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Re: Random randomness
Woke up at 7am. Have someone for Craig's List coming at 10am (he replied to Emails close to 12AM, interesting). Been a different 24 hours but again, guess linear time is usually that way.
Funny how sometimes we recognize time and who is still awake (thinking of my third shift days) and other situations the times awake is a problem or causing issues not letting us sleep.
Funny how sometimes we recognize time and who is still awake (thinking of my third shift days) and other situations the times awake is a problem or causing issues not letting us sleep.
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I forgot to call it "a box of pure malevolent evil, a purveyor of
insidious insanity, an eldritch manifestation that would make Bill
Gates let out a low whistle of admiration," but it's all those, too.
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insidious insanity, an eldritch manifestation that would make Bill
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Re: Random randomness
Ive dissed Axl Rose for years now. Thought he sounded horrible. I also bemoaned the AC/DC choice of him. But I watched stuff he did this year...the reunion stuff with GnR in Vegas and with AC/DC and Ill be danged if he doesn't sound almost like the Axl of the early 90's. that guy has done some serious vocal coach work or something. Im actually impressed. Of course AC/DC no longer sounds like AC/DC with Brian and Malcolm gone but oh well.
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Re: Random randomness
Yea, wife brought home Jelly Babies from her business trip to England! Yummy!
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Whoo hoo, just realized Hell on Wheels started back up last night.
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Does Netflix have all the episodes before last night? I'm working my way through them but set my DVR to record the series so I can jump right in. It's a great series!hepcat wrote:Whoo hoo, just realized Hell on Wheels started back up last night.
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You're a fortunate man indeed. Speaking as a Brit, all American gummy candy pales in comparison to the splendiferous Jelly Babies. I pity those who've never tried 'em.$iljanus wrote:Yea, wife brought home Jelly Babies from her business trip to England! Yummy!
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Man Ive wanted those things since I used to watch Tom Baker as Dr Who give them out.
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I was about to say I doubt it as they're doing the split season thing again, but I just checked and they actually do have everything prior to last night's return available. Dig in!$iljanus wrote:Does Netflix have all the episodes before last night? I'm working my way through them but set my DVR to record the series so I can jump right in. It's a great series!hepcat wrote:Whoo hoo, just realized Hell on Wheels started back up last night.
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They're available on Amazon, so give 'em a whirl, and find out why the Fourth Doctor saw them as such a worthy intergalactic treat.Daehawk wrote:Man Ive wanted those things since I used to watch Tom Baker as Dr Who give them out.
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Yea all u can eat media for the win!hepcat wrote:I was about to say I doubt it as they're doing the split season thing again, but I just checked and they actually do have everything prior to last night's return available. Dig in!$iljanus wrote:Does Netflix have all the episodes before last night? I'm working my way through them but set my DVR to record the series so I can jump right in. It's a great series!hepcat wrote:Whoo hoo, just realized Hell on Wheels started back up last night.
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Re: Random randomness
When my wife brought them back on her first trip to England I completely went into nerd mode because of the Dr Who connection. After trying one for the first time it was candy nirvana.
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Those things are $6 plus shipping on Amazon..ouch.
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Re: Random randomness
The BFG published 1982, which I guess explains why it's a treasured part of my childhood and was my first thought on seeing that acronym in reference to shooting stuffs.Skinypupy wrote:I saw a trailer for it while the littles were watching Disney Channel on Saturday. My immediate thought was that there are a hell of a lot of old-school gamers who will be doing a double take when they see that title.Smoove_B wrote:It bothers me that Spielberg and Disney believe they can use "BFG" in a movie title and expect gamers to believe it stands for "Big Friendly Giant". No, no it does not.
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There can be only one...silverjon wrote:The BFG published 1982, which I guess explains why it's a treasured part of my childhood and was my first thought on seeing that acronym in reference to shooting stuffs.Skinypupy wrote:I saw a trailer for it while the littles were watching Disney Channel on Saturday. My immediate thought was that there are a hell of a lot of old-school gamers who will be doing a double take when they see that title.Smoove_B wrote:It bothers me that Spielberg and Disney believe they can use "BFG" in a movie title and expect gamers to believe it stands for "Big Friendly Giant". No, no it does not.
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I had no idea the children's book was that old. My first association with BFG is DOOM.I guess...good on them for taking it back?silverjon wrote:The BFG published 1982, which I guess explains why it's a treasured part of my childhood and was my first thought on seeing that acronym in reference to shooting stuffs.
