[Health] The Infectious Diseases Thread

gameoverman · Post by **gameoverman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:41 pm

edit: this might be political so I'll move it to the other thread.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:51 pm

from the WA hot zone: King, Pierce and Snohomish counties to cancel public school for a month and a half (until April 24)

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:15 pm

North suburbs of Chicago here and they are closing schools as of now and moving to eLearning starting Monday

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:32 pm

Snapshot from Philadelphia:

1) The university where I teach has already announced a campus closure and switch to remote teaching, effective immediately.

2) The community college where I'm a reference librarian is dragging its feet, telling faculty to transition to mainly remote teaching but insisting that the college itself and essential staff (including librarians) remain on duty. The college is aware that a portion of the student body doesn't have reliable internet at home.

3) We live with my elderly in-laws, including my FIL who is 90 years old and has a serious immune deficiency due to other health issues. My wife (whose own university just closed campus) wants to go into family self-quarantine for at least a couple of weeks until we better understand the state of the pandemic.

Our kids (10th and 8th grade) are still in school, but it seems more than likely that the district will shut down before Monday. If that happens, it would leave me as the only family member required to mingle with the public on a regular basis (at the library job two days a week).

Having already switched from public transportation to driving to the library, I can probably manage to get safely through my working days on Purell and social distancing. I imagine most reference work I perform will be on the phone anyway. Still, I kind of feel like the weak link here.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:36 pm

Schools here are closed for the next 2 weeks. They've also moved Spring Break from April 26th to March 23rd.

MHS · Post by **MHS** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:49 pm

I'm currently on day 8 of on the road for work travel. Here's a paraphrased phone call with my boss last night:

Me: "My training for tomorrow got cancelled, the college it was being hosted at is closing. Not sure about Friday. Also, the state person in NJ emailed me and wants to change their onsite training in April and May to web-based because a bunch of their schools are closing. We should talk what to do for SC next week, ND the week after that, WV the week after that, and NJ."

Boss: "Oh huh. Bummer, can you call NJ and just get them to move it back? Can we proceed with the others?"

Me: "I really think we should consider going to web-based. My friend who is an expert on this stuff is really recommending taking this seriously."

Boss: "But does your friend, what's his name by the way?" Me: "Ummmm...Smoove."

<long pause> Boss: "Does Mr. Smooth know how careful you are? That you wear a mask and use Clorox wipes and everything?"

Me: "Yes, he knows, he still thinks it's not a good idea for me to be traveling and doing trainings with 40-50 people in a small room."

Boss: "Maybe you can just drive so you don't have to fly since it's just flying that's unsafe."

Me: ...

Anyway, the end result was that we're going on a case by case basis per state. I'm finishing out this week but probably not going to SC. ND didn't want to cancel or go web-based so that got moved to May and we'll reevaluate when the time comes. WV remains TBD, NJ will be cancelled because the client insisted. But I don't think he could make it any clearer how much he'd prop my dead carcass up and send me back to work if it came to it.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:54 pm

Follow-up conversation: "I, MHS, have evaluated each case and determined that we will be going web-based for the foreseeable future. I have altered the deal; pray I do not alter it further."

If he balks, then it's pirate letter time. Ain't nobody got time for that stupidity.

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:55 pm

Our county is closing schools indefinitely.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:01 pm

MHS wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:49 pm I'm currently on day 8 of on the road for work travel. Here's a paraphrased phone call with my boss last night:

Me: "My training for tomorrow got cancelled, the college it was being hosted at is closing. Not sure about Friday. Also, the state person in NJ emailed me and wants to change their onsite training in April and May to web-based because a bunch of their schools are closing. We should talk what to do for SC next week, ND the week after that, WV the week after that, and NJ."

Boss: "Oh huh. Bummer, can you call NJ and just get them to move it back? Can we proceed with the others?"

Me: "I really think we should consider going to web-based. My friend who is an expert on this stuff is really recommending taking this seriously."

Boss: "But does your friend, what's his name by the way?" Me: "Ummmm...Smoove."

<long pause> Boss: "Does Mr. Smooth know how careful you are? That you wear a mask and use Clorox wipes and everything?"

Me: "Yes, he knows, he still thinks it's not a good idea for me to be traveling and doing trainings with 40-50 people in a small room."

Boss: "Maybe you can just drive so you don't have to fly since it's just flying that's unsafe."

Me: ...

Anyway, the end result was that we're going on a case by case basis per state. I'm finishing out this week but probably not going to SC. ND didn't want to cancel or go web-based so that got moved to May and we'll reevaluate when the time comes. WV remains TBD, NJ will be cancelled because the client insisted. But I don't think he could make it any clearer how much he'd prop my dead carcass up and send me back to work if it came to it.

