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Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:59 am
by Daehawk
After thinking off and on all day about a new Trek Ive come to only one conclusion.......other than a Klingon crew show there could be only one new Trek that would rock the socks.....one all about Shran and his ship. Shran and crew enter a new sector of space to 'pacify' it for Andoria . With all the Federation troubles that would come of it...a cloak and dagger Shran and crew.

So what do you pink skins think of that?

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Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 2:22 am
by Kraken
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Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:24 am
by Daehawk
Ive always thought there were 3 Star Trek shows Id watch...

Riker and the USS Titan
Sulu and the USS Excelsior
Klingon ship and crew conquering a new area of space

But now theres a 4th one that Id give up all the others for....

Shran and the crew of the Kumari.

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Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 2:07 pm
by Grifman
Daehawk wrote:Ive always thought there were 3 Star Trek shows Id watch...

Riker and the USS Titan
Sulu and the USS Excelsior
Klingon ship and crew conquering a new area of space

But now theres a 4th one that Id give up all the others for....

Shran and the crew of the Kumari.

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I don't think anything more of this than when you first suggested it two posts above. :)

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:05 pm
by Defiant
Trailer

Pretty much just shows us the ship. Which looks similar to the prototype for one in the aborted Phase 2 series (that was replaced with the motion picture):

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In the trailer, the bottom does look a bit like one of the old style klingon or maybe romulan ship from TOS?

It looks ugly and clunky, IMO.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:17 pm
by rshetts2
Damn, that ship looks like the illegitimate rape child from the unholy union of a Bird of Prey and the Enterprise D.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:28 pm
by Moat_Man
Interesting. There is a lot not to like in that trailer, the ship aesthetic, the militaristic soundtrack. This could be a disaster.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:51 pm
by Blackhawk
My first thoughts:

~That music, had I heard it without context, I'd have pegged as Klingon music.
~That looks like a Klingon Battlecruiser - a lot like a Klingon Battlecruiser.

I wonder if that is coincidence?

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:05 pm
by Rumpy
That ship is actually based on an old Ralph McQuarrie design. Looks promising, but makes me wonder if this is supposed to take place around Enterprise's time given how clunky it is.

Now to hope that this can be seen outside of CBS All Access for those not fortunate enough to be able to access it.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:08 pm
by Isgrimnur
If you're not US or Canadian, apparently Netflix will have it.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:13 pm
by Rumpy
Well, as far as I'm aware, CBS All-Access isn't available in Canada, is it?

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:26 pm
by Isgrimnur
Wiki says Bell Media for our hat-dwellers.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:29 pm
by Rumpy
Which likely means CraveTV, yet another service.

[TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:54 pm
by Isgrimnur
Should be broadcast on Space or Z, from what the wiki says. On my phone, or I'd provide links.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:20 am
by Defiant
Rumpy wrote:That ship is actually based on an old Ralph McQuarrie design. Looks promising, but makes me wonder if this is supposed to take place around Enterprise's time given how clunky it is.
IIRC, it's supposed to take place between the TOS movies and TNG.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:52 am
by Daehawk
Does look like a cross between Fed and Klingon. Also looks a lot like the Vulcan IDIC symbol.

I cant believe so many people are already bitching online. Well ya I can. Buncha asshats. Hope they dont watch cause I dont want it canned before it gets good. Trek fans are such jaded asholes. Not a bit like they used to be.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:58 am
by Blackhawk
Do you not remember the hubbub when they announced that the new Captain of the Enterprise would be a bald guy, and that there would be a Klingon and a robot on the bridge?

