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I've always thought Tapper was a pretty good reporter... You are probably right though, and that sucks.malchior wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:09 am I wish the clip went longer so we can watch Tapper (probably) not challenge her on the absolute horror of that statement.
He is generally and in fairness the format is 95% of the problem. These audiences are put there to lob in softballs. And the majority are running as more serious, less tainted Trumps.Unagi wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:15 amI've always thought Tapper was a pretty good reporter... You are probably right though, and that sucks.malchior wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:09 am I wish the clip went longer so we can watch Tapper (probably) not challenge her on the absolute horror of that statement.
A good first step but the Atlantic article made it clear he was just the instrument to implement Zaslav's desire to move CNN to the right.
I'll take whatever measure of accountability I can get these days. Licht fucked up, and now he's out, which is good. To the extent that Zaslav is motivated by profit seeking, maybe this misadventure causes him to recalibrate. I dare not hope, but who knows.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:59 pm The Atlantic piece made it clear that Licht was far, far, far over his head. I also tend to agree that Zaslav will ikely install a competent manager to push this right-wing agenda but let's see how this shakes out.
I am suspending my boycott of CNN, which began after their trump rally, for the time being. You're on probation, CNN.El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 08, 2023 9:33 amI'll take whatever measure of accountability I can get these days. Licht fucked up, and now he's out, which is good. To the extent that Zaslav is motivated by profit seeking, maybe this misadventure causes him to recalibrate. I dare not hope, but who knows.malchior wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 11:59 pm The Atlantic piece made it clear that Licht was far, far, far over his head. I also tend to agree that Zaslav will ikely install a competent manager to push this right-wing agenda but let's see how this shakes out.
Time Headline: How Ukraine's dam collapse could become the country's 'Chernobyl'
Not many outlets do.
I think it is extremely rare for any place to use a headline from the article writer. At least that is what my listening of the Press Box podcast would suggest. Headlines are an artform in and of themselves.
I know that, but it seems foolish to not give the writer input into the headline, given that they're the experts on what the article says.stessier wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:01 pmI think it is extremely rare for any place to use a headline from the article writer. At least that is what my listening of the Press Box podcast would suggest. Headlines are an artform in and of themselves.
In other words, it's an advertising blurb.stessier wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:01 pmI think it is extremely rare for any place to use a headline from the article writer. At least that is what my listening of the Press Box podcast would suggest. Headlines are an artform in and of themselves.
Editors hate this ONE WEIRD TRICK...
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Depends on the publication. Writers submit a headline with their story. 75% of the time, I let it stand, or change just a word or two. When I do rewrite them, it's to make them shorter and clearer. But I work for a nonprofit academic press. We like using keywords, but not clickbait, and accuracy is priority numero uno.Blackhawk wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:48 pmIn other words, it's an advertising blurb.stessier wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:01 pmI think it is extremely rare for any place to use a headline from the article writer. At least that is what my listening of the Press Box podcast would suggest. Headlines are an artform in and of themselves.
Watters, 44, joined the network as a production assistant in 2002 and has anchored the 19:00 EDT (23:00 GMT) timeslot since the start of this year.
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Watters, best known for his man-on-the-street interviews in New York City, is co-host of the popular roundtable show The Five.
His instalment in Carlson's old timeslot comes amid a broader shake-up in the channel's nightly line-up.
Laura Ingraham, who hosts The Ingraham Angle, is moving to the 19:00 hour, while popular late-night host Greg Gutfeld will take over at 22:00, the network announced on Monday.
Sean Hannity, a primetime Fox anchor for more than two decades, will see his show remain in the 21:00 slot, the network said.
Smartmatic lawsuit v Newsmax proceeding...LordMortis wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:24 pm Fox admits to lying and dominion settles for 787.5 million live conference going on. Dominion going on to"next case" Yay? What will that do to Fox though?
Edit - Smartmatic v Fox also still moving forward (bigger demand than Dominion, FWIW):Dominion Voting Systems’ defamation lawsuit against Fox News laid bare how the network communicated behind the scenes about broadcasting 2020 election misinformation, ultimately leading the network to fork over a massive settlement. Newsmax could be next, as voting-technology company Smartmatic has subpoenaed several of the right-wing cable network’s current and former employees for work and personal correspondence.
Several Newsmax insiders, who spoke with Rolling Stone under a condition of anonymity due to a fear of reprisal, said that roughly three weeks ago they were told to hand over “mirror images of their personal cellphone, personal email, and iCloud,” as Smartmatic’s lawsuit against the network moves forward.
Article re smartmatic/fox from April...In the wake of its historic $787 million settlement with Dominion, Fox News will now turn over additional evidence as part of the ongoing $2.7 billion defamation case it is facing from Smartmatic, lawyers for both sides said in court on Wednesday.