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Clerks 2?Smoove_B wrote:I had no idea the children's book was that old. My first association with BFG is DOOM.I guess...good on them for taking it back?
Also DOOM was also the first I ever heard of BFG.
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I really had to stop myself from correcting my daughter when she said she wanted to see BFG and she told me it stood for Big Friendly Giant. Although I also thought it could have been a play off of Doom and meant Big Fucking Giant.silverjon wrote:The BFG published 1982, which I guess explains why it's a treasured part of my childhood and was my first thought on seeing that acronym in reference to shooting stuffs.Skinypupy wrote:I saw a trailer for it while the littles were watching Disney Channel on Saturday. My immediate thought was that there are a hell of a lot of old-school gamers who will be doing a double take when they see that title.Smoove_B wrote:It bothers me that Spielberg and Disney believe they can use "BFG" in a movie title and expect gamers to believe it stands for "Big Friendly Giant". No, no it does not.
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Re: Random randomness
LordMortis wrote:Clerks 2?
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Re: Random randomness
So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
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Yes. It's just an idiom for "common sense" or being practical-minded.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
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I figured it was some kind of folksy idiom. But why would horses be viewed as having great common sense? I mean, I guess if I was looking for insight on how best to chew grass or gallop or something, but otherwise I think the practical wisdom of horses would be limited.Max Peck wrote:Yes. It's just an idiom for "common sense" or being practical-minded.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
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Yes, but it was from Colonel Potter on MASH...so it is not exactly a hip new term.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
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I found an article that goes into the history of the phrase, but it doesn't really associate it with one specific origin aside from the indisputable fact that "horse <something>" is funnier than a mere <something>. I particularly like their concluding remark:El Guapo wrote:I figured it was some kind of folksy idiom. But why would horses be viewed as having great common sense? I mean, I guess if I was looking for insight on how best to chew grass or gallop or something, but otherwise I think the practical wisdom of horses would be limited.Max Peck wrote:Yes. It's just an idiom for "common sense" or being practical-minded.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
W. C. Fields wrote:Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
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We don't have a campaign going on but we're supposed to do the same thing, or at least have it visible "above the waist". Got busted in an elevator the other day when I had my hands full and stuck it in my back pocket after badging open the back door. SO sorry, dude.stessier wrote:Yes, but it was from Colonel Potter on MASH...so it is not exactly a hip new term.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."
Being old, was familiar with the saying but hadn't really thought about it too much. Thought this was interesting from the link Max posted:
Sound practical sense, as in She's got too much horse sense to believe his story. The exact allusion in this term, which dates from the mid-1800s, is disputed, since some regard horses as rather stupid. However, they tended to be viewed more positively in the American West, where the term originated.
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Phrases I had to deal with growing up in a small town in Ohio include:
1) You've got more problems than Carter has pills. For the longest time I thought folks were saying Cotter.
2) In response to asking someone the time, you'd receive the reply "Half past a monkey's ass, quarter to his balls". There's folksy and then there's just plain ridiculous. This was definitely the latter.
3) In response to asking for something, you'd get "You'll get nothing and you'll like it!". My little brother would then routinely reply, "You don't seriously think I'd like nothing, do you? I mean...it's nothing. You know that means...well...nothing, right?" (this would then go on for as long as my mother/father/relative could stand it and ended with them either walking off or asking Mattie to shut the hell up).
4) Who runs Bartertown! Oh...wait...that was a movie.
1) You've got more problems than Carter has pills. For the longest time I thought folks were saying Cotter.
2) In response to asking someone the time, you'd receive the reply "Half past a monkey's ass, quarter to his balls". There's folksy and then there's just plain ridiculous. This was definitely the latter.
3) In response to asking for something, you'd get "You'll get nothing and you'll like it!". My little brother would then routinely reply, "You don't seriously think I'd like nothing, do you? I mean...it's nothing. You know that means...well...nothing, right?" (this would then go on for as long as my mother/father/relative could stand it and ended with them either walking off or asking Mattie to shut the hell up).
4) Who runs Bartertown! Oh...wait...that was a movie.
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The truly wonderful thing about the internet is that it has made it possible to learn, in mere seconds, that there is a connection between the expression "more ___ than Carter has liver pills" (as a callow youth, I thought that meant that Jimmy had liver problems) and Trojan condoms.hepcat wrote:1) You've got more problems than Carter has pills. For the longest time I thought folks were saying Cotter.
