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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 8:29 pm
by Max Peck
ImLawBoy wrote:Didn't he make a big deal of being an Executive Producer on the new show? And he's now disparaging it?
Arnie took the opportunity to demonstrate how to act presidential. :)
...and I'm sure that you want to hear me read Lincoln's speeches in my Austrian accent... :clap:

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:31 pm
by Alefroth
gilraen wrote:
malchior wrote:[
Captain Caveman wrote:I know this isn't a secret or anything, but this guy truly is pathological.
Exactly - we've elected someone who is likely mentally ill. There is no other way to describe it at this point.
3 Professors of Psychiatry write to Obama, request full psychiatric evaluation of the PEOTUS
It brings up an interesting question. Can a president ever be required to undergo a psychiatric evaluation? There must be guidelines for medical conditions rendering a president unit for office. I wonder if there are any for psychiatric conditions.

Looks like it's covered by the 25th Amendment.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 9:37 pm
by Max Peck
The Internet Archive presents the Trump Archive
The Trump Archive launches today with 700+ televised speeches, interviews, debates, and other news broadcasts related to President-elect Donald Trump, created using the Internet Archive’s TV News Archive.

A work in progress, the growing collection now includes more than 520 hours of Trump video. The earliest excerpt dates from December 2009, and the collection continues through the present. It includes more than 500 video statements fact checked by FactCheck.org, PolitiFact, and The Washington Post’s Fact Checker covering such controversial topics as immigration, Trump’s tax returns, Hillary Clinton’s emails, and health care.
You might want to bookmark this, for those times when you want to cross-reference what he said against what he says he said. :)

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:42 am
by Isgrimnur
Scorched Earth at the State Dept:
With two weeks until Inauguration Day, President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team has issued an unusual order in the history of US foreign service: a blanket mandate that all politically appointed US ambassadors step down by Jan. 20, with no exceptions, as several US diplomats told The New York Times and Politico.

While being told to pack their bags at the end of an administration is par for the course, the lack of a grace period, or case-by-case exceptions, could prove worrisome, diplomacy experts say, if it left top US embassies without ambassadors for months.
I'm sure he has a full slate of replacements already lined up and vetted.
Mr. Trump has so far chosen lawyer David Friedman as his ambassador to Israel, a pick some have criticized for his doubts about a two-state solution, and Iowa governor Terry Branstad, who has a longstanding friendship with Chinese President Xi Jinping, as his pick for China. Neither nominee has diplomatic experience.
...
A chargé d’affaires, a role usually held by a designated senior career foreign service officer, will maintain the functions of the embassy while the nominated ambassador goes through Senate confirmation. But this arrangement is not ideal, Henrikson says.

“A charge-d'affair, they're usually not in the position to do anything other than to maintain continuity,” Henrikson says. “That is to say, they're very unlikely to be given themselves, individually, any kind of instructions to negotiate something new. They really want just to maintain, I wouldn't say the status-quo necessarily, but to maintain things progressing as they have been.”

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:14 am
by Holman
Trump is doing transition of power as a hostile takeover.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:25 am
by Rip
The incoming Obama administration has notified all politically-appointed ambassadors that they must vacate their posts as of Jan. 20, the day President-elect Barack Obama takes the oath of office, a State Department official said.

The clean slate will open up prime opportunities for the president-elect to reward political supporters with posts in London, Paris, Tokyo and the like. The notice to diplomatic posts was issued this week.
Political ambassadors sometimes are permitted to stay on briefly during a new administration, but the sweeping nature of the directive suggests that Obama has little interest in retaining any of Bush's ambassadorial appointees.

Most ambassadors, of course, are foreign service officers, but often the posts involving the most important bilateral relations (such as with Great Britain, Japan and India) or desirable locales (such as the Bahamas) are given to close friends and well-heeled contributors of the president.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/200 ... assad.html

:ninja:

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:53 am
by Max Peck
Holman wrote:Trump is doing transition of power as a hostile takeover.
You can't make an омлет without breaking some eggs.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:06 am
by Holman
Of much more concern are the ideological purges he seems to be setting up administration-wide.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:28 am
by $iljanus
Holman wrote:Of much more concern are the ideological purges he seems to be setting up administration-wide.
Exterminate the xenos! Purge the heretics!

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:34 pm
by Max Peck
So much pwnage... :pop:

(And seriously, why does it take him so long to push out each individual tweet in a multipart message?)

