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ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:40 am

malchior wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:29 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:54 am Unless something has changed, as of this morning the Georgia document wasn't even filed yet. It exists only as a prop on her website (where she suggests that donations to her legal defense fund may be sent as checks payable to Sidney Powell).

Where is the ABA? Seriously. Aren't they supposed to police unprofessional conduct? We have prominent lawyers spreading conspiracy theories and taking direct donations to follow them.

The ABA is not a licensing organization. I'm not even a member of the ABA. You need to look to the state licensing organizations where she is a member.

Wasn't Yojimbo telling us how Sidney was going to wipe the floor with the Dems with these lawsuits?

Jaymann wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:24 pm Yes! There it is:

So we've got a nameless affiant - actually, that should be 'affiant,' the scare quotes are virtually mandatory - alleging that Smartmatic engaged in a conspiracy with Chavez.

The head Birther talks about Obama's boyfriends, the long arm of Hugo Chavez and how the Web is rigged against her

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez may have been rigging our elections. He can do this because he owns Sequoia Voting Systems? Did I know this? No. Neither did Google, since searching the Internet seems to indicate it's actually just a group of Venezuelans who own Sequoia, a fact I point out to Taitz.

Taitz is unfazed. "That's another interesting issue, because there was a transfer of shares. And some shares were transferred to company called Smartmatic, out of Florida. And then there were reports that actually, Hugo Chavez and people close to him own a large number of shares of Smartmatic." Oh, and there was another report, says Taitz. "But mainstream media would not talk about it. One of the founders of Smartmatic was in a very strange accident, in a small plane. Both engines gave way, and the plane fell from the sky. Interesting -- it was the sky over Caracas, Venezuela." Haven't I ever wondered how it is that Congress maintains abysmally low popularity but most members are reelected, Taitz asks. I offer the standard response: "Because people distrust the institution of Congress, but like their personal representative? Isn't that what numbers usually show?"

"Not necessarily, not necessarily," says Taitz, and moves along.

pr0ner wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:05 pm The Third Circuit tells Trump to pound sand.

Leading a unanimous three-member panel, a federal appellate judge appointed by outgoing President Donald Trump upheld a blistering lower court ruling that said the Trump campaign and Rudy Giuliani’s attempt to block certification of the election results in Pennsylvania was a meritless endeavor.

“Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy,” U.S. Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas wrote Friday for the unanimous three-judge panel. “Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here.”

“The Trump Presidential Campaign asserts that Pennsylvania’s 2020 election was unfair. But as lawyer Rudolph Giuliani stressed, the Campaign ‘doesn’t plead fraud. . . … [T]his is not a fraud case.’ … Instead, it objects that Pennsylvania’s Secretary of State and some counties restricted poll watchers and let voters fix technical defects in their mail-in ballots. It offers nothing more,” Bibas added.

Joining in the 21-page opinion were two of George W. Bush‘s Third Circuit appointees: Judge Michael Chagares and the Circuit’s Chief Judge D. Brooks Smith.
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“First, for the reasons already given, the Campaign is unlikely to succeed on the merits,” the ruling states. “Second, it shows no irreparable harm, offering specific challenges to many fewer ballots than the roughly 81,000-vote margin of victory. Third, the Campaign is responsible for its delay and repetitive litigation. Finally, the public interest strongly favors finality, counting every lawful voter’s vote, and not disenfranchising millions of Pennsylvania voters who voted by mail. Plus, discarding those votes could disrupt every other election on the ballot.”

pr0ner wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:05 pm The Third Circuit tells Trump to pound sand.

malchior wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:44 am

ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 1:40 am

malchior wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:29 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:54 am Unless something has changed, as of this morning the Georgia document wasn't even filed yet. It exists only as a prop on her website (where she suggests that donations to her legal defense fund may be sent as checks payable to Sidney Powell).

Where is the ABA? Seriously. Aren't they supposed to police unprofessional conduct? We have prominent lawyers spreading conspiracy theories and taking direct donations to follow them.

The ABA is not a licensing organization. I'm not even a member of the ABA. You need to look to the state licensing organizations where she is a member.

Wasn't Yojimbo telling us how Sidney was going to wipe the floor with the Dems with these lawsuits?

Ah I see. Thanks for the clarification. I did read an article that they seemed to be only making these statements in public and then carefully not doing it in court. In effect, they aren't risking their license -- just their reputation. Not being a lawyer I thought that there were 'more guardrails' professionally speaking. I belong to professional organizations where my accreditation would likely be jeopardized if I were to make certain public statements.

There is mounting evidence that the PA presidential election was compromised. If this is the case, under Article II, Section 1.2 of the US Constitution, the state legislature has the sole authority to direct the manner of selecting delegates to the Electoral College. (1)

This power was given to the state legislature for the purpose of safeguarding the appointment of our President, specifically contemplating corruption and ensuring that the people are not disenfranchised through a corrupt election process. (2)

Therefore, we are introducing a Resolution to exercise our obligation and authority to appoint delegates to the Electoral College. (3)

The Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed a lawsuit Saturday night from US Rep. Mike Kelly and other Republicans, after they had tried to invalidate absentee voting and block the certification of votes in recent weeks.
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The court was unanimous in deciding against Kelly and others, and refusing to block vote certification on Saturday. Five of the seven judges wrote that they believed the lawsuit had been filed far too late, a year after absentee voting procedures had been established in the state and weeks after millions of Pennsylvanians voted in good faith.
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"It is beyond cavil that Petitioners failed to act with due diligence in presenting the instant claim," the court wrote in its majority opinion.

