Octopus Overlords

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:51 pm I watched a video of Fabiano Caruana playing chess against a Tesla Model 3 (he won), but I don't see any chess program on my Model 3. What gives?

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm Sweet, the one game I am interested in.

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:57 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm Sweet, the one game I am interested in.

TeslaFi tells me about 5% of the fleet has it so far. Generally it seems like they hit somewhere in this range, wait a couplefew days, then open the fire hose. Hopefully by this coming weekend we'll both be current.

coopasonic wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:41 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:57 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm Sweet, the one game I am interested in.

TeslaFi tells me about 5% of the fleet has it so far. Generally it seems like they hit somewhere in this range, wait a couplefew days, then open the fire hose. Hopefully by this coming weekend we'll both be current.

FYI, I got the update update about 4 hours after that post. I still haven't tried out chess though, as much fun as sitting around in my car may be.

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 pm

coopasonic wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:41 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:57 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm Sweet, the one game I am interested in.

TeslaFi tells me about 5% of the fleet has it so far. Generally it seems like they hit somewhere in this range, wait a couplefew days, then open the fire hose. Hopefully by this coming weekend we'll both be current.

FYI, I got the update update about 4 hours after that post. I still haven't tried out chess though, as much fun as sitting around in my car may be.

Just make sure you put it in Dog Mode.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 5:01 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:44 pm

coopasonic wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:41 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:57 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:55 pm Sweet, the one game I am interested in.

TeslaFi tells me about 5% of the fleet has it so far. Generally it seems like they hit somewhere in this range, wait a couplefew days, then open the fire hose. Hopefully by this coming weekend we'll both be current.

FYI, I got the update update about 4 hours after that post. I still haven't tried out chess though, as much fun as sitting around in my car may be.

Just make sure you put it in Dog Mode.

Make sure you get the update first.

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:46 pm I still haven't gotten the update. Where does the chess game show up, next to the arcade games?

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:51 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:46 pm I still haven't gotten the update. Where does the chess game show up, next to the arcade games?

Yes. I may have asked already, but do you have your update preference set to Advanced (ie early), and do you park with the car on wifi? TeslaFi says about 40% of the fleet is on 2019.28.somethingorother.

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:51 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:46 pm I still haven't gotten the update. Where does the chess game show up, next to the arcade games?

Yes. I may have asked already, but do you have your update preference set to Advanced (ie early), and do you park with the car on wifi?

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:08 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:51 pm

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:46 pm I still haven't gotten the update. Where does the chess game show up, next to the arcade games?

Yes. I may have asked already, but do you have your update preference set to Advanced (ie early), and do you park with the car on wifi?

Done and done. Had to find my wifi password (fucking POS)

Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:08 pm Had to find my wifi password (fucking POS)

Walmart Inc on Tuesday sued Tesla Inc, accusing it of “widespread negligence” that led to repeated fires of its solar systems and asking a court to force Tesla to remove solar panels from more than 240 of its U.S. stores.

Solar energy systems installed and maintained by the electric car maker were responsible for fires at seven locations, with dozens showing hazardous problems such as loose wiring and “hot spots” on panels, according to court papers filed in New York State Supreme Court.

Tesla did not respond to a request for comment.

The lawsuit accuses Tesla of having untrained workers putting up shoddy installations and showing “utter incompetence or callousness, or both,” court papers said.

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In the lawsuit, Walmart accused SolarCity of having “an ill-considered business model that required it to install solar panel systems haphazardly and as quickly as possible in order to turn a profit, and the contractors and subcontractors who performed the original installation work had not been properly hired, trained, and supervised.”

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In July, Walmart gave Tesla 30 days to provide analyses of the root causes of the fires, compensate the retailer for damages to its stores and demonstrate an overhaul of its operations, among other measures. As of Aug. 15, Tesla “still had not taken any reasonable steps toward curing its breaches,” the lawsuit said.

Jaymann wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:00 pm FINALLY got the update with the chess app. I mated the fucker in 24 moves.

Zaxxon wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:33 pm A bit from Tesla's side: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef ... afnJj1Og==

morlac wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:41 pm What positive light does Walmart need to put themselves in? I don't see where they have blame?

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:07 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:33 pm A bit from Tesla's side: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef ... afnJj1Og==

And more, preceding the above link: https://www.wholemars.com/TeslaResponse ... kbucy8luRM

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:56 pm

morlac wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 2:41 pm What positive light does Walmart need to put themselves in? I don't see where they have blame?

You've read the two links from Tesla's side above? Walmart is subject to contractual agreements here, as well. Indefinitely disabling 200+ sites because of concerns with a few, while stonewalling the investigation on those few, is not something they're contractually able to do indefinitely. Nor is removing all of the panels everywhere due to issues with a few. And they certainly have financial incentive to do that if they can paint Tesla as incompetent--they'd get out of PV rates 5-10 years old and be free to re-engage at current rates, perhaps with First Solar, partially owned by the Waltons. That's maybe a bit too conspiracy-theory, but they absolutely have financial incentive to drag Tesla through the mud on this. If their chief concern was returning the systems to powered-up status, one would think they'd have engaged with Tesla on the mutually-agreed processes to clear the sites and get them running again.

We'll see how it goes, but even putting my positive Tesla feelings aside, Walmart does not get to be taken at face value here, either. For example, Walmart sites are a small minority of Tesla/SolarCity's installed base. If this is a widespread issue of incompetence, where are the non-Walmart fires?

Amazon says Tesla solar panels on the roof of one of its warehouses sparked a fire in 2018, adding to the scrutiny of the company's green energy unit following Walmart's damning suit filed last week.

The e-commerce giant told Bloomberg in an emailed statement Friday that an energy system at its Redlands, California warehouse, east of Los Angeles, in June 2018.

In the summer of 2018, Tesla initiated a massive undertaking — a stealth replacement of solar-panel parts across the US. It was called Project Titan, Business Insider has learned.

The faulty parts in question were connectors — Amphenol H4 connectors — and SolarEdge optimizers. These parts are supposed to regulate the flow of energy and heat to a solar panel, ensuring that as much power goes through the part as possible without overheating. Overheating can lead to a fire.

"A portion of SolarCity-installed modules and optimizers from various manufacturers were made with H4 connectors from Amphenol, a part that was commonly used across the industry at the time," a Tesla representative told Business Insider.

Jaymann wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:29 pm So what would happen if you use autopilot to have your car pick you up (say in a restaurant parking lot) and it mows down a pedestrian on the way?

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:12 pm Buu my question is this. Could someone slowly "nudge" (without actual contact) the car to the shoulder where it would presumably stop? Would lane warnings wake up the driver before it even got that far?

Jaymann wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:29 pm So what would happen if you use autopilot to have your car pick you up (say in a restaurant parking lot) and it mows down a pedestrian on the way?

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:30 pmResting a hand on the bottom won't do it.

Paingod wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:03 am

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:30 pmResting a hand on the bottom won't do it.

With all of this being software-driven, what are the options for a hack or override that someone could kit in themselves? I've heard of people modding their Tesla's software before...