Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 2:05 pm
Zero (as in no) chance of him seeing the inside of a jail cell. It's never going to happen.
This is the only case that will be adjudicated before the election now, right? All others have been delayed or shelved indefinitely?
This was the least serious of the crimes he committed. He won't be held accountable for stealing documents or inciting a riot until after the election, if then.
He didn’t steal documents. He is still the rightful caesar I mean president in his own mind so he isn’t guilty.
As for the riot that was clearly incited by Joe Biden and the democrats because they felt guilty about stealing the election and wanted to put things right. You don’t see republicans going around saying hang mike pence for example. Thats just silly.
Im not sure who's more bottom of the barrel, Joe Piscapo or Chuck Zito.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Wed May 22, 2024 3:54 pm
by hepcat
Zito really is a major scumbag. Piscopo is just an annoying comic who did utter one of the best lines of SNL history as Frank Sinatra meeting George Michaels.
I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool!
I just found it funny he showed up at Trump's trial to support him.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 8:00 am
by Scraper
hepcat wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 3:54 pm
Zito really is a major scumbag. Piscopo is just an annoying comic who did utter one of the best lines of SNL history as Frank Sinatra meeting George Michaels.
I've got chunks of guys like you in my stool!
I just found it funny he showed up at Trump's trial to support him.
Either way it's embarrassing that they are the best he can do. I mean he couldn't even get Chachi to show up.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 23, 2024 2:31 pm
by Alefroth
Kevin Sorbo and Ted Nugent must have been busy.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 1:21 am
by em2nought
Spielberg better hurry and get that deep fake video of President Trump shooting puppies with the South Dakota governor finished this weekend.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Sun May 26, 2024 10:40 am
by hepcat
Why do they need to make a deep fake when they can just use actual footage?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:25 pm
by Daehawk
Donny seems to have very bad gas in court and gets a new nickname for it...
Donald 'Von ShitzInPantz' has now formally been entered into the public record at Trump's hush-money trial.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Wed May 29, 2024 7:38 pm
by Daehawk
Its just not looking good for tRump
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:42 pm
by Grifman
A verdict has been reached, and will be announced shortly.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:47 pm
by El Guapo
Wow. Well...this should be interesting.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 4:55 pm
by Kurth
Holy shit. I'm on the edge of my seat. Although, I'm not sure it really matters all that much . . .
[Edited to add prediction: I think they find him guilty on all counts. I don't think it's a good sign for Trump that the jury reached a verdict this quickly. I thought his best hope was a hung jury, and I think that's what he and his legal team thought, too. I think they may be hosed.]
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:04 pm
by Daehawk
Im still waiting. Im trying to keep up with this on CNN is there a better place for a timely update?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:07 pm
by Kurth
Guilty on all counts.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:07 pm
by Daehawk
count 1 guilty - felony doh beat me to it.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
by El Guapo
So....does the American polity still have any standards? We will soon find out!
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
by Hyena
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:10 pm
by Grifman
This means he can’t vote, LOL!
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:10 pm
by hepcat
I'm actually worried about what comes next.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:11 pm
by Zaxxon
And... now what?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:11 pm
by Daehawk
It just keeps going. All 34 counts..all felonies
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:11 pm
by El Guapo
I just told my 14 YO daughter. She asked "does this mean he's not going to be elected president?" I said, "I wish I could say definitely not but...we'll see."
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 pm
by Kurth
El Guapo wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
So....does the American polity still have any standards? We will soon find out!
You're kidding, right?
The saddest thing about this is how happy it is making most of us, when the fact of the matter is, if anything, this will likely propel Trump to the White House. I bet he fundraises to new records tonight off of this. Oh well. What can you do? At least justice has been served to some degree with this verdict.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:18 pm
by Zaxxon
Kurth wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 pmAt least justice has been served to some degree with this verdict.
Justice is served via consequences, not verdicts.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:18 pm
by Daehawk
I dont see where you're getting that from. 34 felonies isn't stealing candy from a baby
El Guapo wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
So....does the American polity still have any standards? We will soon find out!
You're kidding, right?
The saddest thing about this is how happy it is making most of us, when the fact of the matter is, if anything, this will likely propel Trump to the White House. I bet he fundraises to new records tonight off of this. Oh well. What can you do? At least justice has been served to some degree with this verdict.