Fox has agreed to turn over depositions, exhibits, and "all of the responding documents" related to a number of individuals at the company-- including Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, an attorney for Smartmatic, Edward Wipper, said in court.
In an unusual step, GQ magazine removed an article critical of powerful media executive David Zaslav from its website just hours after it was published Monday, following a complaint from Zaslav’s camp.
The story, by freelance film critic Jason Bailey, excoriated the CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery for his handling of the company’s entertainment properties — specifically perceived crimes against film, such as the layoffs at the Turner Classic Movies channel that outraged prominent directors and other superfans and his decision to not release finished movies such as “Batgirl” for tax purposes. At one point, Bailey compared Zaslav to tyrannical “Succession” patriarch Logan Roy.
“In a relatively short period of time, David Zaslav has become perhaps the most hated man in Hollywood,” Bailey wrote.
A Zaslav spokesman complained to GQ about the story soon after it was published, according to people close to the process who spoke on the condition of anonymity to preserve confidences. By early afternoon on Monday, the magazine had made extensive edits to the story.
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The edits and eventual deletion of the story angered top film critics. On Twitter, writer Scott Tobias said the edited version of the story was “completely unacceptable,” while critic Matt Zoller Seitz shared the archived version of Bailey’s article. Critic Hunter Harris illustrated the controversy on Twitter with a screenshot from HBO’s “The Wire” — another Warner Bros. Discovery property — in which fan-favorite stickup artist Omar Little describes a rival operation as “very sloppy.”
The flap over the GQ article is just the latest controversy for Zaslav, who has presided over cuts at Warner Bros. Discovery as it works to pay off nearly $50 billion in debt. The company’s stock price has fallen by about half since April 2022, when Discovery and WarnerMedia merged in a $43 billion deal.
Zaslav has also faced challenges managing Warner Bros. Discovery’s most prominent cable property, CNN. Zaslav fired his handpicked CEO, Chris Licht, in June after months of management turmoil at the news giant, culminating in Licht’s ill-advised participation in a profile in the Atlantic that suggested that Licht was out of his depth.
True if this was journalism. It is opinion. It's totally different. It's also wrong to call it defamatory. It's certainly negative but media critics don't call the director when they write a bad review. That is akin to what it was. A bad review of Zaslav's performance as a media chief.hepcat wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:38 pm It is, or at least used to be, considered good practice in journalism to ask for comment when the content of the article is defamatory.
It was a list of events and his opinion about them. The only side of the story was his expert opinion as a media critic.Again, not defending the sentiment as I totally agree that WB has screwed up a lot in the recent past. But I also find pieces that don't even try to get another side of the story to be less impactful.
There is such a thing as "Opinion Journalism", by the way. It's considered one of the main forms of journalism, as a matter of fact. This would, I believe, apply here. So I also disagree good journalism practice should be ignored in these cases.WBD’s main point of contention was that it had never been contacted by Bailey at any stage of the writing process, which is not the norm for corporate coverage in general.
They normally don't review the director himself though.media critics don't call the director when they write a bad review.
Probably will to agree to disagree because we're worlds apart on this. FWIW I don't care really care what the Daily Beast says. It's a rag. I'd agree that some opinions may vary here but it's a stretch to call it the norm. As to varying opinions, here is one saying not neccessary. A second saying he should have but also essentially says it's an ass covering move. We're not talking about some hard rule here at all. And even so the second goes on to say that GQ acted like wimps. Their editorial staff printed it and then shrank when someone powerful came knocking. They look pretty weak.hepcat wrote: Thu Jul 06, 2023 4:15 pm I guess we'll agree to disagree then. I mean, it's a high end tabloid" so take that as you will, but even Daily Beast says it's not the norm.
I'm still trying to understand why you think this is a rule and why it matters *in this case*. Just take a step back. He listed true events and gave his opinion. What's the point of getting a comment there? The general reason to get an opinion would where there are facts or opinions are in dispute. The facts aren't in dispute and it is the author's own opinion. What's the dispute? Why would getting a comment clarify anything. Opinion pieces have no duty to be fair. They just need to be true. There was nothing untrue involved as far as I've seen.There is such a thing as "Opinion Journalism", by the way. It's considered one of the main forms of journalism, as a matter of fact. This would, I believe, apply here. So I also disagree good journalism practice should be ignored in these cases.
I don't understand this comment because this happens all the time. Opinion writers often dig into the director's motivations, abilities, and such when reviewing movies or contextualizing a movie placed in context of a career. That's entirely normal.They normally don't review the director himself though.
More importantly, WTF is he doing wearing Skechers??? Come on, Joe . . . Not cool.
