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tjg_marantz wrote: You don't stop if there's a median usually.

This is my understanding. 4 lane road with no median, all 4 lanes stop. 2 lane road with median, only the bus side stops.

Is that because kids are programmed to not dart across a 2 lane road with a median, but they will if there isn't?

No wonder I piss people off

Unagi wrote:Is that because kids are programmed to not dart across a 2 lane road with a median, but they will if there isn't?

No idea what the rationale is for the law.

GreenGoo wrote:

Unagi wrote:Is that because kids are programmed to not dart across a 2 lane road with a median, but they will if there isn't?

No idea what the rationale is for the law.

To make Daehawk piss people off.

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GreenGoo wrote:

Unagi wrote:Is that because kids are programmed to not dart across a 2 lane road with a median, but they will if there isn't?

No idea what the rationale is for the law.

My assumption is that two lane roads with a median will tend to have a higher speed limit and are less likely to be residential. With less likelihood of kids running across the street from their house to catch the bus and the higher likelihood of accidents from cars slamming on brakes when a bus turns on its signal, the balance of safety may tip to not stopping there. Just speculation on my part, though.

This morning's observation was from a standard residential street. One lane each way, no median.

I figured they were just being dicks.

GreenGoo wrote:

tjg_marantz wrote: You don't stop if there's a median usually.

This is my understanding. 4 lane road with no median, all 4 lanes stop. 2 lane road with median, only the bus side stops.

It might depend on jurisdiction. Here, 4 lane roads only require traffic behind the bus to stop. On coming traffic should continue. At the start of every school season there are a ton of local news reports explaining what to do.

2 lane roads, though, everyone should stop.

GreenGoo wrote:It's too bad school buses aren't allowed to park diagonally across the road when their flashers are going and they are picking up/dropping off kids.

That would be fun.

The one that picks up my kids does. Guess it depends on where it is at. Note that it isn't common or anything but I live on a road with a 45mph speed limit that is a quasi rural highway. I don't let the kids play in the front yard because we have had several accidents result in cars in the front yard.

GreenGoo wrote:

tjg_marantz wrote: You don't stop if there's a median usually.

This is my understanding. 4 lane road with no median, all 4 lanes stop. 2 lane road with median, only the bus side stops.

I had to figure out what you meant by median. You mean if the road is physically divided. I have no idea how that works. We don't have divided roads or parkways in any residential areas around here that I am aware of. I assume I'd stop if I saw a bus stop but I don't know if that's the right thing to do.

That double yellow line is also called a median and you can be sure you have to stop where those are present. My house was on a 55 MPH state highway and cars had to go from 55 to 0 for oncoming traffic for every bus stop there was on M-153.

stessier wrote:

GreenGoo wrote:

tjg_marantz wrote: You don't stop if there's a median usually.

This is my understanding. 4 lane road with no median, all 4 lanes stop. 2 lane road with median, only the bus side stops.

It might depend on jurisdiction. Here, 4 lane roads only require traffic behind the bus to stop. On coming traffic should continue. At the start of every school season there are a ton of local news reports explaining what to do.

2 lane roads, though, everyone should stop.

I think we are required to stop at 4 lane stops. However, I don't think buses do stops on 4+ lane roads. I think they always stop on the side streets and if necessary there will be crossing guard at intersections... I think...

Fuck pit bulls.

My sister-in-law had my 2 year old niece with her when they went to drop something off at a neighbor's house this afternoon. Their pit bull lunged at her as they stood in the doorway and clamped down on her face. Tore her cheek and jaw open down to the bone, and she's going to have to have surgery to repair it. Thank god it missed her eye..she's already blind in one eye, and the fucking dog went after the side with her good eye. This was a 6 year old dog who had never shown signs of aggressiveness before, and it messed her up good.

Fuck them all.

I'm sorry that happened.

Pit bulls don't just snap anymore than other dogs just in and of itself. Something must have happened that someone didn't notice. Please don't take it out on a breed.

But again, hope the little one pulls through without long lasting effects, physical and emotional.

I disagree. You don't see Labs or Yorkies snapping and attacking people for no reason.Well, okay, maybe Yorkies. I believe it's in the pitbull breeding.

Dogs are puppies. There are too many owners who train their dogs like shit.

Hope your niece heals quickly and doesn't have too much trauma.

tjg_marantz wrote:Pit bulls don't just snap anymore than other dogs just in and of itself. Something must have happened that someone didn't notice. Please don't take it out on a breed.

True. It's mostly a myth that one breed over another is 'vicious' or 'dangerous' - they're all potentially dangerous if not properly trained. Something triggered the attack; we just don't know what and/or nobody saw it. In no way am I saying your sister-in-law's niece did anything to provoke it - the trigger could have been something from earlier in life that she reminded the dog of.