The high court said the Republicans couldn't reconfigure their complaints and try again.

Lower courts in the state had said the lawsuit, which was filed weeks after Election Day, could stop counties from certifying votes, but that move had essentially become irrelevant.

The facts were indisputable: President Trump had lost.

But Trump refused to see it that way. Sequestered in the White House and brooding out of public view after his election defeat, rageful and at times delirious in a torrent of private conversations, Trump was, in the telling of one close adviser, like “Mad King George, muttering, ‘I won. I won. I won.’ ”

This account of one of the final chapters in Trump’s presidency is based on interviews with 32 senior administration officials, campaign aides and other advisers to the president, as well as other key figures in his legal fight, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity to share details about private discussions and to candidly assess the situation.

Holman wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:55 am tl;dr:
It's not an act. Trump truly believes there's a conspiracy against him. Some top aides consider him clinically paranoid and find it increasingly difficult even to communicate with him.

Holman wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:55 am tl;dr: It's not an act. Trump truly believes there's a conspiracy against him. Some top aides consider him clinically paranoid and find it increasingly difficult even to communicate with him.

Skinypupy wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:52 am

Holman wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:55 am tl;dr: It's not an act. Trump truly believes there's a conspiracy against him. Some top aides consider him clinically paranoid and find it increasingly difficult even to communicate with him.

Is this somehow a surprise to anyone? Seems to me it’s pretty obvious that’s what’s going on.

Dan Alban
@DanAlban

President Trump, ranting live on Fox News, confuses The
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with the Federalist Papers...

Acyn Torabi
@Acyn

Trump: They say you don’t have standing. You mean as president of the United States, I don’t have standing. What kind of a court system is this?

Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:48 am

Acyn Torabi
@Acyn

Trump: They say you don’t have standing. You mean as president of the United States, I don’t have standing. What kind of a court system is this?

A legal one, perhaps?

Jaymann wrote:

Acyn Torabi
@Acyn

Trump: They say you don’t have standing. You mean as president of the United States, I don’t have standing. What kind of a court system is this?

A legal one, perhaps?

Skinypupy wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:55 am

Jaymann wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:48 am

Acyn Torabi
@Acyn

Trump: They say you don’t have standing. You mean as president of the United States, I don’t have standing. What kind of a court system is this?

A legal one, perhaps?

He literally has no idea how the legal system actually works. JFC

https://mobile.twitter.com/Acyn/status/ ... 2758383616

Zarathud wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:09 pm He also has no case, no proof and no clue.

Mike Dunford
@questauthority

When I said that anyone who says machines have been impounded is either lying or dumb I didn't have any particular example in mind. But this despicable little shitbird will do fine for that.
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Lou Dobbs

@LouDobbs

Georgia Judge orders voting machines impounded immediately to preserve evidence.

It looks as if Rudy Giuliani was on to something. There is now a growing body of evidence of a vast conspiracy to steal the election from President Trump. Officials at the Department of Homeland Security have confirmed that more than 80 million people conspired to steal the election by voting for Joe Biden.

An F.B.I. investigation has determined that planning for the conspiracy began nearly two years ago, and was organized by people at the highest levels inside the Democratic Party, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Pete Buttigieg, Cory Booker, Amy Klobuchar and, of course, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. The F.B.I. has video footage of large public recruitment events where these shameless leaders openly asked people to vote for them.

pr0ner wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:14 pm Because Dominion is such a focus for the Trumpalos fighting the results:

https://twitter.com/EricBoehm87/status/ ... 7335086081

Sidney Powell's wild and reckless allegations are not only demonstrably false, they have led to stalking, harassment, and death threats to Dominion employees. This criminal activity has been duly reported to the appropriate law enforcement agencies, and we intend to hold Ms. Powell, and those aiding and abetting her fraudulent actions, accountable for any harm that may occur as a result.

Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq
The certification of Arizona’s FALSE results is unethical and knowingly participating in the corruption that has disenfranchised AZ voters.

BUT, this in no way impacts the state legislature’s ability to take back the proper selection of delegates.

There’s likely going to be a large shift towards Biden in the national popular vote tomorrow afternoon due to a quirk in the NYC election laws. The New York City Board of Elections is going to vote to certify the election results at their 1pm meeting, but due to some outdated administrative processes, the only results currently posted online are from in-person voting. We’re still missing the results of every vote-by-mail, which represent about 30% of the city’s vote total. These mail-in ballots have been collected and counted at warehouses throughout the city since Election Day. The Commissioners of the NYC BOE (a longstanding NY political patronage job) then have to meet and agree to certify the results before mail-in totals are updated on their website. They missed an original Nov. 28 deadline but they promise to certify tomorrow. It’s a slow and inefficient system but there is nothing nefarious about it.

I have no doubt that this will lead to the same calls of voter fraud from bad actors who have been at it for weeks. There will be all-caps tweets about the hundreds of thousands of additional votes added to the totals nearly a month after the election. These updated numbers should add to Biden's lead, with a combination of his strength in deep-blue NY along with the propensity of his voters to vote-by-mail. Tomorrow is just our notification of the official count. In nearly all cases, these ballots were correctly counted by BOE officials weeks ago.

Of course, New York missed an opportunity here to shut this down by providing real-time, or at least daily, updates. Still, if we all remember that these new totals are just the public notification of valid votes, our collective faith in our democracy will be better off for it.