Seriously, make the effort to obtain a signed recommendation from a medical specialist such as your nephrologist (which ought not be difficult at all). That'll be much more persuasive to a stubborn boss than Mr. Smoove's guidance.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:07 pm

Anonymous Bosch wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:01 pm
MHS wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:49 pm I'm currently on day 8 of on the road for work travel. Here's a paraphrased phone call with my boss last night:

Me: "My training for tomorrow got cancelled, the college it was being hosted at is closing. Not sure about Friday. Also, the state person in NJ emailed me and wants to change their onsite training in April and May to web-based because a bunch of their schools are closing. We should talk what to do for SC next week, ND the week after that, WV the week after that, and NJ."

Boss: "Oh huh. Bummer, can you call NJ and just get them to move it back? Can we proceed with the others?"

Me: "I really think we should consider going to web-based. My friend who is an expert on this stuff is really recommending taking this seriously."

Boss: "But does your friend, what's his name by the way?" Me: "Ummmm...Smoove."

<long pause> Boss: "Does Mr. Smooth know how careful you are? That you wear a mask and use Clorox wipes and everything?"

Me: "Yes, he knows, he still thinks it's not a good idea for me to be traveling and doing trainings with 40-50 people in a small room."

Boss: "Maybe you can just drive so you don't have to fly since it's just flying that's unsafe."

Me: ...

Anyway, the end result was that we're going on a case by case basis per state. I'm finishing out this week but probably not going to SC. ND didn't want to cancel or go web-based so that got moved to May and we'll reevaluate when the time comes. WV remains TBD, NJ will be cancelled because the client insisted. But I don't think he could make it any clearer how much he'd prop my dead carcass up and send me back to work if it came to it.
Seriously, make the effort to obtain a signed recommendation from a medical specialist such as your nephrologist (which ought not be difficult at all). That'll be much more persuasive to a stubborn boss than Mr. Smoove's guidance.

I am guessing small company. Been there done that. Used to get a bonus check with a side of guilt on where I had to fly to on short notice. Looking back, those bonus checks were not even that large. <shrug>

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:08 pm

So...anyone know when Big TP might again flood the streets with asswipes? I checked a few places after work, the only ones I could find were at a gas station and...did you ever wonder what a single roll actually looks like since it's impossible (I thought) to buy anything less than the ubiquitous "double roll"? Well, the gas station had a 4-pack of such things made by Charmin. It would appear to be single-use rolls.

All I could find on Amazon was industrial wrapped individuals sold in 80-pack case for $80-200. I'm certain those on far end are price gouging. I have maybe a week's supply, so stores will restock by then, probably no problem, but otherwise I might be better better off going with what's available now.

MHS · Post by **MHS** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 pm

RMC wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:07 pm I am guessing small company. Been there done that. Used to get a bonus check with a side of guilt on where I had to fly to on short notice. Looking back, those bonus checks were not even that large. <shrug>

Yup, very small company. Which is why I hadn't brought up cancelling until clients did. It's still disheartening that he's so tone deaf.

I will ask my nephrologist for some supporting documentation when I see him later this month.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 pm

Imaginary internet person invoked!

I'm kinda surprised at the boss here. Does he like...read the news? The market for remote/online training is about to EXPLODE and he's sending you out to places that are closing down? It makes no sense. You should be developing all kinds of remote course work, certificate programs, and short classes. You can do that from home! This is the time for innovation and creativity - not to try and force things to happen as they always have. Maybe he'll be changing in tune when everything goes pear-shaped in the next 24 hours nationwide? And we're just getting started...

Please, please get home safe.

MHS · Post by **MHS** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:13 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 pm Imaginary internet person invoked!

I'm kinda surprised at the boss here. Does he like...read the news? The market for remote/online training is about to EXPLODE and he's sending you out to places that are closing down? It makes no sense. You should be developing all kinds of remote course work, certificate programs, and short classes. You can do that from home! This is the time for innovation and creativity - not to try and force things to happen as they always have. Maybe he'll be changing in tune when everything goes pear-shaped in the next 24 hours nationwide? And we're just getting started...

Please, please get home safe.

He doesn't really read the news, no. He reminds me a lot of Trump, not informed and fine with being oblivious. When I mentioned that the NBA was taking it seriously enough to end the season despite the loss of billions of dollars, he told me he didn't see how that was relevant.

Thanks, Mr. Smooth. I'll do my best!

morlac · Post by **morlac** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:13 pm

Smoove, talk to me about National quarantines. What would one look like, what to expect, etc. I suspect we are close to one and this is evolving super quick (the cancellations)since last night.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:19 pm

MHS wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:10 pm I will ask my nephrologist for some supporting documentation when I see him later this month.

Time is of the essence. So no need to procrastinate, just call the office for the nephrologist and explain your predicament. The administrative staff should be able to print out the relevant documentation and have the doctor sign off on it in fairly short order.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:32 pm

Smoove, talk to me about National quarantines. What would one look like, what to expect, etc. I suspect we are close to one and this is evolving super quick (the cancellations)since last night.

Right, so now you're seeing lots of voluntary cancellations - which is good. However, some states are stepping up and asking (you always ask first) to limit gatherings. The next likely step will be to have police and/or National Guard out to enforce recommendations and likely secure important facilities (like hospitals). In theory borders could be shut, though I'd question why if that were to occur. I'm not sure travel between towns or states is going to be a problem here. Granted, when we have supply chain issues states or communities might very well "circle the wagons." I feel like the last week has been me repeatedly saying "No one knows" and that's not very helpful, but we are truly all experiencing something no one has direct experience with.