An article over at DogTime.com

Article wrote:Certain types of dogs were selectively bred for tasks that require aggressive behaviors. Pit Bulls and other game dogs were developed for fight drive and high prey drive, which allowed them to excel in blood sports, where they were encouraged to kill other animals. But they were also bred to be loyal companions to their people. Other types of dogs–dogs not bred for aggressive behaviors, such as Golden Retrievers and even a Pomeranian–have also been involved in fatal attacks.

The most extensive study to catalog breeds of dogs involved in attacks was done by the American Veterinary Task Force on Canine Aggression and Humane-Canine Interactions, published in June 2001. Some analysts have stated that this study indicated that dogs that were consistently high on the list correlated to the breeds of larger dogs which were more popular at that time. In the 1970s, Dobermans were very popular, hence a higher number of attacks by Dobermans during the 70s. Pit Bulls started rising in popularity in the 1980s, which is when their numbers began to rise, and Rottweiler numbers rose for the same reason in the 1990s. Since there are no studies available comparing the number of non-fatal bites by breed, it is hard to know if smaller dogs, who are less likely to be capable of administering a fatal bite, showed a similar correlation during the decades of their greatest popularity.

The American Animal Hospital Association (AAHA) states in an article on their website entitled “Are Certain Breeds of Dogs More Aggressive Than Others?” that the above-cited study did not prove that certain breeds of dogs are more dangerous than others, but simply proved what veterinarians have long believed for years: that nearly any dog can be aggressive, or non-aggressive, based on his early training, socialization and environment.

So, basically, any dog that's popular will tend to get spotlighted as aggressive simply by virtue of there being so many of them.

I've got a Boxer. Boxers were bred for hunting bears, among other things, as far as I know. She's the most docile doofus I've ever known. I do sometimes pretend to be a bear and she LOVES it. She seems to have a built-in guerrilla tactics button - she runs in, runs wide of my arms, darts around me, and never gets close enough for me to catch her. I imagine it would enrage a bear and wear them out. When we finish play, though, I drop my arms and she immediately runs up for love and hugs. She's awesome with the kids and is massively tolerant of them, never once even growling at them. I did (and still do periodically) work with her early in life to make sure she understood her role in the house.

I've seen Pit Bulls act the same way. The coolest one I knew was used in a Puppy Romp setting and was the 'mother dog' with a lot of other breeds of puppies biting and playing with her, and she was just the sweetest thing, play fighting and rolling around with them. I thought about getting one and decided against it not because of their reputation, but because the traits of a Boxer fit more what I wanted in terms of energy, loyalty, and smarts.

Zarathud wrote:Dogs are puppies. There are too many owners who train their dogs like shit.

QFT. It's also entirely possible that this was a rescue dog, and those come with a set of mixed baggage nobody knows anything about. The current owner might do everything right, but years if poor handling may bubble up at some point. I don't know. My sister worked at a shelter for a while and they worked hard to ensure any dog that was placed wasn't dangerous.

Zarathud wrote:Hope your niece heals quickly and doesn't have too much trauma.

Seconded. It's a horrible thing and I hope the recovery is as complete as possible.

I really hope the little one is OK. No one should have to suffer an attack like that.

As someone that has filled out forms for (and investigated) dozens of dog bite incidents, the ones involving children always, always suck. Here's hoping for a quick recovery...

The dog we had as a child had to be kept away from any other children, as her jealousy would make her snap at their faces.

She was a spaniel mutt weighing maybe 20-30 pounds.

Isgrimnur wrote:She was a spaniel mutt weighing maybe 20-30 pounds.

Was she a Spaniel/Pit-bull/Rottweiler/Doberman mix?

Quick update: After having to wait for 4 hours (she ate right before the attack, and couldn't be sedated for a few hours), they got Lucy in to a plastic surgeon who was able to close everything up without incident. I saw the pictures, they're horrific. She has a massive gash from the corner of her left eye, across her nose, and down to her left cheek. It missed her good eye by about 2mm, and the doc said the protective glasses she wears not only saved her eye, but possibly her life. The glasses shifted when the dog bit down, and prevented it from being able to clamp down on her face. She's doing well this morning, but obviously has a long road to recovery.

To their credit, the dog's owners voluntarily took her to be put down first thing this morning. However, they own two other pitbulls, so I imagine things are going to be rather strained between theirs and my brother's families (they're next door neighbors and the dog owners are my brother's landlord for their rental house).

And while I know there's lots of data to back up the "it's not the breed, it's the owner", I don't think I'll ever be able to get this out of my head. Pit bulls are simply off-limits for me and mine, forever. If there's one in the house, my kids will not be there, no questions asked.

Skinypupy wrote:And while I know there's lots of data to back up the "it's not the breed, it's the owner", I don't think I'll ever be able to get this out of my head. Pit bulls are simply off-limits for me and mine, forever. If there's one in the house, my kids will not be there, no questions asked.

In general any dog and a child (<10) isn't a good idea and I've seen enough anecdotal evidence to support what I believe is still the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics (the age of the child). It's also one of the reasons I didn't want a dog. I have no doubts if our current dog had a different personality, there would have been a bite incident in my own house.

