Lynching Liaisons - The End

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:40 pm

Please please please.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:05 pm

queue Jeopardy Music
Answer is -

Spoiler:

Question - What is Grund?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:11 pm

The ghosts are all poised.
That's a good omen.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:13 pm

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:33 pm

Unagi wrote:The ghosts are all poised.
That's a good omen.

However, like most of the ghosts, I know no more than what I read in the game.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:30 pm

redrun wrote:
Unagi wrote:The ghosts are all poised.
That's a good omen.

However, like most of the ghosts, I know no more than what I read in the game.

Oh, yeah. never mind the omen then.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:37 pm

Unagi wrote:
redrun wrote:
Unagi wrote:The ghosts are all poised.
That's a good omen.

However, like most of the ghosts, I know no more than what I read in the game.
Oh, yeah. never mind the omen then.

The ghosts do have access to the spoiler forum.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:47 pm

Vorret wrote:Can't wait to see if my guts was right from the start

Vorret

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 9:48 pm

Spoiler:

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:53 pm

well, I am a bit more curious now, I thought Grund may be a miss.

Waiting on stessier.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:13 am

Day 5 Final Vote Count

Spoiler:

Votes required for lynch - 6

Aginst Grund (6) - Scoop, pr0ner, RMC, Vorret, Lagom Lite, Lassr
Against RMC (2) - LordMortis, Unagi

No votes (3) - Grundbegriff, theohall, redrun

There are 10 villagers + 1 wolf alive. The deadline for the lynch vote is July 11th at 1pm Eastern time.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:32 am

The Village was brimming with confidence. A hastily made sign now adorned the gallows - "You can't bake a cake without breaking a few eggs." Everyone was smiling and joking with their neighbors as Lassr and LordMortis led Grundbegriff to the platform. "I regret that I have but one life to give to my town," Grund said as he took his position.

Suddenly a strong wind blew through the square and the sky darkened. The ghosts of lynches passed slowly took their places at the foot of the platform and stood in silent vigil. Unfazed by their appearance, Lassr slipped the noose around Grund's neck and said "Quoth the raven - NEVERMORE!" as he pulled the lever.

Grund was dead. As the town watched, his hair slowly continued to grow throughout the day. At sunset, Lassr pulled him down confident the village had finally succeeded in eliminating it's lycanthropic scourge when he saw something underneath his shirt. Pulling up the plaid work-shirt revealed a t-shirt proclaiming the wonders of the new Grecian hair growth formula for men. Chortling, the apparitions vanished.

Grundbegriff was a Villager!

Boilerplate -
Mentalist - will you communicate with someone?
Werewolf Hunter - will you protect someone?
Sorcerer - what question do you seek an answer to?
Seer - on whom will you concentrate the Third Eye?
Cabalists - whom will you examine? The darkness has unlocked the Hidden Crypt once more.
Werewolves - who looks tasty?

Edit: Deadline for orders is Monday, July 8th at 11am Eastern. Daybreak will not occur before Wednesday, July 3rd at 7pm Eastern.
Note - I'm messing with the deadline times a bit on the short side so we can try to start another Day before the holiday. If there are any complaints/concerns, just let me know.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:16 am

well poo, I had a brief hope this would be over before the holiday.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:31 am

Damn... I thought he was a wolf for so long

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:23 am

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:25 am

At least the day went by quickly, I guess.

I'd also love to say I told you so, but in truth, I got nuthin.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:30 am

Let's see who the wolf offs tonight, and then go from there.

I have some thoughts actually....

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:01 am

RMC wrote:Let's see who the wolf offs tonight, and then go from there.

I have some thoughts actually....

well it's obvious they're gonna off all the known first

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:04 am

Vorret wrote:
RMC wrote:Let's see who the wolf offs tonight, and then go from there.

I have some thoughts actually....
well it's obvious they're gonna off all the known first

Right, but which one might have meaning, no?

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:07 am

RMC wrote:
Vorret wrote:
RMC wrote:Let's see who the wolf offs tonight, and then go from there.

I have some thoughts actually....
well it's obvious they're gonna off all the known first
Right, but which one might have meaning, no?

Same thing I've been thinking. So, move RMC to leaning good?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:58 am

Oh well, better we did that now, I suppose.

and, yeah... um - Let's see who the wolf offs tonight, and then go from there.... cause like - we have a choice.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:53 pm

tru1cy's last suspect before voting for purge was Unagi. Just throwing that out there for the next day.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:31 pm

Yeah. That didn't escape me.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:57 pm

Unagi wrote:Yeah. That didn't escape me.

