think they’ll be an election in 2028…

Russia still has elections.

True but I’m sure the GOP or an illegally appointed special counsel will be picking the Democrat party candidates you know because only they can be trusted with such a task. Just like Iran even though we’ll never be as evil as them.

Read a bit about Vance's biography and its pretty interesting. Was kind amazed at his connection to Thiel. Also was surprising to see that he had graduated from Yale law school. Was also interesting to read up on Vance's wife and her links to the Right wing movement in that she clerked for Brett Kavanaugh and is also a Yale law school alum. Altogether, Vance has a pretty good biography, and seems to have the intellectual firepower. I think for Trump its a great pick. He has a trained debater to take on the Pit bull role of the VP nominee. Vance is a military man, brings a serious jolt of energy to his ticket youth wise, neo-conservative, absolutely Trump loyalist, an Ohioan [ so in theory Ohio more likely to swing Trump's way, but as some of you noted its been trending red of late]. So altogether pretty decent pick in my eyes. I would greatly argue that Vance is inexperienced, but when has that stopped anything in this day and ages. Also, do you really need experience when wielding a sledgehammer to take down the "deep state"?

Imagine a world with a VP whos first name is a pair of letters.

It's not all that big a deal, of course - but it adds more depth to the curry.