Trump vs. Biden - the Final Showdown

[Zaxxon]

Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

[coopasonic]

Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

[Zaxxon]

Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

Yeah, TX is nuts.

As is *checks notes* Montana, at 56%. Colorado is at 43.3, and we're a 'voting early is the norm' state.

[Grifman]

Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

Yeah, TX is nuts.

Could the Democrat dream of a blue TX be coming true? If turn out is much higher than 2016 does that mean minorities, urban and suburban voters are turning out enough to offset small town, rural Trump Texas?

[Hyena]

So pissed right now.

I promised myself many years ago that I would never vote against someone, I would never vote for the lesser of two evils. So, of course, I sat out the first two elections I was eligible to vote in because I didn't like either candidate. Then in 2008 I voted for Obama because I thought I saw a real chance for change. My wife and I moved to San Antonio in '09 and in my ignorance I neglected to register down here. By 2012 and 2016, I had grown rather jaded and frustrated with politicians, so I opted not to vote again either time.

Now comes today. I took the day off work to go vote, and when I showed up I expected some form of hoop-jumping. But imagine my surprise when they told me not only did they not have a record of me being registered up in my former county, that I'm not even in the system as a registered voter at all.

What the hell do I do now? The one time I feel like I could actually do some good and play a role in a change I really believe in, I can't. Any advice?

[El Guapo]

Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

Yeah, TX is nuts.

Could the Democrat dream of a blue TX be coming true? If turn out is much higher than 2016 does that mean minorities, urban and suburban voters are turning out enough to offset small town, rural Trump Texas?

Polling generally points towards Texas being a toss-up (538 currently gives Biden a 48.4% chance of winning). I don't know that turnout numbers really impact that much. Odds are (in the absence of shenanigans) that Trump will eke out a narrow win in TX, but Biden has a real shot there.

[Zaxxon]

Now comes today. I took the day off work to go vote, and when I showed up I expected some form of hoop-jumping. But imagine my surprise when they told me not only did they not have a record of me being registered up in my former county, that I'm not even in the system as a registered voter at all.

What the hell do I do now? The one time I feel like I could actually do some good and play a role in a change I really believe in, I can't. Any advice?

I think you're screwed. Sucks, but this is why checking your voter registration during the registration window is so important. Lesson learned for next time.

[El Guapo]

So pissed right now.

I promised myself many years ago that I would never vote against someone, I would never vote for the lesser of two evils. So, of course, I sat out the first two elections I was eligible to vote in because I didn't like either candidate. Then in 2008 I voted for Obama because I thought I saw a real chance for change. My wife and I moved to San Antonio in '09 and in my ignorance I neglected to register down here. By 2012 and 2016, I had grown rather jaded and frustrated with politicians, so I opted not to vote again either time.

Now comes today. I took the day off work to go vote, and when I showed up I expected some form of hoop-jumping. But imagine my surprise when they told me not only did they not have a record of me being registered up in my former county, that I'm not even in the system as a registered voter at all.

What the hell do I do now? The one time I feel like I could actually do some good and play a role in a change I really believe in, I can't. Any advice?

Unfortunately, you're probably out of luck. The internet says that Texas's voter registration deadline was October 5th. The Texas Democrats appear to be running a voter assistance hotline at 844-TX-VOTES, so I would try that, as well as the Texas Secretary of State's office.

If it's a mistake or a records issue, then you may be ok. But I know some states (I know Ohio does this, blessed by our conservative judiciary) wipe voter records if they don't vote in one or two elections, and I wouldn't be shocked if TX does that; if so, you're probably out of luck.

But I'd call the Texas Democrats and the Secretary of State's office and see what you can find out.

[Zaxxon]

But I'd call the Texas Democrats and the Secretary of State's office and see what you can find out.

+1.

[Defiant]

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

Just to put a little bit of a dampener on Texas, in 2016, Texas had one of the lowest turnout of any state, with ~51% turnout. so it's easier now to reach 65% of their 2016 total earlier than it would be for other states.

Still very impressive, though.

[Paingod]

One thing has been consistently bugging me. Since when did candidates' family become fair game?

When the GOP fully embraced winning at all costs. Nothing else matters except to win. It's not about policy or norms anymore; it's winner takes all.

The old ethics question:

You're driving a train down a track. Ahead there's a split and you can choose which way to go. On one track is a single person that you know and love. On the other track there are 5 people you don't know at all. Which track do you choose to go down?

GOP Answer: Whichever one will get me to my destination the fastest.

[Jaymann]

One thing has been consistently bugging me. Since when did candidates' family become fair game?

When the GOP fully embraced winning at all costs. Nothing else matters except to win. It's not about policy or norms anymore; it's winner takes all.

The old ethics question:

You're driving a train down a track. Ahead there's a split and you can choose which way to go. On one track is a single person that you know and love. On the other track there are 5 people you don't know at all. Which track do you choose to go down?

GOP Answer: Whichever one will get me to my destination the fastest.

Whichever has the least insurance.

[malchior]

One thing has been consistently bugging me. Since when did candidates' family become fair game?

When the GOP fully embraced winning at all costs. Nothing else matters except to win. It's not about policy or norms anymore; it's winner takes all.

The old ethics question:

You're driving a train down a track. Ahead there's a split and you can choose which way to go. On one track is a single person that you know and love. On the other track there are 5 people you don't know at all. Which track do you choose to go down?

