The Former Trump Presidency Thread

Stefan Stirzaker · Post by **Stefan Stirzaker** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:47 pm

So with the whole "you want to sell in america you produce in america" tweet storm last night, is there a percentage? 100% production in the states to sell in the states? I guess Ferrari just went out of business in America.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Sun Jan 15, 2017 8:03 pm

gilraen wrote:200 Buses Have Applied For Inauguration Parking — 1200 For The Women’s March
As of Friday, roughly 200 bus permits have been requested to park in Washington D.C.’s RFK stadium on Inauguration Day, a spokesperson for the District Department of Transportation confirmed to The Huffington Post. (A total of 393 have been granted within the entire district that day.)

By contrast, nearly 1,200 tour bus permits that have been requested for the Women’s March on Washington the following day.

To put that in context, The Washington Post reports that at President Barack Obama’s record-setting 2009 inauguration, more than 3,000 charter buses registered for parking permits in D.C.

By the way, are any OO'ers going to the march? My wife will be there, as are most of our good female friends and many of the men. I'd like to go, but I'm think having the kids in tow (as much as I would love for them to see it) would make the day logistically difficult.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:06 am

Holman wrote:
gilraen wrote:200 Buses Have Applied For Inauguration Parking — 1200 For The Women’s March
As of Friday, roughly 200 bus permits have been requested to park in Washington D.C.’s RFK stadium on Inauguration Day, a spokesperson for the District Department of Transportation confirmed to The Huffington Post. (A total of 393 have been granted within the entire district that day.)

By contrast, nearly 1,200 tour bus permits that have been requested for the Women’s March on Washington the following day.

To put that in context, The Washington Post reports that at President Barack Obama’s record-setting 2009 inauguration, more than 3,000 charter buses registered for parking permits in D.C.
By the way, are any OO'ers going to the march? My wife will be there, as are most of our good female friends and many of the men. I'd like to go, but I'm think having the kids in tow (as much as I would love for them to see it) would make the day logistically difficult.

I think Wife is going to the one in Boston. Last I heard she was gathering her coven at our house and they were all going to T in. Plans are fragile things with her, though, and I haven't heard anything more since she announced it a week ago. I was not specifically dis-invited, but men are not welcome in the coven.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:04 am

My sister is going to the big one in NY. I wanted to go to Occupy Inauguration, but it turns out it's Friday, not Saturday, which makes it impractical.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:34 am

Kraken wrote:I was not specifically dis-invited, but men are not welcome in the coven.

What about Uncle Arthur?

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:35 am

hepcat wrote:
Kraken wrote:I was not specifically dis-invited, but men are not welcome in the coven.
What about Uncle Arthur?

He was kept out by those Goddamned Jews.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:00 am

This place smells like a $#%@...I think.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:47 am

Ask PGOTUS. He might know.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:23 pm

Stefan Stirzaker wrote:So with the whole "you want to sell in america you produce in america" tweet storm last night, is there a percentage? 100% production in the states to sell in the states? I guess Ferrari just went out of business in America.

Nobody would notice if Ferrari wasn't sold here. They would notice empty shelves at Walmart, though.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:55 pm

At worst, people who can afford a Ferrari wouldn't notice the extra tariff. (As if Trump would impose new tariffs on luxury items for the 1% -- that would be a disincentive for hardworking millionaires who are struggling to get ahead in life.)

Apollo · Post by **Apollo** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:53 pm

I'll be extremely disappointed if there's not a protester at Trump's inauguration holding up a giant Queen of Diamonds.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:41 pm

Apollo wrote:I'll be extremely disappointed if there's not a protester at Trump's inauguration holding up a giant Queen of Diamonds.

Superb!

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:57 pm

I still haven't heard an explanation from Trump supporters why Hillary lying about an email server is a criminal offense, but Trump lying with every sentence that comes out of his mouth is not an issue. Remember how much the Republicans cared about the truth in the 90s? They impeached Bill Clinton for lying.

If there's one thing that will push my buttons to the extreme, it's hypocrisy. And in my four decades on this planet, I've never seen the hypocrisy level this high. It's completely off the charts.

Someone on Facebook posted a tweet by John Scalzi which reads: "Reminder: the same jerks who call liberals "snowflakes" elected the whiniest petulant motherfucker in the entire history of the presidency."

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:18 pm

YellowKing wrote:They impeached Bill Clinton for lying.

To Congress, under oath. That was kind of a big deal. I do agree with your point, though. Trump is so far off the chart that it doesn't even apply to him.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:49 pm

Well, there is the oath of office he has to take.

Wonder if that can be fact checked.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:31 am

At least we get grammar jokes from his awful tweets.

tgb · Post by **tgb** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:13 am

What's the deal with Tiffy, anyway? I've seen a lot of links to stories as to why he never mentions her and she's hardly seen, but haven't taken the click-bait.

In the few photos I have seen she looks, umm, not too bright, but not necessarily dumber than Udai and Kusay.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:23 am

Kraken wrote:
YellowKing wrote:They impeached Bill Clinton for lying.
To Congress, under oath. That was kind of a big deal.

It's pretty clear that Trump has lied under oath, so it's only a matter of time until Trump testifies to Congress.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 7:36 am

tgb wrote:What's the deal with Tiffy, anyway? I've seen a lot of links to stories as to why he never mentions her and she's hardly seen, but haven't taken the click-bait.

In the few photos I have seen she looks, umm, not too bright, but not necessarily dumber than Udai and Kusay.

I don't know much about Tiffany Trump, but I've seen the links you mean, and they are trashy clickbait on a level with "Doctors hate her! [YourTown] grandmother discovers two-dollar cure for cancer!"