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 1:56 pm
by Skinypupy
"Stupid"

I love how he puts quotations are ransom words to somehow make them more impactful. I used to do the same thing on my high school term papers and got called out on it by my teacher way back then.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:27 pm
by Chaz
Skinypupy wrote:"Stupid"

I love how he puts quotations are ransom words to somehow make them more impactful. I used to do the same thing on my high school term papers and got called out on it by my teacher way back then.
Sure you did, there's a certain expectation when you're writing at that grade level. He's operating at a fourth grade verbal level, so that kind of thing is more acceptable. He just doesn't "know" any better.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:45 pm
by Kraken
Max Peck wrote:
(And seriously, why does it take him so long to push out each individual tweet in a multipart message?)
Short fingers.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:29 pm
by Alefroth
Only stupid "people", or fools, think they are having a good relationship with Putin.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 3:56 pm
by tgb
"Useful idiot"

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Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 6:54 pm
by Skinypupy
Skinypupy wrote:"Stupid"

I love how he puts quotations are ransom words to somehow make them more impactful. I used to do the same thing on my high school term papers and got called out on it by my teacher way back then.
And, of course, that post was supposed to say "on random words" and not "are ransom words".

"Stupid" phone.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:03 pm
by Isgrimnur
Rip wrote:
The incoming Obama administration has notified all politically-appointed ambassadors that they must vacate their posts as of Jan. 20, the day President-elect Barack Obama takes the oath of office, a State Department official said.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/200 ... assad.html

:ninja:
All right, you got me on that one. And it's apparently standard:
In keeping with standard practices, the White House requested and received resignations from all politically-appointed chiefs of mission shortly after Election Day, several senior State Department officials told CNN.
...
But, in a break with precedent to consider grace periods on a case-by-case basis, a subsequent State Department cable sent last month to all non-career ambassadors instructed them to finish their service by January 20 "without exceptions," the sources said.
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Past incoming administrations from both parties have granted exceptions on a case-by-case basis for ambassadors requesting to remain at post for weeks or months.

The exceptions are generally granted as a courtesy to ambassadors with school-age children or who have unique family situations, but are also occasionally made to help with continuity as the incoming administration seeks to fill a large number of postings at home and overseas.
...
In 2009, Obama granted several exceptions to Bush-era political ambassadors for work or personal reasons.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:42 pm
by Smoove_B
What's new will be going on Twitter and calling the former ambassadors losers.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:59 pm
by hepcat
I can't wait for the first time he shows up to a state dinner in an open robe and asks the wife of a Chinese leader if she'll love him long time.

All bets are off when you elect a mentally unstable idiot, America. Good job!

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:06 pm
by Isgrimnur
CNN
A top Russian lawmaker accused the Obama administration Saturday of undermining US democracy, saying Republicans had more trust in Russian President Vladimir Putin than in the Democrats.

Alexey Pushkov's assertions in a series of tweets come in the wake of a US intelligence report pinpointing Russia and its leader as the culprit behind the hacking in the US presidential election.
...
Pushkov, a Russian senator and former chairman of the parliamentary foreign relations committee, first tweeted early Saturday, "The Democratic process in the United States is undermined not by Russia, but by the Obama administration and the media which supported (Hillary) Clinton against (Donald) Trump. The threat to democracy is the United States."
...
Translated, like the others, from Russian, it read: "Obama dismayed: Republicans trust Putin more than the Democrats. This is the 'merit' of the Democrats and one of the results of Obama's presidency."

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:17 pm
by hepcat
If we give them Wyoming maybe they'll stop.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:21 pm
by Isgrimnur
Yup. Couldn't give them Michigan. Too many Wolverines.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:42 pm
by Holman
Isgrimnur wrote:Yup. Couldn't give them Michigan. Too many Wolverines.
Haven't you heard? In the Red Dawn re-remake the cool kids welcome the Russians with open arms. Charlie Sheen is the new youth commissar. Like Trump, he's Winning.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:18 pm
by Isgrimnur

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:30 pm
by Defiant

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:38 pm
by malchior

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:47 pm
by geezer

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:51 pm
by malchior
geezer wrote:
Trumpers are such assholes.
Seriously. When the NY Daily News is saying you're an asshole - you know you're a *YUGE* asshole.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:22 am
by Max Peck
Keepin' it classy, Orange O'Tang style... It's fine. It's all fine.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:57 am
by Chaz
Yes, that is how you demonstrate grovelling. When we used that same hand motion back in grade school to imply that someone was mentally challenged, we also were demonstrating grovelling. That is what that hand signal means.

Similarly, when I show you my middle finger held upright, I'm simply praising you for your wise policy decisions.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:13 am
by tgb
Kill me. Kill me now.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:16 am
by Skinypupy
In some ways, his strategy is succeeding. I am no longer surprised that the highest office in the US is using Twitter to toss out juvenile insults and/or lies whenever he is criticized. He's done it so often, that it barely even registers anymore. He has, in some ways, normalized the notion that arguably the most powerful person in the world should respond to any sort of criticism with either "NO U!" or "Neener Neener!".

