Octopus Overlords

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:10 am**

Lassr wrote:
bb2112 wrote: But it also was meant to point a finger at some the older, more wylie contingent of players. I consider myself and RMC to be newer additions to the game. So when I say older players, I am more focused on the rest of you. .
So what makes the death of LL and Q a wily old vet move?

No answer to this question?
Instead you just vote for me.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:17 am**

"Why Qantaga" is the question most curious to me.

Either stessier is unseemly, or someone wishes him to look that way.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:29 am**

triggercut wrote:"Why Qantaga" is the question most curious to me.

Either stessier is unseemly, or someone wishes him to look that way.

for me.. i think its more of a false trail, since Q did go after Stessier pretty hard out of everyone on their. So would a wolf panick and take out an aggressor...or try to set someone up to set the following days lynch? I kind of like the latter to be honest. Plus Stessier has been vibing good to me actually.

Now Lassr on the other hand..he just seems happy - go lucky evil Lassr. Always around, willing to chime in. But by far not stirring the pot. Tossing in a platitude here and there. Just coasting. He seems by far to be evil lassr and not good guy lassr.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:32 am**

triggercut wrote:
His first vote on stessier is why my vote's on stess right now.

I'm trying to figure out your connection of Q and stessier. Is this it?

So you think Q may have scanned stessier on night one making stessier Rodrigo, or possibly converted Desdemona or maybe Cassio?

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:34 am**

Newcastle wrote: Now Lassr on the other hand..he just seems happy - go lucky evil Lassr. Always around, willing to chime in. But by far not stirring the pot. Tossing in a platitude here and there. Just coasting. He seems by far to be evil lassr and not good guy lassr.

Well, I have been trying to get BB to answer my question.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:50 am**

bb2112
Chaosraven
Holman
Lassr
Newcastle
RMC
stessier
theohall
triggercut

BB still feels off to me.

Chaosraven, RMC, Theohall. - Too quiet.

I wonder if Iago is active and Rodrigo is quiet (since he can be successfully scanned by Othello).

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:08 am**

withdraw BB2112

Let's go for a quiet one.

Chaosraven

I choose you.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:43 pm**

I'm busy trying to nail down a new job and running experiments in my current role. Why is everyone else quiet? And why is Holman still alive? He's in no way acting the noob and that ain't right. On top of that, if we get far enough for there to be a final 3, do we really want him to be one of the 3? It would just be a coin flip.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:58 pm**

I've said what I can say right now. Nothing much else to go on.

Holman is still alive because he's new and I have no history to judge him against. You really want the new guy gone though.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:01 pm**

Lassr wrote: withdraw BB2112

Let's go for a quiet one.

Chaosraven

I choose you.

Lassr wrote:I've said what I can say right now. Nothing much else to go on.

Holman is still alive because he's new and I have no history to judge him against. You really want the new guy gone though.

Holman is just as silent, which is odd for someone new. So why not Holman as the silent chosen one? Or do you know something we do not?

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:05 pm**

theohall wrote:
Lassr wrote: withdraw BB2112

Let's go for a quiet one.

Chaosraven

I choose you.

Lassr wrote:I've said what I can say right now. Nothing much else to go on.

Holman is still alive because he's new and I have no history to judge him against. You really want the new guy gone though.
Holman is just as silent, which is odd for someone new. So why not Holman as the silent chosen one? Or do you know something we do not?

Is it odd for someone new? He could be silent because he sitting back and learning the game by observing.

Why not Holman, because I have no history with him.

If that is where the village wishes to go then I'm all for testing him. I have no better target. BB still creeping me out but I have nothing solid on him.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:10 pm**

I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:19 pm**

triggercut wrote:I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!

I am thinking Newcastle is bad. I think he is doing a good job of throwing out a name here and there, and trying to tie them together.

But I am wrong a lot, and since I think Chaos is good, he is most likely the bad guy and newcastle is good. <shrug>

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:05 pm**

theohall wrote:
Lassr wrote:I've said what I can say right now. Nothing much else to go on.

Holman is still alive because he's new and I have no history to judge him against. You really want the new guy gone though.
Holman is just as silent, which is odd for someone new. So why not Holman as the silent chosen one? Or do you know something we do not?

Never mistake the silence of not knowing for a knowing silence!

I'm learning a little, but I'll need a few rounds more to understand some of the intricacies, I think.

I wonder if I'll be alive to learn.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:49 pm**

Ok then. I guess that changes a few things.