Skinypupy wrote:And while I know there's lots of data to back up the "it's not the breed, it's the owner", I don't think I'll ever be able to get this out of my head. Pit bulls are simply off-limits for me and mine, forever. If there's one in the house, my kids will not be there, no questions asked.

That's pretty much it. You do what you wanna do, but your pit bulls and your rottweilers have about a 0% seeing me around them.

May your niece heal well and quickly.

Paingod wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:She was a spaniel mutt weighing maybe 20-30 pounds.

Was she a Spaniel/Pit-bull/Rottweiler/Doberman mix?

She was not.

When a poodle latches on and shakes, nobody dies. Usually.

The breed might not be more prone to aggression than others (which would be weird because of the "pit" part of the breed) but it is better equipped than most to do something about it when it does get aggressive.

I like dogs. I don't give 2 craps about breeds of dogs.

Tanks aren't any more prone to shooting children than water guns, but I'm not a fan of keeping tanks around either.

New manager from corporate transferred to our office means no going home early for the holiday weekend. Hoping this is not a precedent.

Everyone else has gone home around here except for me. I have a meeting at 3:30 with the VP of Citrix Mobility. He's new and he wanted to have meetings with his largest customers. He's going to get an earful.

Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend is not the time to schedule that crap.

On a side note, I am quite enjoying my Friday off, especially since the work e-mail says we just got hit with ransomware at headquarters.

Isgrimnur wrote:we just got hit with ransomware at headquarters.

I've never even heard of this before.

I'm last man standing on my team. Probably the entire floor (overhead lights are out everywhere else). Possibly entire building.

Skinypupy wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:we just got hit with ransomware at headquarters.

I've never even heard of this before.

Then your IT guy is horrible at educating users.

Got a new scam phone call.
A computer voice says "You computer is sending out noises and disruptive blah blah blah. Please push you one button to connect to a Microsoft engineer."
Cute.

Isgrimnur wrote:Friday afternoon before a holiday weekend is not the time to schedule that crap.

On a side note, I am quite enjoying my Friday off, especially since the work e-mail says we just got hit with ransomware at headquarters.

Hopefully you have SANS that snapshot your data away from the reach of such crap?

We have backups. Apparently they haven't been run since July.

Isgrimnur wrote:We have backups. Apparently they haven't been run since July.

When I took over backups, we didn't back up clients and every single server tape backup in my possession was blank. My vent could be a lot longer. Luck to you!

Isgrimnur wrote:We have backups. Apparently they haven't been run since July.

Ughhh, that is a bind. Not sure I could sleep at night without knowing that every piece of user data gets a snapshot every night and that even I would have to manually configure the array to get access to it. We even have Symantec's DLO to copy documents and stuff on the users PC to a LUN on the SAN which I then snapshot every night. Ransomware could be disruptive but it could never keep us from accessing our data.

Might be the ideal time to ask for money for a SAN. They have gotten a lot cheaper.

Rip wrote:Might be the ideal time to ask for money for a SAN. They have gotten a lot cheaper.

Not that much cheaper. I just asked for me 2017 budget and I want virtualize all my servers on to a single SAN behind a single physical server and I think my boss shit a Miata when she saw how much I asked for.

LordMortis wrote:

Rip wrote:Might be the ideal time to ask for money for a SAN. They have gotten a lot cheaper.

Not that much cheaper. I just asked for me 2017 budget and I want virtualize all my servers on to a single SAN behind a single physical server and I think my boss shit a Miata when she saw how much I asked for.

Tell him to just wait and see how much a ransomware attack will cost.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said ransomware attacks cost victims $209 million in the first three months of the year, including costs, such as lost productivity and staff time to recover files, that is an average of about $333,000 an incident, based on complaints that it has received. The total is up from $24 million for all of 2015, or about $10,000 an infection, the FBI said.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/in-the-bitc ... 1471616632

I'm programming, so I just get a ringside seat. Hell, I can't even get them to promote my programmer from junior with a raise of even 2%. Money is so far outside my control.

Due to issues with emails and quarantines prior, we've gone to a system where you can release your own e-mails. Guess how the ransomware got in?

On a side note, we still couldn't run a plugs out restore test even if we wanted to. Don't have the hardware yet.

Isgrimnur wrote:

Skinypupy wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:we just got hit with ransomware at headquarters.

I've never even heard of this before.

Then your IT guy is horrible at educating users.

The only IT info we get, ever, is an e-mail once a year with the corporate internet usage policy and a reminder to change our passwords. Every once in a while, we get an e-mail that tells us they're doing some sort of upgrade. Everyone's system will update the following morning, and we all just assume it's some sort of technosorcery that's making our system run.

Other than that, I don't think I've ever received anything from our IT department in the 12 years I've been here.

Nice. The Internet is dark and full of terrors, and your IT staff goes with abstinence-only education.