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Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:32 pm
by silverjon
LordMortis wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:11:01 Card Ops: Priority 1 ticket - we need to get marketing a contact list for education purposes.
The squeaky wheel starts out by getting the grease but people who become recognizably abuse high priority neediness begin to have all of their needs treated as low priority. And people who recognizably abuse high priority needs and demand read receipts on their emails eventually see me not even opening their emails until I have time to address them as low priority need. They've taken my ability to assess the situation as exceptional out of my hands.
This applies just as much to regulatory work as to IT, if it makes anyone feel better.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:58 pm
by Zarathud
At which point the illegally copied files get deleted. I'm certain DMCA violations are against company policy. Do you think he'll press the complaint?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 2:59 pm
by stessier
Zarathud wrote:At which point the illegally copied files get deleted. I'm certain DMCA violations are against company policy. Do you think he'll press the complaint?
They could be legal rips for personal use.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:01 pm
by Zarathud
Personal use on a company computer? I'm betting any in-house counsel will want no part of that argument.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:07 pm
by stessier
Zarathud wrote:Personal use on a company computer? I'm betting any in-house counsel will want no part of that argument.
Ok, but that's different than saying it's a DMCA violation.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:14 pm
by Unagi
Kraken wrote:Seems like they could install larger turbines in the pipes that bring water down from water tanks into the grid. The water pressure there must be awesome, and they could probably recoup all or most of the electricity needed to boost that water in the first place.
Um, no

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 3:33 pm
by Max Peck
Isgrimnur wrote: :ninja:
No worries, the internet always forgets. Well, in Europe it does...

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 4:32 pm
by stessier
Max Peck wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote: :ninja:
No worries, the internet always forgets. Well, in Europe it does...
As will we if France gets it's way.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:51 pm
by LawBeefaroni
Unagi wrote:
Kraken wrote:Seems like they could install larger turbines in the pipes that bring water down from water tanks into the grid. The water pressure there must be awesome, and they could probably recoup all or most of the electricity needed to boost that water in the first place.
Um, no
Killjoy. I bet you poo-poo perpetual motion machines too.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 9:58 pm
by Kraken
LawBeefaroni wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Kraken wrote:Seems like they could install larger turbines in the pipes that bring water down from water tanks into the grid. The water pressure there must be awesome, and they could probably recoup all or most of the electricity needed to boost that water in the first place.
Um, no
Killjoy. I bet you poo-poo perpetual motion machines too.
OK, not ALL, obviously, but a pretty decent fraction. Although the more I think about it the more sense it makes to recover the energy farther downline, where gravity is making a bigger contribution. Anyway, using piped water to generate electricity, even if only to power my water meter, never occurred to me. This is why we have engineers, society's oompa-loompas.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 10:01 pm
by Holman
I've always known that water powered the water meter, and I'm an English major.

(However, it's also true that the water treatment plant in Hattiesburg, Mississippi is named after my uncle.)

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:27 am
by El Guapo
I just looked over the resumes for two interns that are starting in a couple weeks. One of them had an 'interests' section of his resume. Under that section, he listed "Movies and TV Series" as an interest.

What are the odds - me too!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:37 am
by LordMortis
Remember when I accidentally emailed a guy being terminated about my responsibilities related to his termination? I've had my first termination responsibility since then just now. I now apparently have a brand new neurosis. When I email the confirmation of responsibilities I experience anxiety to the point of my heart fluttering.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:42 am
by coopasonic
LordMortis wrote:Remember when I accidentally emailed a guy being terminated about my responsibilities related to his termination? I've had my first termination responsibility since then just now. I now apparently have a brand new neurosis. When I email the confirmation of responsibilities I experience anxiety to the point of my heart fluttering.
Just wait until you get the request to terminate your own access.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:48 am
by AWS260
Kraken wrote:
LawBeefaroni wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Kraken wrote:Seems like they could install larger turbines in the pipes that bring water down from water tanks into the grid. The water pressure there must be awesome, and they could probably recoup all or most of the electricity needed to boost that water in the first place.
Um, no
Killjoy. I bet you poo-poo perpetual motion machines too.
OK, not ALL, obviously, but a pretty decent fraction. Although the more I think about it the more sense it makes to recover the energy farther downline, where gravity is making a bigger contribution. Anyway, using piped water to generate electricity, even if only to power my water meter, never occurred to me. This is why we have engineers, society's oompa-loompas.
Pumped-storage hydroelectric plants, designed by oompa-loompas specifically for this purpose and operating on a vast scale, have energy efficiency of between 70-80%, Wikipedia tells me. Presumably a small-scale solution would be much less efficient.