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:09 am
by stessier
It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:15 am
by hepcat
I'm guessing it will show up on Netflix for the U.S. and Canada. It will be at least one season behind, but I bet that's part of the deal they made.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:17 am
by El Guapo
stessier wrote:It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.
Seems like the sensible thing would be to wait for the entire first season to be out, sign up, watch, and then unsubscribe.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:23 am
by stessier
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.
Seems like the sensible thing would be to wait for the entire first season to be out, sign up, watch, and then unsubscribe.
Are you sure it will work that way? For their TV programs, you only get 7 episodes as a subscriber - a situation which fuels most of my rage over the product.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:47 am
by El Guapo
stessier wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.
Seems like the sensible thing would be to wait for the entire first season to be out, sign up, watch, and then unsubscribe.
Are you sure it will work that way? For their TV programs, you only get 7 episodes as a subscriber - a situation which fuels most of my rage over the product.
Wait, they only give you access to seven episodes (presumably the most recent episodes) of each series? How does that make any sense? Presumably if you fall more than seven episodes behind you have to wait for the DVD or something?

Do we know how many episodes are going to be in a season for the show? Even with that dumb restriction, I would assume that it would make sense to wait until week 8, sign up, watch episodes 1-7, then watch the rest the next month. Depending on the number of episodes you could probably get it done with two or possibly three months of subscribing, so $14 or $21 for the season, which isn't crazy for a show. If it's any good.

But anyway for whatever reason I find myself mostly indifferent, as I'm not dying for new Star Trek at the moment.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:58 am
by rshetts2
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.
Seems like the sensible thing would be to wait for the entire first season to be out, sign up, watch, and then unsubscribe.
Are you sure it will work that way? For their TV programs, you only get 7 episodes as a subscriber - a situation which fuels most of my rage over the product.
Wait, they only give you access to seven episodes (presumably the most recent episodes) of each series? How does that make any sense? Presumably if you fall more than seven episodes behind you have to wait for the DVD or something?

Do we know how many episodes are going to be in a season for the show? Even with that dumb restriction, I would assume that it would make sense to wait until week 8, sign up, watch episodes 1-7, then watch the rest the next month. Depending on the number of episodes you could probably get it done with two or possibly three months of subscribing, so $14 or $21 for the season, which isn't crazy for a show. If it's any good.

But anyway for whatever reason I find myself mostly indifferent, as I'm not dying for new Star Trek at the moment.
If its going to cost $21 you may as well wait for the blu-ray and buy the series.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:17 am
by stessier
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
stessier wrote:It's a shame it's only on CBS All Access. I do not like the platform and certainly won't be paying $7/month just for this show.
Seems like the sensible thing would be to wait for the entire first season to be out, sign up, watch, and then unsubscribe.
Are you sure it will work that way? For their TV programs, you only get 7 episodes as a subscriber - a situation which fuels most of my rage over the product.
Wait, they only give you access to seven episodes (presumably the most recent episodes) of each series? How does that make any sense? Presumably if you fall more than seven episodes behind you have to wait for the DVD or something?
Yes, "All Access" is very nearly false advertising in my opinion. What they really mean is "here is ALL we are going to allow you to ACCESS. And yeah, I'm pretty sure they are trying to protect DVD sales.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:36 am
by Blackhawk
It sounds like they're trying to introduce more of the population to torrents. If so, it has been a brilliant campaign.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:50 am
by rshetts2
What this is, is the growing pains of the new direction of entertainment. Cable is dying, its a slow death for sure but streaming is taking over the market. Eventually cable will fade. Right now you have all of the various channels and networks trying to find how they are going to get their slice of the pie. CBS has been particularly aggressive in this area as they withhold their tv series from other services like Hulu, Netflix and Prime, and have set up their own plan to monetize their properties. It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and if the other networks follow suit. Its no coincidence that they chose a strong brand franchise to use as a test series for their pay stream.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:57 am
by Daehawk
I quit tv all together 2 years ago. I dont watch anything at all and no plans to. My wife had cable removed but she has sub'd to netflix, hulu, and cbs...something Id never do.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:30 pm
by Blackhawk
rshetts2 wrote:It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and if the other networks follow suit.
I think they're in for a rude awakening.