That doesn't make it any less ridiculous or horrifying, but I can't bring myself to be outraged or surprised any more. He's a vindictive, immature, childish twit. We all know this (even Rip) because he proves it on a daily basis. The question is how the nation collectively moves forward, given the new reality that we are being led by a child.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:00 am
by Isgrimnur
Chaz wrote:Similarly, when I show you my middle finger held upright, I'm simply praising you for your wise policy decisions.
Image

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:13 pm
by malchior
Skinypupy wrote:In some ways, his strategy is succeeding. I am no longer surprised that the highest office in the US is using Twitter to toss out juvenile insults and/or lies whenever he is criticized. He's done it so often, that it barely even registers anymore. He has, in some ways, normalized the notion that arguably the most powerful person in the world should respond to any sort of criticism with either "NO U!" or "Neener Neener!".

That doesn't make it any less ridiculous or horrifying, but I can't bring myself to be outraged or surprised any more. He's a vindictive, immature, childish twit. We all know this (even Rip) because he proves it on a daily basis. The question is how the nation collectively moves forward, given the new reality that we are being led by a child.
I read a thoughtful opinion piece that talked about how government conduct vis-à-vis the Vietnam war killed trust in government. I'll solidly say that Trump's election will likely undermine our trust in the electorate. None of Trump's many character flaws were hidden from us and they still chose him. That can't be hand-waved away.

Clinton was a weak (I'd still call her terrible) candidate but still he is going to be the worst leader in the Western world post-WW2 by a long-shot. He is unstable. He is unqualified. He is corrupt and doesn't hide it. He has surrounded himself with other people unqualified and soon to be unvetted. This is a disaster for our country and people largely still don't get it yet. I don't know how we come back from this. How do we trust in "democracy" when the electorate is this moronic.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:22 pm
by Kurth
Skinypupy wrote:In some ways, his strategy is succeeding. I am no longer surprised that the highest office in the US is using Twitter to toss out juvenile insults and/or lies whenever he is criticized. He's done it so often, that it barely even registers anymore. He has, in some ways, normalized the notion that arguably the most powerful person in the world should respond to any sort of criticism with either "NO U!" or "Neener Neener!".

That doesn't make it any less ridiculous or horrifying, but I can't bring myself to be outraged or surprised any more. He's a vindictive, immature, childish twit. We all know this (even Rip) because he proves it on a daily basis. The question is how the nation collectively moves forward, given the new reality that we are being led by a child.
Yep. :coffee: :confusion-shrug: :sleeping-boring:

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 2:13 pm
by malchior
A taste of the incompetence ahead. This feels more like a purge than a transition. It isn't a transition if you leave key posts unfilled...because...who the fuck knows anymore.

Oh - and to preempt Rip but Obama did something nonsense:
But appointees in key positions—like the people who make sure our nukes work—are often asked to stay on in their roles until a replacement can be found and confirmed by the Senate, helping ensure a smooth transition and allowing our government to continue functioning. In fact, for the entirety of Obama’s first term and into part of his second, the NNSA Administrator remained a Bush appointee.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:00 pm
by Paingod
I like that article.
malchior's link wrote:“There are scores more appointees within the department,” our source told us. “Secretarial and administration appointments that don’t require Senate confirmation, mostly performing policy, liaison, and strategic advisory capacities in support of the agency they’re at. They serve at the will of the head of their agency. Those people are, theoretically, also out on inauguration day unless otherwise directed, which hasn’t happened yet to my knowledge.”

The source later added, “I’m more and more coming around to the idea that we’re so very very fucked.”

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:30 pm
by geezer
malchior wrote:A taste of the incompetence ahead. This feels more like a purge than a transition. It isn't a transition if you leave key posts unfilled...because...who the fuck knows anymore.

Oh - and to preempt Rip but Obama did something nonsense:
But appointees in key positions—like the people who make sure our nukes work—are often asked to stay on in their roles until a replacement can be found and confirmed by the Senate, helping ensure a smooth transition and allowing our government to continue functioning. In fact, for the entirety of Obama’s first term and into part of his second, the NNSA Administrator remained a Bush appointee.
I think it's only coincidental incompetence. In truth, it's either an unmatched arrogance, or an overriding desire to "get" Obama, or "liberals" or "Show them" or something... The problem is that these people are willing to suborn the act of governance and/or national security in petty games of one-upsmanship or wing nut "payback" for slights real or imagined.

It's pathetic and childish, but that's what rules the day now.

Great job, Trump voters.

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:42 pm
by Defiant
CLAIM: An episode of the 1950s western TV series 'Trackdown' featured a snake oil salesman named 'Trump' who promised to build a wall in order to prevent the end of the world.
Snopes says True
Narrator: Hoby had checked the town. The people were ready to believe. Like sheep they ran to the slaughterhouse. And waiting for them was the high priest of fraud.

Trump: I am the only one. Trust me. I can build a wall around your homes that nothing can penetrate.

Townperson: What do we do? How can we save ourselves?

Trump: You ask how do you build that wall. You ask, and I'm here to tell you.
:lol:

Re: The Trump Presidency Thread

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:21 pm
by tgb
Now he claims that DC stores are sold out of gowns for the inauguration, and there are none to be found.

Well, guess what?
....the president-elect’s remarks seem to be a stretch.
Have they made a macro for this yet?