Honestly, I don't think this helps him. He'll probably get some additional donations from the MAGA faithful out of this, but even on that I suspect a lot of those donations will just be sped up rather than newly generated. If this conviction makes you more likely to vote for Trump in November, you probably already support him.
I do wish I had more faith about it hurting him, though. You figure "convicted felon" is a talking point that will move at least a couple people on the margins, right?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:24 pm
by Jaymann
TRUMP GUILTY ON ALL 34 FELONY CHARGES
Sweetest headline I have seen in years. So let me get this straight...a convicted felon cannot vote but can be elected President?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:26 pm
by Daehawk
Can we get a big old GUILTY in the thread title in capital letters plz?
El Guapo wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
So....does the American polity still have any standards? We will soon find out!
You're kidding, right?
The saddest thing about this is how happy it is making most of us, when the fact of the matter is, if anything, this will likely propel Trump to the White House. I bet he fundraises to new records tonight off of this. Oh well. What can you do? At least justice has been served to some degree with this verdict.
Honestly, I don't think this helps him. He'll probably get some additional donations from the MAGA faithful out of this, but even on that I suspect a lot of those donations will just be sped up rather than newly generated. If this conviction makes you more likely to vote for Trump in November, you probably already support him.
I do wish I had more faith about it hurting him, though. You figure "convicted felon" is a talking point that will move at least a couple people on the margins, right?
I'm afraid it will move the idiots to eat up his persecution narrative that he's been the target of the Biden administration and that "the country is rigged." Agreed that those idiots wouldn't have voted for Biden, but I'm concerned that it may work to energize Trump's base even more.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:27 pm
by Grifman
Trump was anything but remorseful in his post verdict comments, calling the judge and trial corrupt. That will not serve him well during sentencing. Judges don’t like defendants that continue to assert their innocence after a verdict has been rendered.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:29 pm
by Jaymann
Funny that an orange turd who tries to stage an insurrection, steals classified documents, and is caught on tape trying to steal votes in Georgia, is brought down because he boned a sleazy porn star. If nothing else it should embolden juries to find him guilty.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:31 pm
by Zarathud
At some point, you can’t pay people enough to keep their mouths shut about your behavior.
El Guapo wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:09 pm
So....does the American polity still have any standards? We will soon find out!
You're kidding, right?
The saddest thing about this is how happy it is making most of us, when the fact of the matter is, if anything, this will likely propel Trump to the White House. I bet he fundraises to new records tonight off of this. Oh well. What can you do? At least justice has been served to some degree with this verdict.
Honestly, I don't think this helps him. He'll probably get some additional donations from the MAGA faithful out of this, but even on that I suspect a lot of those donations will just be sped up rather than newly generated. If this conviction makes you more likely to vote for Trump in November, you probably already support him.
I do wish I had more faith about it hurting him, though. You figure "convicted felon" is a talking point that will move at least a couple people on the margins, right?
Agree. The MAGAts are 100% in the bag no matter what. Independents and real conservatives, not so much. I won't say it's a decisive edge, but it's surely going to peel off some of his marginal support. And elections are won/lost on the margins.
Of course the big question now is sentencing. The chance that he goes to prison is probably about 0.1%, but it's non-zero!
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:32 pm
by El Guapo
Grifman wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:27 pm
Trump was anything but remorseful in his post verdict comments
I find this hard to believe.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:33 pm
by Grifman
Sentencing is July 11, four days before the Republican Convention.
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:34 pm
by Smoove_B
We know this energizes him and his cultists, but my question is how will the shambling husk of what was the GOP respond? Will *this* be the moment they finally decide to try and shed their MAGA label and do what they can to salvage what's left of the party? Or do they double-down now for the final approach?
Re: NY vs. Trump - Hush Money Trial
Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 5:36 pm
by Kraken
Jaymann wrote: Thu May 30, 2024 5:29 pm
Funny that an orange turd who tries to stage an insurrection, steals classified documents, and is caught on tape trying to steal votes in Georgia, is brought down because he boned a sleazy porn star. If nothing else it should embolden juries to find him guilty.
Yeah, this was the least consequential of his crimes. Unfortunately none of the more serious ones will be tried before the election. I guess there's still an outside shot that the GA case could begin in the fall?