GOP Answer: Whichever one will get me to my destination the fastest.

Whichever has the least insurance.

Are any of those 5 not white?

[Blackhawk]

Does one route have a cheaper fare?

[Zaxxon]

No one's going to point out that driving down a train track is an exceptionally bad idea?

Although, who are we kidding--the GOP wouldn't be on a train in the first place.

[Jaymann]

Drivin' that train, high on Regeneron.

[stessier]

I assume that the 60 Minutes show on Sunday is going to have the interview and whatever else? I haven't watched 60 Minutes in many years, but I'm really going to have to tune in for that.

I've heard Trump posted the unedited interview on Facebook. I'm not on Facebook, so can't confirm or deny.

[Octavious]

It's true and he's even worse than you would imagine he would be. She dared to do things like follow up on his bs answers. That fn evil lady!

[Defiant]

The old ethics question:

You're driving a train down a track. Ahead there's a split and you can choose which way to go. On one track is a single person that you know and love. On the other track there are 5 people you don't know at all. Which track do you choose to go down?

GOP Answer: Whichever one will get me to my destination the fastest.

Or possibly: Go down one track, then back up and go down the other track.

[LordMortis]

One thing has been consistently bugging me. Since when did candidates' family become fair game?

When the GOP fully embraced winning at all costs. Nothing else matters except to win. It's not about policy or norms anymore; it's winner takes all.

The old ethics question:

You're driving a train down a track. Ahead there's a split and you can choose which way to go. On one track is a single person that you know and love. On the other track there are 5 people you don't know at all. Which track do you choose to go down?

GOP Answer: Whichever one will get me to my destination the fastest.

You have a few consideration before answering:

What can my loved one do for me vs what can those five people do for me?
Who else can accountability be shifted to for each direction?
What costs me less?
Is there a way to make money off my choice? Which makes me more?
Why did Obama and the Clinton foundation put these child pornographers on the track anyway, where their justifiable deaths in the execution of law and order will damage this great GOP train we had to fix that has never been better and supports the clean coal industry?

[Zarathud]

Proceed down the track with the most bodies so the automatic gun turrets on the train roof have fewer targets. Only poor people stand on the tracks instead of buying tickets.

[ImLawBoy]

You guys are making this too complicated. Decouple the train while going over the switch and simultaneously throw the switch so you can get both tracks the most efficiently.

[Defiant]

[Isgrimnur]

[Holman]

https://twitter.com/th3j35t3r/status/13 ... 24352?s=20

[Alefroth]

I'm sure we will hear about it in the debate tonight.

[malchior]

LOL - came here to post that Blackberry thing. This is so brazenly pathetic. They are lapping this bullshit up on the right of course.

In other news, a columnist from the WSJ has gone whole hog in on this stuff including the Tony Bobulinski stuff. Trumpism at its best.

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/ ... 5850196994

[Holman]

Everyone's pointing out that Strassel is an opinion-page columnist, not an actual reporter.

[Octavious]

That has to be a doctored screenshot. What I don't get is how anyone would take pictures of text messages and run that as a story of proof. This is like the f'n bloodhound gang running around trying to solve a crime.

[malchior]

Everyone's pointing out that Strassel is an opinion-page columnist, not an actual reporter.

Yeah it still should be embarrassing for the WSJ editorial page but then again it is pretty much in self-parody mode anyway.

[Isgrimnur]

That has to be a doctored screenshot. What I don't get is how anyone would take pictures of text messages and run that as a story of proof. This is like the f'n bloodhound gang running around trying to solve a crime.

That's not fair. The Bloodhound Gang actually solved their crimes.

[Grifman]

Everyone's pointing out that Strassel is an opinion-page columnist, not an actual reporter.

Strassel is just plain awful. She's been a Trump apologist from the get go, with no attempt at even trying to appear even handed or unbiased in any way. I love the WSJ and have considered re-upping my subscription but I won't due to their editorial support of Trump under Murdoch. The old WSJ would have never bowed the knee to Trump and it is very sad.

[malchior]

That has to be a doctored screenshot. What I don't get is how anyone would take pictures of text messages and run that as a story of proof. This is like the f'n bloodhound gang running around trying to solve a crime.

That's not fair. The Bloodhound Gang actually solved their crimes.

I think he meant the Bloodhound Gang who sang The Ballad of Chasey Lain.

[hepcat]

Trump seems almost sedate tonight. It’s like he’s resigned to losing. Of course it may just be wishful thinking on my part.

Biden’s little chuckles at Trump’s lies has got to be bugging the shit out of Trump though.

[Alefroth]

Trump is doing better tonight, but so is Biden, now that he can actually speak.

[Octavious]

Ya this is going to be a draw. Which in a way is a win for Trump.

[Octavious]

At least Biden directly said the laptop story is bs finally. There's no way that Trump's supporters come out of this not crowing how awesome he is though. This was totally pointless as expected.

[Defiant]

I've watched the last 15 or so minutes. Much more sane than the last debate (Faint praise, I know).

I'll give Trump one thing - he does indeed know more about wind, because he's such a blowhard.

[Octavious]

Biden just gave them the most juicy soundbite about oil. Come on man!

[Defiant]

Trump's "Oooooh!"'s while Biden was talking.