If you're ever in Scotland, you can take a tour of one of these plants at Ben Cruachan. It's pretty fun.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:56 am
by hepcat
El Guapo wrote:I just looked over the resumes for two interns that are starting in a couple weeks. One of them had an 'interests' section of his resume. Under that section, he listed "Movies and TV Series" as an interest.

What are the odds - me too!
Are you still asking them "Who run Bartertown?" while sitting on the shoulders of your previous intern during your first interview?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 9:59 am
by El Guapo
hepcat wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I just looked over the resumes for two interns that are starting in a couple weeks. One of them had an 'interests' section of his resume. Under that section, he listed "Movies and TV Series" as an interest.

What are the odds - me too!
Are you still asking them "Who run Bartertown?" while sitting on the shoulders of your previous intern during your first interview?
I mean, that's just common sense.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 10:07 am
by Rip
LordMortis wrote:Remember when I accidentally emailed a guy being terminated about my responsibilities related to his termination? I've had my first termination responsibility since then just now. I now apparently have a brand new neurosis. When I email the confirmation of responsibilities I experience anxiety to the point of my heart fluttering.
Yea, I wanted to let you know I haven't been getting paid.....

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:42 am
by Remus West
Yesterday I completed my adoption of my step-daughter. :D

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:47 am
by hepcat
Excellent, congrats man!

Let the board gaming indoctrination commence!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:47 am
by ImLawBoy
Congrats!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:48 am
by Daehawk
hepcat wrote:
El Guapo wrote:I just looked over the resumes for two interns that are starting in a couple weeks. One of them had an 'interests' section of his resume. Under that section, he listed "Movies and TV Series" as an interest.

What are the odds - me too!
Are you still asking them "Who run Bartertown?" while sitting on the shoulders of your previous intern during your first interview?
BWAHAHAHAHhaa

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:48 am
by Daehawk
Remus West wrote:Yesterday I completed my adoption of my step-daughter. :D
You da man West..you da man! Gratz...wild wild West.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 11:51 am
by AWS260
Congratulations!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:01 pm
by The Meal
Remus West wrote:Yesterday I completed my adoption of my daughter. :D
FTFY. And congratulations!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:09 pm
by Skinypupy
Remus West wrote:Yesterday I completed my adoption of my step-daughter. :D
That's awesome, congrats Remus

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:42 pm
by GreenGoo
Holman wrote:I've always known that water powered the water meter, and I'm an English major.
I did not know that, and I was an engineering major. A *mechanical* engineering major. :oops:

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 12:44 pm
by GreenGoo
hepcat wrote: Are you still asking them "Who run Bartertown?" while sitting on the shoulders of your previous intern during your first interview?
Some days you are seriously "on".

:clap:

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:05 pm
by El Guapo
Remus West wrote:Yesterday I completed my adoption of my step-daughter. :D
Congrats!

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 1:36 pm
by LordMortis
Remus West wrote:Yesterday I completed my adoption of my step-daughter. :D
:occasion-balloons:

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:24 pm
by Isgrimnur
Isgrimnur wrote:I'm attempting to put together an unofficial IT Three Margarita Lunch team building exercise for the Friday before Memorial Day. We all take half day vacations, go to lunch together, enjoy some adult beverages, and get the long weekend started early. Woe to the yet-to-be-hired IT support guy that will get to man the phones by himself on that day.
Starting to catch heat from the upper management regarding tomorrow's event. My arguments are that a) this was not arranged on company time, or even via company e-mail and b) everyone that will be attending submitted their time-off requests through the proper channels. If there were staffing concerns, they were certainly able to see the requests and make appropriate decisions. My boss couldn't care less, but the other two could certainly make noise to the Chief about it.

There will be two SysAdmins, the help desk IT support tech, core system intern, a junior programmer, two VPs, and probably the Tech Support Mgr. All of the staff will be <20 minutes away for lunch and a good portion after, and are all reachable by cell.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:30 pm
by LordMortis
Isgrimnur wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:I'm attempting to put together an unofficial IT Three Margarita Lunch team building exercise for the Friday before Memorial Day. We all take half day vacations, go to lunch together, enjoy some adult beverages, and get the long weekend started early. Woe to the yet-to-be-hired IT support guy that will get to man the phones by himself on that day.
Starting to catch heat from the upper management regarding tomorrow's event. My arguments are that a) this was not arranged on company time, or even via company e-mail and b) everyone that will be attending submitted their time-off requests through the proper channels. If there were staffing concerns, they were certainly able to see the requests and make appropriate decisions. My boss couldn't care less, but the other two could certainly make noise to the Chief about it.