Withdraw Lassr

And then...

Stessier

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:55 pm**

Lassr, my reason for accusing you was purely because of the night kills. I don't think a newer person would have chosen LL and Q. I do think a person that has been playing this for multiple years wouldn't have hesitated in killing them. I chose you out of my three suspects because you were the first to vote RW. However Stess did put him at N-1 knowing I was chomping at the bit to kill him.

And Stess, I have been putting in 12+ hour days due to budget season at a company that is challenged by the concept of a budgeting process. That is why I'm not as talkative as usual.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:49 pm**

bb2112 wrote:Lassr, my reason for accusing you was purely because of the night kills. I don't think a newer person would have chosen LL and Q.

I understood that; I was just trying to figure why LL and Q was a ripe target for a veteran or why you think I would kill the two as a bad guy? I have no vendetta against either. But whatever. I've milked this all I can. I'll just keep you on my watch list for now.

Now on to what triggercut said which is interesting.

and also withdraw Chaosraven

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:50 pm**

triggercut wrote:I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!

interesting...there, you have spiked my interest.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:52 pm**

stessier

That should be N-1

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:57 pm**

I'm a good special.

Have to put the girls to bed- be back.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:08 pm**

As the guy who was shopping for cheap 1980's electronic music keyboards once said: "Are there any other Cassio's around here?"

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:15 pm**

triggercut wrote:As the guy who was shopping for cheap 1980's electronic music keyboards once said: "Are there any other Cassio's around here?"

Yeah, I've turned it over every which where and there is no where I can hide. Why did you out me? By my figuring, you had a 50/50 chance I was good. Why not just come forward with Lassr and say you know one other and let me protect you? It seems very odd.

And no one will contest it.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:21 pm**

withdraw Stessier

Need to sort some things out. Things just got real interesting.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:21 pm**

withdraw stessier

just in Chaos comes in and places a killing vote on you by "accident"

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:23 pm**

Lassr wrote: withdraw stessier

just in case Chaos comes in and places a killing vote on you by "accident"

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:23 pm**

well I see BB beat me by a few seconds.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:49 pm**

I did, but I withdrew for basically the same reason as you. Now that I have 2 of my 3 suspects trending good, I have to go back and rethink my whole thought process. And I say that RMC is always wrong, sheesh.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:57 pm**

bb2112 wrote:I did, but I withdrew for basically the same reason as you. Now that I have 2 of my 3 suspects trending good, I have to go back and rethink my whole thought process. And I say that RMC is always wrong, sheesh.

[Nelson voice] Ha Ha [/Nelson Voice]

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:01 pm**

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:06 pm**

stessier wrote:
triggercut wrote:As the guy who was shopping for cheap 1980's electronic music keyboards once said: "Are there any other Cassio's around here?"
Yeah, I've turned it over every which where and there is no where I can hide. Why did you out me? By my figuring, you had a 50/50 chance I was good. Why not just come forward with Lassr and say you know one other and let me protect you? It seems very odd.

And no one will contest it.

I didn't out you. I gave the results of what I scanned. Had we hung an innocent today and I died in the night, is it a good play for me to have left the game with two scans and no reveal of that info?

Frankly, Othello is a fairly useless "powered" character. None of his information is worthwhile.

I'm still not convinced Qantaga or LL weren't Cassio and you're not Rodrigo.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:09 pm**

So trig - to be clear.... you scanned whom and got what? spell it out for us idiots in the room.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:12 pm**

triggercut wrote:I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!

You're having trouble deciphering this, Newcastle?

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:13 pm**

triggercut wrote:
stessier wrote:
triggercut wrote:As the guy who was shopping for cheap 1980's electronic music keyboards once said: "Are there any other Cassio's around here?"
Yeah, I've turned it over every which where and there is no where I can hide. Why did you out me? By my figuring, you had a 50/50 chance I was good. Why not just come forward with Lassr and say you know one other and let me protect you? It seems very odd.

And no one will contest it.
I didn't out you. I gave the results of what I scanned. Had we hung an innocent today and I died in the night, is it a good play for me to have left the game with two scans and no reveal of that info?

Frankly, Othello is a fairly useless "powered" character. None of his information is worthwhile.

I'm still not convinced Qantaga or LL weren't Cassio and you're not Rodrigo.

I agree about Othello. Now we have stessier which I assume you scanned as foe. He could be Rodrigo; they scanned Q night 1 and found him to be a non villager so killed him. Stessier then took the chance that Q was Cassio since he was nabbed anyhow.

