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hitbyambulance wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:27 pm my mother is 68 years old, a liver-transplant recipient and on immunosuppresants. what extra precautions should she take (other than 'never leave the house')?

Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:55 pm

Lorini wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:50 pm A friend who is a pediatrician believes that corona has been around a lot longer (even here in the states) than realized.

Kasey Chang wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:
But there are a bunch of Coronaviruses we knew about. That's just a generic code for something not immediately classified. Right?

Yes

Daehawk wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:32 pm One of my friend's friend invested $7k in a company thats working on a vaccine and has made $200k

Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2020 7:02 pm

Kasey Chang wrote:
But there are a bunch of Coronaviruses we knew about. That's just a generic code for something not immediately classified. Right?

Yes

Diagnosis code B34.2, Coronavirus infection, unspecified, would in generally not be appropriate
for the COVID-19, because the cases have universally been respiratory in nature, so the site would not
be “unspecified.”

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am The thing is I don’t know that the care here is going to be better. Sure if you have health insurance that’s great. But what happens when it hits the homeless population and poor people ? It’s going to be insane. There’s 151,000 homeless people in California alone and they have no place to quarantine. That’s when it will be a pandemic.

The American Physical Society (APS) March Meeting, the world’s largest annual gathering of physicists, has been canceled due to concerns over the rapid spread of COVID-19, the respiratory illness caused by the coronavirus. The announcement of the decision to call off the conference in Denver came at 8:00pm MST on 29 February, just 36 hours before the first scientific sessions were scheduled to start on 2 March. The meeting typically draws about 10 000 attendees from multiple continents.

In a Sunday-afternoon press conference, APS chief executive officer Kate Kirby and deputy executive officer and chief operating officer James Taylor said they did not take the decision lightly. They based it on the changing information coming from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Johns Hopkins University, and other relevant websites they had been monitoring, as well as “an abundance of caution that we would not be the cause of spreading this disease further,” Kirby said. She pointed specifically to the CDC’s new warnings about travel to South Korea and Italy, countries from which “a number of” registrants were expected to embark to Denver.

The APS leaders shared factors that they said made the call particularly difficult. For example, Taylor said that the CDC’s advice regarding conferences is more geared toward events with mostly domestic attendees; however, about 30% of March Meeting attendees come from abroad. And a call on Saturday to Colorado’s Department of Public Health and Environment for guidance from an epidemiologist went unreturned, Kirby said.

In the weeks leading up to the meeting, at least 500 registrants had canceled from China alone, Kirby said. Another roughly 300 attendees from both the US and abroad backed out last week. Those cancellations and the resulting changes to the program meant that the meeting would not have been “as vibrant” as in past years, Kirby said, which contributed to the decision.

Biological Physics (DBIO): With over 2,000 members,[11] the division is the second largest learned society in the world devoted to biological physics, following the Biophysical Society. The objective of the division is the advancement and dissemination of knowledge on the broad interface of physics and biology. This includes studying biological phenomena with physics tools and identifying new physics questions within biological contexts. The division supports a program of over 600 (as of 2016) presentations at the annual March Meeting of the APS, on topics ranging from protein biophysics, to neuroscience and evolution. It promotes research and development of biological physics, enhanced the standing of the field, and recognizes important contributions to the field, such as by awarding the Max Delbruck Prize in biological physics.[12]

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am The thing is I don’t know that the care here is going to be better. Sure if you have health insurance that’s great. But what happens when it hits the homeless population and poor people ? It’s going to be insane. There’s 151,000 homeless people in California alone and they have no place to quarantine. That’s when it will be a pandemic.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:29 am

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am The thing is I don’t know that the care here is going to be better. Sure if you have health insurance that’s great. But what happens when it hits the homeless population and poor people ? It’s going to be insane. There’s 151,000 homeless people in California alone and they have no place to quarantine. That’s when it will be a pandemic.

The homeless will be rounded up and given homes. In some camp in the desert.

No one cares about them now, why would they when they're out of sight, out of mind, and being given food and shelter?

Paingod wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:25 am Super excited to hear that a dude in NH who was a known carrier decided to ignore the "Isolate yourself" memo and went to an event where he infected others. That puts it just one state away from us.

I know travel makes this easy to spread rapidly, but I was hoping it might take longer to hit New England. WTF is wrong with people? Dude knew he had it.

Federal health officials planned to drop off some cruise ship passengers at a shopping mall after their release from a two-week quarantine at a Texas air base, one of several reasons the city of San Antonio declared a public health emergency over the new coronavirus, a city spokeswoman said Tuesday.

Kasey Chang wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:17 pm Iran seems to be getting the newest cases... 523 in a day, bringing total to 1501... 50% growth is a panic-inducing number.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:29 am The homeless will be rounded up and given homes. In some camp in the desert.