There will be two SysAdmins, the help desk IT support tech, core system intern, a junior programmer, two VPs, and probably the Tech Support Mgr. All of the staff will be <20 minutes away for lunch and a good portion after, and are all reachable by cell.
Don't forget the silent C. How much work really gets done after lunch before a holiday weekend? This is so accepted as a work practice in my office that they often tell us to go home at 15:30 if there is no work that needs to be finished before the weekend.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:32 pm
by coopasonic
Isgrimnur wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:I'm attempting to put together an unofficial IT Three Margarita Lunch team building exercise for the Friday before Memorial Day. We all take half day vacations, go to lunch together, enjoy some adult beverages, and get the long weekend started early. Woe to the yet-to-be-hired IT support guy that will get to man the phones by himself on that day.
Starting to catch heat from the upper management regarding tomorrow's event. My arguments are that a) this was not arranged on company time, or even via company e-mail and b) everyone that will be attending submitted their time-off requests through the proper channels. If there were staffing concerns, they were certainly able to see the requests and make appropriate decisions. My boss couldn't care less, but the other two could certainly make noise to the Chief about it.

There will be two SysAdmins, the help desk IT support tech, core system intern, a junior programmer, two VPs, and probably the Tech Support Mgr. All of the staff will be <20 minutes away for lunch and a good portion after, and are all reachable by cell.
My Director would be leading the charge and picking up the tab. You learn Java yet?

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:45 pm
by GreenGoo
Once your time off starts, it's none of their damn business what you do. If you keep your passes hidden and/or don't wear anything easily associated with the company, they don't have a leg to stand on. Of course that often doesn't matter to people who think they have a god given right to have an opinion on your personal activities just because you report to them during business hours, and if they want to make your life suck, they can. If they are petty douchenozzles.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:51 pm
by coopasonic
I know where I work being up front about what you were doing would be seen in a much more positive light. Technically correct may be the best kind of correct but with humans you really have to be aware that what you are doing could be seen as subversive.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:51 pm
by Isgrimnur
coopasonic wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:I'm attempting to put together an unofficial IT Three Margarita Lunch team building exercise for the Friday before Memorial Day. We all take half day vacations, go to lunch together, enjoy some adult beverages, and get the long weekend started early. Woe to the yet-to-be-hired IT support guy that will get to man the phones by himself on that day.
Starting to catch heat from the upper management regarding tomorrow's event. My arguments are that a) this was not arranged on company time, or even via company e-mail and b) everyone that will be attending submitted their time-off requests through the proper channels. If there were staffing concerns, they were certainly able to see the requests and make appropriate decisions. My boss couldn't care less, but the other two could certainly make noise to the Chief about it.

There will be two SysAdmins, the help desk IT support tech, core system intern, a junior programmer, two VPs, and probably the Tech Support Mgr. All of the staff will be <20 minutes away for lunch and a good portion after, and are all reachable by cell.
My Director would be leading the charge and picking up the tab. You learn Java yet?

...no...

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:21 pm
by GreenGoo
I have limited Java experience, but I put it on my resume anyway. It's not hard, and if the job requires a DEEP knowledge of Java, you can either learn as you go (since you're an experienced developer) or they are looking for people with 30 years of Java experience despite Java having been created in 1995.

And holy hell, I started writing 20 years Java experience as an impossible amount of Java experience, only to realize that, nope, Java has been a thing for 21 years. Although I'm not sure when it really took off though.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:21 pm
by LordMortis
GreenGoo wrote: If you keep your passes hidden and/or don't wear anything easily associated with the company, they don't have a leg to stand on.

Our employee handbook in 1998 actually forbade you from wearing company swag in strip clubs (and brothels IIRC) I haven't read it since.
coopasonic wrote:I know where I work being up front about what you were doing would be seen in a much more positive light. Technically correct may be the best kind of correct but with humans you really have to be aware that what you are doing could be seen as subversive.
We've been chastised for having non sanctioned department lunches (on our own dimes) and I had a planned department picnic cancelled on me because the head of the office heard and believed it would cheapen the as of yet to be announced company picnic.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:37 pm
by GreenGoo
Did the company picnic ever materialize? It's hard to tell if you're talking in the present or past tense.

Re: Random randomness

Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 3:42 pm
by LordMortis
GreenGoo wrote:Did the company picnic ever materialize? It's hard to tell if you're talking in the present or past tense.
Not yet. There has been no official word that a company picnic is going to happen, so there's been no date set, no planners named, nothing.

Ah well. It worked out for the best anyway. My picnic would have been on the 10th. I have since come to find out I'm going to be on restriction from surgery leading up and including the 10th. An organizer who volunteered most of the oomph whom can't stand long or can't move anything is not exactly a good thing.