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Grifman wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:27 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:46 pm Everyone's pointing out that Strassel is an opinion-page columnist, not an actual reporter.

Strassel is just plain awful. She's been a Trump apologist from the get go, with no attempt at even trying to appear even handed or unbiased in any way. I love the WSJ and have considered re-upping my subscription but I won't due to their editorial support of Trump under Murdoch. The old WSJ would have never bowed the knee to Trump and it is very sad.

Octavious wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:40 pm It will take about 10 minutes before Fox News has a headline that says Joe wants to get rid of oil. So dumb of him..

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:00 pm

Grifman wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:27 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:46 pm Everyone's pointing out that Strassel is an opinion-page columnist, not an actual reporter.

Strassel is just plain awful. She's been a Trump apologist from the get go, with no attempt at even trying to appear even handed or unbiased in any way. I love the WSJ and have considered re-upping my subscription but I won't due to their editorial support of Trump under Murdoch. The old WSJ would have never bowed the knee to Trump and it is very sad.

Don't cancel just yet. It's absurd they are in this spot but still this is the right call from the other side of the firewall in the newsroom. Good on them to push back on it.

https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/statu ... 8020834306

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:53 pm

Grifman wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:46 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:11 pm

coopasonic wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:09 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:56 am

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:07 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:35 pm Currently in line to vote. This is the 2nd day that early voting has been open at this location, but it was open at another nearby location for the last two weeks. Nevertheless, it’s a pretty long line, especially for the middle of a Tuesday afternoon. I’ guessing it’ll take about an hour to get vote. But, all in all, seems pretty well organized and everyone is wearing a mask, so I can’t complain too much. And it’s encouraging to see so many people voting.

This morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

< 2 days later, and we're now at 33.2% of total 2016's vote count.

TX is at 65.5%! (8 days of early voting to go)

Yeah, TX is nuts.

Could the Democrat dream of a blue TX be coming true? If turn out is much higher than 2016 does that mean minorities, urban and suburban voters are turning out enough to offset small town, rural Trump Texas?

Polling generally points towards Texas being a toss-up (538 currently gives Biden a 48.4% chance of winning). I don't know that turnout numbers really impact that much. Odds are (in the absence of shenanigans) that Trump will eke out a narrow win in TX, but Biden has a real shot there.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:53 pm Polling generally points towards Texas being a toss-up (538 currently gives Biden a 48.4% chance of winning). I don't know that turnout numbers really impact that much. Odds are (in the absence of shenanigans) that Trump will eke out a narrow win in TX, but Biden has a real shot there.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:15 am

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:53 pm Polling generally points towards Texas being a toss-up (538 currently gives Biden a 48.4% chance of winning). I don't know that turnout numbers really impact that much. Odds are (in the absence of shenanigans) that Trump will eke out a narrow win in TX, but Biden has a real shot there.

And even if Trump ends up winning Texas, the closeness of the race has forced Trump to spend money in Texas. Biden has spent money there as well, but the Trump campaign is much more strapped for cash than the Biden campaign.

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:39 am Bernie Sanders makes a play for Biden Labor secretary

Personally, I'd rather have people like Warren (with her tons of thought out plans) than someone like Sanders (IMO, he's more style and less substance than Warren). But another issue is, does Sanders have the discipline to be in the cabinet? As the public faces of the administration, cabinet members aren't suppose to criticize the administration, and if there's one thing Sanders does a lot of is criticize.

The Meal wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 10:56 am Yep, TX for Biden would be running up the score.

Alefroth wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:02 pm If Biden won Texas, I'm guessing that would give Hegar good odds of winning as well.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:06 pm

Alefroth wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 2:02 pm If Biden won Texas, I'm guessing that would give Hegar good odds of winning as well.

FWIW Hegar seems to be several points behind Biden. Entirely plausible for Biden to eke out a narrow win in TX while Hegar loses.

stessier wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:02 pm There is a serious problem with their link.

Spoiler:

Clicking Learn More a second time next to Biden's Plan loads nothing.

stessier wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:02 pm There is a serious problem with their link.

Spoiler:

Clicking Learn More a second time next to Biden's Plan loads nothing.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:05 pm

stessier wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:02 pm There is a serious problem with their link.

Spoiler:

Clicking Learn More a second time next to Biden's Plan loads nothing.

Spoiler:

Goes here for me: https://joebiden.com/covid19/

Zaxxon wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:11 pm From the 'scare folks into voting, maybe, I think must be the plan?' corner:

https://twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/stat ... 74817?s=20

Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:15 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:11 pm From the 'scare folks into voting, maybe, I think must be the plan?' corner:

https://twitter.com/RepClayHiggins/stat ... 74817?s=20

What happened to your freedom? NOTHING, you stupid fuck, because it was a DREAM.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:47 am

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:39 am Bernie Sanders makes a play for Biden Labor secretary

Personally, I'd rather have people like Warren (with her tons of thought out plans) than someone like Sanders (IMO, he's more style and less substance than Warren). But another issue is, does Sanders have the discipline to be in the cabinet? As the public faces of the administration, cabinet members aren't suppose to criticize the administration, and if there's one thing Sanders does a lot of is criticize.