What I've heard from interviewers is that Tiffany seems as much Marla's daughter as Donald's, and she has never been part of the inner dynasty. She went to Penn, and according to news coverage she got high grades.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:17 am

Counter-Sting Catches James O’Keefe Network Attempting To Sow Chaos At Trump’s Inauguration

A left-wing political group released a new video Monday of a counter-sting that has uncovered evidence of right-wing activists trying to sow chaos at Donald Trump’s inaugural ceremony, an effort to portray critics of Trump who march against him as violent fringe figures.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:01 am

Nixon's Lawyer sees many similarities between Trump and Nixon - the difference is he think's Trump will get away with it.

Dean’s near-panicked take on the incoming president is shaped in large part by his years in the Nixon White House. In Trump, Dean says he has observed many of his former boss’s most dangerous traits—obsessive vengefulness, reflexive dishonesty, all-consuming ambition—but none of Nixon’s redeeming qualities.

“I used to have one-on-one conversations with [Nixon] where I’d see him checking his more authoritarian tendencies,” Dean recalled. “He’d say, ‘This is something I can’t say out loud...’ or, ‘That is something the president can’t do.’” To Dean, these moments suggested a functioning sense of shame in Nixon, something he was forced to wrestle with in his quest for power. Trump, by contrast, appears to Dean unmolested by any such struggle.

Dean agrees that “he’s carrying loads of potential problems into the White House with him,” and goes even further in his assessment: “I don’t think Richard Nixon even comes to close to the level of corruption we already know about Trump.”

Yet, he’s profoundly pessimistic about the prospect of Trump facing any true accountability while in office. In the four decades since Nixon resigned, Dean says, the institutions that are meant to keep a president’s power in check—the press, Congress, even the courts—have been rendered increasingly weak and ineffectual by a sort of creeping partisan paralysis. (Imagine, if you dare, the Breitbart headlines that would follow Woodward and Bernstein’s first scoop if they were breaking their story today.)

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:16 am

Okay, so ... O'Keefe (who Trump invited to a Presidential debate, and has been funded by Trump before) is attempting to hire out some liberals to act on the behalf of the conservatives and disrupt the Trump inauguration so that liberals look like crazy nutjobs - promising to go as far as shutting down bridges to help them raise hell.

This is normal now, isn't it?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:23 am

Dean agrees that “he’s carrying loads of potential problems into the White House with him,” and goes even further in his assessment: “I don’t think Richard Nixon even comes to close to the level of corruption we already know about Trump.”

Yes, but I've been told by very reliable sources that any corruption of Trump's was done as a private citizen, so he's good to go for public office. Way better choice than Hillary.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:49 am

Paingod wrote:Okay, so ... O'Keefe (who Trump invited to a Presidential debate, and has been funded by Trump before) is attempting to hire out some liberals to act on the behalf of the conservatives and disrupt the Trump inauguration so that liberals look like crazy nutjobs - promising to go as far as shutting down bridges to help them raise hell.

This is normal now, isn't it?

I can't stand O'Keefe, but this spin on his video seems too easy. According to him (and backed up by his video, it appears), he met with some folks who were planning on disrupting an alt-right gathering (the Deploraball, I believe it's called). They were recorded talking about using stink bombs and what not. O'Keefe seems to have just sniffed out a group of liberals who wanted to take things too far. It would be like Michael Moore going to a KKK meeting that called itself a republican group and then condemning all republicans as de facto members.

So both sides in this story are jackasses, in my opinion.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:56 pm

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:02 pm

I feel like America owes an apology to politicians who had to resign due to sex scandals before.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:05 pm

At the very least, they should be building a goddamn shrine to JFK in the front yard of the White House. The epitaph should simply read "He Grabbed Like No Man Has Grabbed Before".

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:17 pm

Jones vs Clinton FTW!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:52 pm

Defiant wrote:

So, did this happen?

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:55 pm

It's not 2:30 EST yet. I wonder if this is the same person who was going to hold a press conference a few weeks before the election and then canceled right before it was supposed to happen.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:56 pm

Unagi wrote:So, did this happen?

You aren't good with time zones are you?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:57 pm

Has it happened yet?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:58 pm

coopasonic wrote:
Unagi wrote:So, did this happen?
You aren't good with time zones are you?

Oops.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:00 pm

When will then be now?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:01 pm

Octavious wrote:When will then be now?

sooner than later

Fretmute · Post by **Fretmute** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:02 pm

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 3:05 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:It's not 2:30 EST yet. I wonder if this is the same person who was going to hold a press conference a few weeks before the election and then canceled right before it was supposed to happen.

That was the alleged victim of child rape. I doubt this is that, as she was represented by a different lawyer.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:26 pm

Unagi wrote: So, did this happen?

milo · Post by **milo** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:27 pm

Captain Caveman wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:I wonder if this is the same person who was going to hold a press conference a few weeks before the election and then canceled right before it was supposed to happen.
That was the alleged victim of child rape. I doubt this is that, as she was represented by a different lawyer.

In fairness, it is rather difficult to keep track of them all.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:30 pm

Max Peck wrote:
In other news...

U.S. Intelligence Officials Reportedly Warn Israeli Counterparts Against Sharing Info With Trump Administration

In other, other news...

EX-CIA CHIEF REJECTS REPORT ISRAEL WAS WARNED OF SHARING INTEL WITH TRUMP

Former CIA and NSA director Gen. (ret.) Michael Hayden rejected a recent report that Obama administration intelligence officials told Israeli officials to be wary of sharing intelligence with the incoming Trump administration.

He responded to Bergman’s report and similar reports regarding British Intelligence being concerned about sharing with the US, saying, “I don’t share those concerns. I saw the reporting. I don’t think, even looking at the dynamics we are talking about, I don’t think the Americans would do it. It is still America’s CIA.”