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Ah, that's helpful - thanks! You appear to have tremendous horse sense.Max Peck wrote:I found an article that goes into the history of the phrase, but it doesn't really associate it with one specific origin aside from the indisputable fact that "horse <something>" is funnier than a mere <something>. I particularly like their concluding remark:El Guapo wrote:I figured it was some kind of folksy idiom. But why would horses be viewed as having great common sense? I mean, I guess if I was looking for insight on how best to chew grass or gallop or something, but otherwise I think the practical wisdom of horses would be limited.Max Peck wrote:Yes. It's just an idiom for "common sense" or being practical-minded.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."W. C. Fields wrote:Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
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My friends and said this all the time (still do), but we got it from Judge Smails in Caddyshack.hepcat wrote:3) In response to asking for something, you'd get "You'll get nothing and you'll like it!".
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It's tingling!El Guapo wrote:Ah, that's helpful - thanks! You appear to have tremendous horse sense.Max Peck wrote:I found an article that goes into the history of the phrase, but it doesn't really associate it with one specific origin aside from the indisputable fact that "horse <something>" is funnier than a mere <something>. I particularly like their concluding remark:El Guapo wrote:I figured it was some kind of folksy idiom. But why would horses be viewed as having great common sense? I mean, I guess if I was looking for insight on how best to chew grass or gallop or something, but otherwise I think the practical wisdom of horses would be limited.Max Peck wrote:Yes. It's just an idiom for "common sense" or being practical-minded.El Guapo wrote:So at work there's an effort to get employees to wear their ID badges on a lanyard, as opposed to (for example) keeping it in one's wallet. As part of this campaign there are a couple posters up around which tout wearing one's badge as "plain horse sense."
Has anyone heard this phrase before? Why would something being "plain horse sense" make it good thing? I've never watched a horse do something and then thought to myself, "well, if that horse is doing something, I should also do that thing."W. C. Fields wrote:Horse sense is the thing a horse has which keeps it from betting on people.
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This poor person now has to hear about "unacceptable dealies", to much snickering, often.an email I was copied on wrote:2 days blah blah blah...this is an unacceptable dealy.
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Oh come on, just because he didn't spell dealio correctly is no reason to get all up in his grill, yo.
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I have insufficient context to condemn or acquit the accused. It could be a fumbled "dealio" (slang for deal) or it could be a legitimate instance of "dealy" (a generic placeholder for <thingWhoseNameEludesMe>; synonymous with thingamabob, widget, gizmo, etc).
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I'm good with unacceptable dealy.
I'm playing some Borderlands Pre-sequel and hear the line "if I put the thingy in the thingy it would be awesome!". I was like "damn straight".
I'm playing some Borderlands Pre-sequel and hear the line "if I put the thingy in the thingy it would be awesome!". I was like "damn straight".
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Re: Random randomness
I found a source for the Initial D Fifth and Final Stages Anime and was binging. Turns out they did final episode by doing a call back... and I felt it's kind a cop out.
The story of Initial D is pretty simple: In Kunma, Japan, Takumi Fujiwara had been driving since middle school (illegally) helping his father's tofu shop delivering tofu daily, and became a master of the touge without trying. His father and two of his former competitors picked him to join a team called "Project D", with Fujiwara specialize in downhill races. Through the multiple seasons they battled all sorts of opponents, including one that destroyed his regular engine (but they got a racing engine to replace it, but then they didn't replace his tach to teach him shifting points change...)
The story of Initial D is pretty simple: In Kunma, Japan, Takumi Fujiwara had been driving since middle school (illegally) helping his father's tofu shop delivering tofu daily, and became a master of the touge without trying. His father and two of his former competitors picked him to join a team called "Project D", with Fujiwara specialize in downhill races. Through the multiple seasons they battled all sorts of opponents, including one that destroyed his regular engine (but they got a racing engine to replace it, but then they didn't replace his tach to teach him shifting points change...)
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Re: Random randomness
Today, the universe provided me with a new benchmark for unintentional irony: MOAR - Massachusetts Organization for Addiction Recovery.
At least, I think that's ironic... Damn it, Alanis Morrisette, you've permanently broken my irony detector.
At least, I think that's ironic... Damn it, Alanis Morrisette, you've permanently broken my irony detector.
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Re: Random randomness
I used to tell students that Alanis isn't irony. The song should be called "Isn't it unfortunate?" or "Doesn't it suck?"Max Peck wrote:Damn it, Alanis Morrisette, you've permanently broken my irony detector.
Now, though, the kids have just never heard it.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.