Or stessier is Cassio.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:16 pm**

Lassr wrote:
triggercut wrote:
stessier wrote:
triggercut wrote:As the guy who was shopping for cheap 1980's electronic music keyboards once said: "Are there any other Cassio's around here?"
Yeah, I've turned it over every which where and there is no where I can hide. Why did you out me? By my figuring, you had a 50/50 chance I was good. Why not just come forward with Lassr and say you know one other and let me protect you? It seems very odd.

And no one will contest it.
I didn't out you. I gave the results of what I scanned. Had we hung an innocent today and I died in the night, is it a good play for me to have left the game with two scans and no reveal of that info?

Frankly, Othello is a fairly useless "powered" character. None of his information is worthwhile.

I'm still not convinced Qantaga or LL weren't Cassio and you're not Rodrigo.
I agree about Othello. Now we have stessier which I assume you scanned as foe. He could be Rodrigo; they scanned Q night 1 and found him to be a non villager so killed him. Stessier then took the chance that Q was Cassio since he was nabbed anyhow.

Or stessier is Cassio.

And you might still be Iago.

Or you could be Emilia, and in a turn you'll be on the other team.

Posted: **Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:23 pm**

possible also, I am not, but possible per the rules nonetheless.

Posted: **Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:15 am**

At any event, I came forward with my information--and my vote remains on stessier--for the following reasons:

1. stessier's still alive.

2. Qantaga died on night 2. Q was the first vote on stessier on day 1. While it's extremely circumstantial and it's not "proof" by any means, I can envision a scenario where the killing of Q was because they were worried he'd scanned stess.

3. I knew when I came forward that stessier would claim to be Cassio. I had hoped his claim would be countermanded. It wasn't.

4. My vote remains on stessier because he didn't come forward at N-1. He was worried about which role to claim, or whether to claim one at all. I think Cassio would have come forward at N-1. I was hoping he would and save me from having to out myself. Didn't happen. That he didn't come forward reinforced to me that he isn't Cassio, claim or not.

FWIW, I don't think he's Cassio at all. I think he's Rodrigo.

My vote remains on him.

I'm an unreliable source of info, though.

Posted: **Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:25 am**

triggercut wrote:
triggercut wrote:I'm off to dinner for a few hours, but let's spike everyone's interest a little bit.

I have reasons to think stessier is a bad guy. If you were to ask me, I'd say I was sure he was an enemy...but self-awareness tells me I'm unreliable.

I have reasons to think that Lassr is a good guy. I'm sure of that, too.

But again...unreliable.

Go!
You're having trouble deciphering this, Newcastle?

Yup!
cuz imma....slow man

Posted: **Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:39 am**

triggercut wrote:Frankly, Othello is a fairly useless "powered" character. None of his information is worthwhile.

Sounds like a tragic flaw!

Posted: **Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:40 am**

Tuesday: Votes

theohall acc stessier(1)
Newcastle acc triggercut(1)
stessier acc Holman(1)
Holman acc stessier(2)
triggercut acc stessier(3)
Newcastle wd triggercut(0)
Newcastle acc Chaosraven(1)
Lassr acc bb2112(1)
theohall wd stessier(2)
theohall acc Holman(2)
bb2112 acc Lassr(1)
Newcastle wd Chaosraven(0)
Newcastle acc Lassr(2)
Lassr wd bb2112(0)
Lassr acc Chaosraven(1)
bb2112 wd Lassr(1)
bb2112 acc stessier(3)
Lassr wd Chaosraven(0)
Lassr acc stessier(4)
bb2112 wd stessier(3)
Lassr wd stessier(2)

Against stessier(2): theohall, Holman, triggercut, bb2112, Lassr
Against triggercut(0): Newcastle
Against Holman(1): stessier, theohall
Against Chaosraven(0): Newcastle, Lassr
Against bb2112(0): Lassr
Against Lassr(1): bb2112, Newcastle

Votes requires for a majority: 5

No vote registered:
bb2112, Chaosraven, Lassr, RMC

Men of Infinite Jest

Lagom Lite
Qantaga
Remus West

Posted: **Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:35 am**

trig - regarding point 4, he did come out at n-1. and after your sloppy reveal.

So despite your scan of stessier, you think him evil....though due to a fatal flaw he could be an evil dude

and due to your scan of lassr, you think good...although he can still be evil....

but your still chasing stessier..and dont see anything funny about lassr.

interesting.

not biting on stessier...he's been vibing good to me.

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