It sure seemed to escape everyone else in the race to lynch Grundbegriff.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:07 pm

theohall wrote:
Unagi wrote:Yeah. That didn't escape me.
It sure seemed to escape everyone else in the race to lynch Grundbegriff.

Not I.

I'd like to test Unagi next. Everyone wanted to test Grund so that is where we went. It wasn't a bad lynch though as now we no longer have to guess Grund's alignment.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:02 pm

Man, I just can't pickem.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:37 pm

You all look guilty to me.

purge · Post by **purge** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:53 pm

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 7:51 pm

Lassr, what makes me feel best (about you) is that you 'want to test me next', because it is indeed still early "enough" - and I'd like to think you would think this wouldn't serve you well as a wolf. But clearly the wolf would love for me to be lynched, and I feel like you just keep drumming it up.

I think RMC is our best test, still.

Brakes on purge, if he could - but it didn't work out.

RMC wrote:
redrun wrote:
purge wrote:Frankly this feels wrong. Remuswolf wouldn't be so stupid as to spoof a role that could be disproven, and since LL clearly is alive and well, at best guess NC could have been 1 of 3 cabal. IIRC LL confirmed he was not, do that leaves one person to spoof as the other two were evil.
I'm ok with voting, but the seance should be saved. The cabal will be around to answer the NC issue. I don't trust Remus. The only good Remus is a dead one.
If the seer is not remus then they are likely alive. this simplifies their job. if Remuswolf manages to kill one player in a false lynch, the game is big enough, and they are at such a disadvantage that we can afford it for the seer to scan tonight and possibly even tomorrow night before revealing.
If remus is the seer, we can look forward to him leading us to failure.
Sent from my Nokia 920
One of the first substancial posts from Purge. Looking back, there is a whole lot of bad in this post. (20/20 hindsight and all that). Remus wouldn't spoof a role that could be disproven (come forward and disprove it seer!), but he doesn't trust Remus, but the seer should stay hidden for a while longer. The seance stuff is good and what the village should be thinking (IMO). This could be a real villager talking, but could also easily be a wolf supporting Remus's move.
Actually I think this is a great point, and since we have time
Withdraw Purge

So do you still think that Vorret is the best candidate? (Just going on where your vote is.

It's all these posts like we are all a group working together (I don't recall RMC always being like that)

RMC wrote:I'll put my vote back on him if that is what everyone wants.

and that goes back throughout the game really.

RMC wrote:So is BB our main suspect?

The vote was actually like this at the time:
Against Scoop (5) - RMC, pr0ner, El Guapo, bb2112, Vorret
Against El Guapo (4) - redrun, Lagom LIte, theohall, Grundbegriff
Against bb2112 (4) - LordMortis, Unagi, Lassr, Chaosraven
Against trig (1) - Scoop20906

He's appealing to people, and he squirmed all over the purge vote.

RMC is still my top test candidate - I'm in flux with the others at this point.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:51 pm

Unagi wrote:Lassr, what makes me feel best (about you) is that you 'want to test me next', because it is indeed still early "enough" - and I'd like to think you would think this wouldn't serve you well as a wolf. But clearly the wolf would love for me to be lynched, and I feel like you just keep drumming it up.

Simply goes back to my wild ass guess. What if Remus had 2 wolves and 1 villager in his scans in a sort of Hail Mary move.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:56 pm

Lassr wrote:
Unagi wrote:Lassr, what makes me feel best (about you) is that you 'want to test me next', because it is indeed still early "enough" - and I'd like to think you would think this wouldn't serve you well as a wolf. But clearly the wolf would love for me to be lynched, and I feel like you just keep drumming it up.

Simply goes back to my wild ass guess. What if Remus had 2 wolves and 1 villager in his scans in a sort of Hail Mary move.

Oh - whatever. lol - it's just stupid, IMO, sorry. Maybe it's just because I know what I am, but I just don't see why it's even a wild ass guess.

Why was Remus doing a 'hail mary' at that point, and why would I demand purge when most people seemed to push away from the idea of purge.

Anyhow, I think it's stupid - if others think it's worth testing, now is certainly better than later.