Vermont having a Republican governor is pretty fatal to Sanders getting a cabinet role. Per the article VT's Republican governor would get to appoint a replacement; even though a special election would be required within six months, that's an enormous amount of time when the Democrats couldn't count on holding Congress in 2023.

NickAragua wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:47 am

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:39 am Bernie Sanders makes a play for Biden Labor secretary

Personally, I'd rather have people like Warren (with her tons of thought out plans) than someone like Sanders (IMO, he's more style and less substance than Warren). But another issue is, does Sanders have the discipline to be in the cabinet? As the public faces of the administration, cabinet members aren't suppose to criticize the administration, and if there's one thing Sanders does a lot of is criticize.

Vermont having a Republican governor is pretty fatal to Sanders getting a cabinet role. Per the article VT's Republican governor would get to appoint a replacement; even though a special election would be required within six months, that's an enormous amount of time when the Democrats couldn't count on holding Congress in 2023.

Of course, I wouldn't really want Warren in the cabinet for the same reason. Baker might be a decent governor, but he's still got the R next to his name.

Fox News has reviewed emails from Bobulinski related to the venture — and they don't show that the elder Biden had business dealings with SinoHawk Holdings, or took any payments from them or the Chinese.

However, according to separate emails obtained by Fox News, Bobulinski states there are no other members besides Hunter Biden, Jim Biden, Rob Walker, James Gillar and Anthony Bobulinski, regarding the shareholding structure, and records for all stages of company negotiations show no role for Joe Biden.

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:15 pm

malchior wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:10 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 2:07 pmThis morning we crossed over 25% of the total 2016 vote count already cast in this election. Foregone conclusion that 2020's early voting count will set a new record by a wide margin. It'll be interesting to see the total including election day and how that total compares to 2016.

Yeah looks like we'll coast in around 35-40% early voting levels overall. It also means that the actual election day is incredibly important still.

I would take the over on that estimate, though your point (and Guap's, awesomely) stands.

Kraken wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:28 pm

NickAragua wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 4:27 pm

El Guapo wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:47 am

Defiant wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2020 11:39 am Bernie Sanders makes a play for Biden Labor secretary

Personally, I'd rather have people like Warren (with her tons of thought out plans) than someone like Sanders (IMO, he's more style and less substance than Warren). But another issue is, does Sanders have the discipline to be in the cabinet? As the public faces of the administration, cabinet members aren't suppose to criticize the administration, and if there's one thing Sanders does a lot of is criticize.

Vermont having a Republican governor is pretty fatal to Sanders getting a cabinet role. Per the article VT's Republican governor would get to appoint a replacement; even though a special election would be required within six months, that's an enormous amount of time when the Democrats couldn't count on holding Congress in 2023.

Of course, I wouldn't really want Warren in the cabinet for the same reason. Baker might be a decent governor, but he's still got the R next to his name.

IDK what he would do. He likes being governor (last week he shot down the idea of taking a cabinet post in Biden's WH) and probably wants a third term. Replacing Warren with any R would be career suicide. OTOH, if he names a D, why does he even keep that R next to his name?

Warren's valuable in the Senate, and would be doubly so in the majority. IDK how much she likes the job, though. By temperament, she's more of an administrator.

If Warren does get a tap on the shoulder, our legislature will probably change the succession law to take it out of Charlie's hands.

Jeff V wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:10 pm Bernie has been docile these past many months, so I imagine his future role is already determined. I hope the older party relics are given less visible appointments so younger folks have a chance to shine.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:37 pm

Jeff V wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:10 pm Bernie has been docile these past many months, so I imagine his future role is already determined. I hope the older party relics are given less visible appointments so younger folks have a chance to shine.

My wife just berated two of her cousins in Michigan who said they weren't voting because Bernie got screwed out of the nomination (again). She may have browbeaten them into voting, may not have. We're not sure.

Jeff V wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:08 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:37 pm

Jeff V wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:10 pm Bernie has been docile these past many months, so I imagine his future role is already determined. I hope the older party relics are given less visible appointments so younger folks have a chance to shine.

My wife just berated two of her cousins in Michigan who said they weren't voting because Bernie got screwed out of the nomination (again). She may have browbeaten them into voting, may not have. We're not sure.

What was their specific reason for claiming that? Bernie wasn't within a whiff of the nomination this time.