No one cares about them now, why would they when they're out of sight, out of mind, and being given food and shelter?

Sudy wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:40 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:29 am The homeless will be rounded up and given homes. In some camp in the desert.

No one cares about them now, why would they when they're out of sight, out of mind, and being given food and shelter?

Lol... obviously if we had the resources to feed and house the homeless we would have done it long before now.

In fact, in the four days since Colorado announced the expanded testing capability, the state lab said they have only performed 23 tests. The number represents less than 4% of capacity.[/QUOTE ]

https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/ne ... b7697fb3de

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Paingod wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:28 pm

Kasey Chang wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:17 pm Iran seems to be getting the newest cases... 523 in a day, bringing total to 1501... 50% growth is a panic-inducing number.

They're not handling things well. Burning down a hospital is counter-productive in a time like this. I expect to see Iran spiral out of control if that's the common response to it.

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am The thing is I don’t know that the care here is going to be better. Sure if you have health insurance that’s great. But what happens when it hits the homeless population and poor people ? It’s going to be insane. There’s 151,000 homeless people in California alone and they have no place to quarantine. That’s when it will be a pandemic.

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:00 pm

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:26 am The thing is I don’t know that the care here is going to be better. Sure if you have health insurance that’s great. But what happens when it hits the homeless population and poor people ? It’s going to be insane. There’s 151,000 homeless people in California alone and they have no place to quarantine. That’s when it will be a pandemic.

The homeless are equally exposed to the flu, yet how much damage does the flu do to the homeless population? I expect this virus to be the same with them. So far, from what I read, there are certain health problems that make people more vulnerable. Homeless people in general won't necessarily always have these health problems.

For the general population, the flu represents a serious health concern. But for the homeless — who deal with higher rates of chronic illness, fewer resources and crowded conditions in shelters — catching the flu can be a matter of life or death.

Enough wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:21 pm The states are just getting started with testing this week and next, so one wonders if we will soon see a massive spike in confirmed cases.

In fact, in the four days since Colorado announced the expanded testing capability, the state lab said they have only performed 23 tests. The number represents less than 4% of capacity.[/QUOTE ]

https://www.9news.com/mobile/article/ne ... b7697fb3de

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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:25 pmThe flu is far worse for the homeless. The homeless population has an increased incidence of exacerbating health problems and they are more likely to go untreated.


Easy version:

For the general population, the flu represents a serious health concern. But for the homeless — who deal with higher rates of chronic illness, fewer resources and crowded conditions in shelters — catching the flu can be a matter of life or death.

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:20 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:25 pmThe flu is far worse for the homeless. The homeless population has an increased incidence of exacerbating health problems and they are more likely to go untreated.


Easy version:

For the general population, the flu represents a serious health concern. But for the homeless — who deal with higher rates of chronic illness, fewer resources and crowded conditions in shelters — catching the flu can be a matter of life or death.

I'm not saying they have it good, I was saying that where a specific type of virus is concerned, this corona virus, we already can estimate how it's going to affect them because it'll be about the same as the flu. I'm not saying they don't have health problems, I'm saying it remains to be seen if the types of health problems they have will make this virus more deadly to them.

Lorini wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:53 pm

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 5:20 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 3:25 pmThe flu is far worse for the homeless. The homeless population has an increased incidence of exacerbating health problems and they are more likely to go untreated.


Easy version:

For the general population, the flu represents a serious health concern. But for the homeless — who deal with higher rates of chronic illness, fewer resources and crowded conditions in shelters — catching the flu can be a matter of life or death.

I'm not saying they have it good, I was saying that where a specific type of virus is concerned, this corona virus, we already can estimate how it's going to affect them because it'll be about the same as the flu. I'm not saying they don't have health problems, I'm saying it remains to be seen if the types of health problems they have will make this virus more deadly to them.

We already know that deaths attributed to the seasonal flu are about.1%. So far deaths attributed to the coronavirus are at 3.4%. So why do you think it'll be the same?

gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:26 pm Six new cases in Los Angeles county now. As far as 3% vs 1%, that 3 number is based on what we know, which is not a lot. Plus, it's heavily biased to China's patients. And it seems heavily biased towards elderly patients.

This is why I keep pointing out that we don't have large scale deaths happening in countries more like the US. It is entirely possible that when this is over and done, the US number will be less than 1%. Believe me, I would be singing a different tune if we had a few hundred dead of this by now.

We were talking about the homeless, has anyone considered that this virus might have been spreading through various communities, including homeless communities, for a while? It's not like we are testing everyone. I could be infected right now and not even know it.

Archinerd wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:28 pm Fuck it, I can't take it anymore. I'm touching my face.