As odd as it sounds for me (as a fan of all Trek for ~40 years) to say it, I hope the new Trek fails, as I don't want to see their business model succeed.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:16 pm
by tjg_marantz
Let me pay 100$ a month for popcorn time. You'll get Moe of my money than your getting now.

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Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:20 pm
by Jeff V
Blackhawk wrote:
rshetts2 wrote:It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and if the other networks follow suit.
I think they're in for a rude awakening.

As odd as it sounds for me (as a fan of all Trek for ~40 years) to say it, I hope the new Trek fails, as I don't want to see their business model succeed.
Same here, as much as I'd like me some new Star Trek, I won't be extorted by CBS to pay for their service, and I'm pretty certain they will quickly need to cut their losses by making it available elsewhere. Of course, by then the show might be bagged due to lack of interest, but at least networks won't be inclined to jack us around like this again.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:37 am
by Kraken
Jeff V wrote:
Blackhawk wrote:
rshetts2 wrote:It will be interesting to see how this all plays out and if the other networks follow suit.
I think they're in for a rude awakening.

As odd as it sounds for me (as a fan of all Trek for ~40 years) to say it, I hope the new Trek fails, as I don't want to see their business model succeed.
Same here, as much as I'd like me some new Star Trek, I won't be extorted by CBS to pay for their service, and I'm pretty certain they will quickly need to cut their losses by making it available elsewhere. Of course, by then the show might be bagged due to lack of interest, but at least networks won't be inclined to jack us around like this again.
I've probably said this before, but just getting streaming TV would require a personal tech revolution beginning with a new television. We will inevitably overhaul our TV situation someday, but not for this. I'm patient. I can wait for DVDs or cable rebroadcast.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 11:52 am
by stessier
Not that I am advocating it, but CBS All Access is available on Roku. The Roku Lite connects to the TV via component cables and wirelessly to your computer. If you can watch a DVD, you should be able to stream. It runs about $50.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:01 pm
by hepcat
But you still have to pay the subscription price for CBS All Access, right?

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:14 pm
by stessier
Yes, still have to pay for it. Just pointing out that the technological "leap" was more of a "step". :)

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:34 pm
by hepcat
You're preaching the choir with me. I love my Roku 4. I was trying to use the Android TV that's on my new Sony tv, and it just sucks balls. So I went back to using my Roku.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:03 pm
by Jeff V
Kraken wrote:
I've probably said this before, but just getting streaming TV would require a personal tech revolution beginning with a new television. We will inevitably overhaul our TV situation someday, but not for this. I'm patient. I can wait for DVDs or cable rebroadcast.
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Yeah, it's probably time for you to upgrade.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:08 pm
by Kraken
stessier wrote:Not that I am advocating it, but CBS All Access is available on Roku. The Roku Lite connects to the TV via component cables and wirelessly to your computer. If you can watch a DVD, you should be able to stream. It runs about $50.
Most of the holes in my tv already have wires going into them. I do have one set of "Component" sockets left open though. I thought those streaming boxes needed HDMI -- that's what their setup page shows -- but if the Roku can really use the connections that I have available I might go for it.

Ah, I see: "Roku 1 comes standard with Composite cables just in case your TV doesn't have HDMI®. For full HD, you'll need HDMI® though."

Theoretically I might be able to give Roku my HDMI input and switch whatever's using it now (my DVD player? cable box? IDK) to something else. But this is where it starts turning into the overhaul that I don't want to do.

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:40 pm
by Scuzz
hepcat wrote:I'm guessing it will show up on Netflix for the U.S. and Canada. It will be at least one season behind, but I bet that's part of the deal they made.
How much faith do you have in a show, or how much money do you put behind a show, if those are the platforms for it's being viewed?

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:46 pm
by Daehawk
For Netflix members you can watch the new Star Trek within 24 of it showing on tv.

https://media.netflix.com/en/press-rele ... -the-world

Re: [TV] New Star Trek Show in Development?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:52 pm
by Zaxxon
Not in the USA.