And, I think it's Vorret's intersection with your wild ass guess that catches my eye the most. He has always seemed eager to follow through with it.

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:11 am

While you both continue to ignore Lord Mortis.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:52 am

theohall wrote:While you both continue to ignore Lord Mortis.

No, I said he was #2 on my list. But I am an untrusted so I cannot really lead a vote at this point. Everyone wanted to test Grund yesterday so I went along.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:29 am

The Dawn came quickly and with it, another fated death. Lagom Lite finally finished his journey to the Light.

Who would the gallows claim today?

Villagers - Who will you lynch today?
Hunter - on whom will you pass your judgement?
Medium - with whom will you speak?

There are 8 villagers + 1 wolf alive. The deadline for the lynch vote is July 12th at 1pm Eastern time (please check my math).

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:39 am

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:52 am

theohall wrote:While you both continue to ignore Lord Mortis.

And today is as good as any to take me down. I'm still fine with exiting the conversation at this point. I still don't feel like my guesses are good. And I don't think yesterday told me much.

I figure I could convinced to vote for anyone but pr0ner. He's played masterfully if he's a wolf. Going back to day 1, I mull it over and I can't see him voting the way he did with the motivations he had before redrun/LL qantaga/bb2112/remus play. If he's a wolf and the wolves win, he gets the MVP for sure.

LordMortis
Lassr
RMC
Vorret
Scoop
Unagi

...

pr0ner

Happiest votes would be on RMC or Lassr with vorret coming a close third. I'll stick with my vote from yesterday for now.

RMC

theohall · Post by **theohall** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:52 am

Remus West was the Runt.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:07 pm

Unagi wrote: I think RMC is our best test, still.

Brakes on purge, if he could - but it didn't work out.
RMC wrote:
redrun wrote:
purge wrote:Frankly this feels wrong. Remuswolf wouldn't be so stupid as to spoof a role that could be disproven, and since LL clearly is alive and well, at best guess NC could have been 1 of 3 cabal. IIRC LL confirmed he was not, do that leaves one person to spoof as the other two were evil.
I'm ok with voting, but the seance should be saved. The cabal will be around to answer the NC issue. I don't trust Remus. The only good Remus is a dead one.
If the seer is not remus then they are likely alive. this simplifies their job. if Remuswolf manages to kill one player in a false lynch, the game is big enough, and they are at such a disadvantage that we can afford it for the seer to scan tonight and possibly even tomorrow night before revealing.
If remus is the seer, we can look forward to him leading us to failure.
Sent from my Nokia 920
One of the first substancial posts from Purge. Looking back, there is a whole lot of bad in this post. (20/20 hindsight and all that). Remus wouldn't spoof a role that could be disproven (come forward and disprove it seer!), but he doesn't trust Remus, but the seer should stay hidden for a while longer. The seance stuff is good and what the village should be thinking (IMO). This could be a real villager talking, but could also easily be a wolf supporting Remus's move.
Actually I think this is a great point, and since we have time
Withdraw Purge

So do you still think that Vorret is the best candidate? (Just going on where your vote is.
It's all these posts like we are all a group working together (I don't recall RMC always being like that)
RMC wrote:I'll put my vote back on him if that is what everyone wants.
and that goes back throughout the game really.
RMC wrote:So is BB our main suspect?
The vote was actually like this at the time:
Against Scoop (5) - RMC, pr0ner, El Guapo, bb2112, Vorret
Against El Guapo (4) - redrun, Lagom LIte, theohall, Grundbegriff
Against bb2112 (4) - LordMortis, Unagi, Lassr, Chaosraven
Against trig (1) - Scoop20906

He's appealing to people, and he squirmed all over the purge vote.

RMC is still my top test candidate - I'm in flux with the others at this point.

I see that as RMC being RMC. For a wolf he is being quite careless. I don't think it is RMC although as I have said he has some very wolfish posts. I guess it wouldn't be the first time a wolf was careless and got caught but I just don't feel that is the case here.

But if everyone feels he is worth a test then so be it. I have no credibility to sway a vote.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:33 pm

Why would purge accuse RMC right before he died... why name the other wolf and put focus on him?
I don't get the idea behind that.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Vorret wrote:Why would purge accuse RMC right before he died... why name the other wolf and put focus on him?
I don't get the idea behind that.

it is a wolf tactic that they hope leads the exact conclusion you just spoke of. Is it a wolf tactic in this case? dunno.