That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Yup.malchior wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:18 pm Yeah seeing Olbermann is really out of touch. While I mostly agree with the sentiment he absolutely did deliver a 'bothsides' argument when his side is clearly 90+% at fault. I think it falls pretty flat for that reason.
'Very little' is the point. Someone who got shitcanned from serious journalism and runs a Youtube channel now that he is done calling color commentary on balls and strikes amidst a pandemic is being compared to some of the highest rated people on tv newstainment. It's an extreme reach.Defiant wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:25 pmOf what little I've seen of Olbermann (which is very little), he probably deserves to be on the list
Except for me, it has more to do with not really ever having watched much msnbc or fox (especially since cutting the cord years ago).malchior wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:27 pm'Very little' is the point. Someone who got shitcanned from serious journalism and runs a Youtube channel now that he is done calling color commentary on balls and strikes amidst a pandemic is being compared to some of the highest rated people on tv newstainment. It's an extreme reach.Defiant wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:25 pmOf what little I've seen of Olbermann (which is very little), he probably deserves to be on the list
Exactly. Stop issuing statements and wringing your hands. F-ing do something. Anything.RunningMn9 wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:32 pm Mitt Romney is so distraught that he will continue to do the exact same things he was already doing.
On one count. He did the minimum possible right thing.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pm I have slightly more respect for Romney than the other GOP senators since he at least voted to convict Trump.
Which was more than any other GOP senator. It's all relative, right?Holman wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:57 pmOn one count. He did the minimum possible right thing.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pm I have slightly more respect for Romney than the other GOP senators since he at least voted to convict Trump.
Knowing that he could freely do it without any real effect.Holman wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:57 pmOn one count. He did the minimum possible right thing.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pm I have slightly more respect for Romney than the other GOP senators since he at least voted to convict Trump.
Only if virtue is bounded by the range of GOP behavior.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:32 pmWhich was more than any other GOP senator. It's all relative, right?Holman wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:57 pmOn one count. He did the minimum possible right thing.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:11 pm I have slightly more respect for Romney than the other GOP senators since he at least voted to convict Trump.
It let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
The problem isn't that Trump gets a town hall. The question is why is is *competing* at the same time? They could have run it Friday or Saturday or Sunday or at a different time slot.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
It allows Undecideds to play Choose Your Own Town Hall.malchior wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:32 am
As previously noted after Trump dropped out of the 2nd debate, Biden booked a town hall with ABC at that time slot. Now it has been announced that NBC is running a *COMPETING* townhall with Trump at the same time. How is that in the public interest?
LOL. Perhaps.Defiant wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:39 amIt allows Undecideds to play Choose Your Own Town Hall.malchior wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:32 am
As previously noted after Trump dropped out of the 2nd debate, Biden booked a town hall with ABC at that time slot. Now it has been announced that NBC is running a *COMPETING* townhall with Trump at the same time. How is that in the public interest?
Undecideds leaning towards Biden will be able to watch Biden answer questions, and it will help convince them to vote for Biden.
Undecideds leaning towards Trump will be able to watch Trump avoid answering questions, and it will help convince them to vote for Biden.
The public interest would be served by the town hall debate that Trump is ducking out of.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
Defiant wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 am Of course, you could always create your own debate.
Tune into the Biden town hall, and every 10 seconds or so when Biden is speaking, flip to the Trump town hall and then back again.
Because networks are a business and they are in the business of getting ratings.malchior wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:37 amThe problem isn't that Trump gets a town hall. The question is why is is *competing* at the same time? They could have run it Friday or Saturday or Sunday or at a different time slot.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
Too late I presume. This is sort of the distillation of it. There is no doubt in my mind that Trump shopped his own town hall around and demanded it be competing. Only NBC was cynical enough to accept it. The entire point is so that Trump can make some statement on Friday how his ratings were better. It's all 'moron politics' but why does everyone play into this chaos?Holman wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 amThe public interest would be served by the town hall debate that Trump is ducking out of.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
These aren't reciprocal events. Trump quit the original format because he was afraid to share a stage and prefers a rally.
Biden needs to invite Trump back to the original format. Make him decline again.
Of that there is no doubt but I did ask how is it in the public interest.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:50 amBecause networks are a business and they are in the business of getting ratings.
Are they trying to get higher ratings, or prevent ABC from getting higher ratings?stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:50 amBecause networks are a business and they are in the business of getting ratings.malchior wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:37 amThe problem isn't that Trump gets a town hall. The question is why is is *competing* at the same time? They could have run it Friday or Saturday or Sunday or at a different time slot.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
Still in my bunker. If NASA identified a 100km asteroid with a 9% chance of hitting the Earth, we'd be building spaceships for Bruce Willis and Liv Tyler right now.Grifman wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:46 pm After dipping as low as 83%, the Biden is now back up to 91% probability of an EC victory in The Economist forecast:
https://projects.economist.com/us-2020- ... /president
They are out to win the time slot, right? So definitely to beat ABC.Defiant wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:53 amAre they trying to get higher ratings, or prevent ABC from getting higher ratings?stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:50 amBecause networks are a business and they are in the business of getting ratings.malchior wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:37 amThe problem isn't that Trump gets a town hall. The question is why is is *competing* at the same time? They could have run it Friday or Saturday or Sunday or at a different time slot.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
Because if you want higher ratings, I would imagine holding it at a different (yet similar) time would get higher ratings, because some people would want to watch both.
Exactly, it's the only "win" he can get right now.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:56 am
They are out to win the time slot, right? So definitely to beat ABC.
Ben Affleck. Liv stayed behind and gets to look very concerned in Mission Control.LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:56 amStill in my bunker. If NASA identified a 100km asteroid with a 9% chance of hitting the Earth, we'd be building spaceships for Bruce Willis and Liv Tyler right now.Grifman wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 11:46 pm After dipping as low as 83%, the Biden is now back up to 91% probability of an EC victory in The Economist forecast:
https://projects.economist.com/us-2020- ... /president
For Trump it's a win -- no matter the outcome -- and the media wins by keeping us divided and bickering so they can sell us chaos.LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:57 amExactly, it's the only "win" he can get right now.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:56 am
They are out to win the time slot, right? So definitely to beat ABC.
That would just leave people with a positive impression of Trump, though.Unagi wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:59 am And it should have always just been called the debate and trumps podium should have been left empty.
I don't know about what's what, but if Trump ducked out of the Townhall and NBC decides to show him, where he controls everything, after ducking out, NBC are dead to me. I was just getting ready to switch to Comcast after two decades of calling them the Devil. That is now off the table.Holman wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:42 amThe public interest would be served by the town hall debate that Trump is ducking out of.stessier wrote: Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:36 amIt let's those who want to hear Trump speak on the issues in a Town Hall setting the opportunity?
It's just counterprogramming. The Biden hall is exclusive to ABC, right? I don't see a problem with it.
These aren't reciprocal events. Trump quit the original format because he was afraid to share a stage and prefers a rally.
Biden needs to invite Trump back to the original format. Make him decline again.
A new poll published by I24News and conducted by the Direct Falls Research Institute on Monday found that 63.3% of Israelis prefer the reelection of incumbent US President Donald Trump, compared to 18.8% whom prefer former Vice President and Democratic challenger Joe Biden. Respondents indicated that a majority believe Trump will be a better president for the State of Israel, a minority of Israelis said the same about Biden. 10.4% of respondents said that both candidates would be equally good for the State of Israel, while 3.1% said neither.