In terms of a "national quarantine", I still think everything is going to be voluntary. Towns might call for curfews to limit the potential for social gatherings (like at bars, clubs, community centers, etc...), but the message we're trying to get out now is how important social distancing is. Before voluntary quarantine (after exposure), limit your contacts so that you don't need to worry. Social distancing is critical. If you can limit interactions with others, that's your best bet. This is why the time is now to shut down schools, switch to working at home and cancel large gatherings.

If someone has an exposure, they're still going to ask for a voluntary quarantine. If you break that quarantine, technically you could be subject to penalties but given the scope of what's happening now across America, I don't know how it could be reasonably enforced. It would have be particularly egregious IMHO for local police/health authority to step in an do a mandatory quarantine order. Historically quarantines were legally forced during TB infections and you can still be incarcerated over refusal to comply. Doing that for hundreds or thousands of people? I don't see that happening.

The thing to remember with public health is that very broadly speaking, it's a matter of State policy. No where in the Constitution is public health mentioned (not surprisingly). The closest we get is the Preamble under the idea that the Federal government is obligated to promote the "general Welfare". States are enacting their own policies and plans right now and that's also why response is so different. I just read that Alabama is claiming zero cases and has only run 20 tests. Compare that to NY, NJ or CA - huge, huge difference.

Anyway, whatever is going to happen to you is 100% related to the state and county you live in. The feds (ideally) are running logistics in the background- supporting with additional tests and resupply of materials. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:50 pm

Lorini wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:17 pmI think it makes way more sense to say we'll revisit the situation every week or two weeks or whatever and give you an update. That seems more honest given the situation while still reassuring you that they care about whatever it is they've postponed and understand that it's important to you to know what's going on. In a week or two weeks they'll know more about a final date.

It helps that way plus you continue the planning loop to restore operations. It is a mindset and a practical exercise.

In ransomware, there's usually a precedent on how to deal with it, here there's no precedent that is relevant to this particular problem. The previous outbreaks in the last few years have been much milder, and the Spanish flu pandemic, medicine was in a much different place, they didn't even know about viruses then.

I'd normally agree but this was a situation no one had ever dealt with. I'd reverse it and say at least people understand epidemics. The first NotPetya attacks wiped out everything. The phone system was deleted. There were no accounts. It shut down accounting. We found out the hard way which backups didn't work. Manufacturing environments were destroyed. There was nothing. We literally were having executives calling direct reports to get phone numbers from subordinates based on contacts in their cell phones. It was chaos. We still published a restoration date...once there was a way to communicate.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:52 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:32 pm In theory borders could be shut, though I'd question why if that were to occur.

Legendary columnist Mike Royko strongly advocated the closing of the Illinois/Indiana border for years, and he died over 20 years ago. In fact, I believe he pushed for closing the border between Indiana and every other bordering state as well.

Here, my wife's employer closed the facility to visitors (it's a nursing home and that's certainly a prudent move although if everyone becomes exposed it ultimately won't matter). The local school district canceled a Fine Arts Fair scheduled for this weekend. Chicago canceled two of the largest St. Pat's parades in the country. My wife shared a post on a local FB group where someone's neighbor just came back from Ireland and is coughing and sneezing and OMG we're all DOOMED! She was surprisingly calm regarding the prospect of canceling summer vacation plans (the topic which I broached a few hours ago). Our border offered to stay home and watch the kids while we attend a baby hazing on Saturday, and she was actually ok with that and added a Sunday b-day party (which I don't recall being told about) is something she'd rather not do.

Meanwhile, I had a really frustrating day at work. It started with multiple requests to stage laptops for customer service reps so they can WFH. However, our fearless leadership has taken the position that they will contest each and every request, which must be filed individually with a single executive manager being the ultimate arbiter. I wonder how that's going to work for them when those requests number in the hundreds or even thousands (I don't really know how many jobs in the company CAN be done from home since most employees are involved with manufacturing and you can't exactly run industrial printing presses at home). My boss then issued a directive to me and my peer that we call (not email, which, you know, could be forwarded to other interested parties) plant presidents to advise them of this half-assed policy. Then HIS boss, on a call attended by my entire division (~120 people) said that upper level management was working on a communication to the business leaders but nothing yet and she doesn't even want to be responsible for disseminating the current plan. But my boss never rescinded his prior order.

At the end of the day, he communicated current policy with all of the techs in our region. Neither myself nor my peer contacted plant presidents and the like...yet. We'll see what tomorrow brings.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:15 pm

MHS wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:49 pm I'm currently on day 8 of on the road for work travel. Here's a paraphrased phone call with my boss last night:

Me: "My training for tomorrow got cancelled, the college it was being hosted at is closing. Not sure about Friday. Also, the state person in NJ emailed me and wants to change their onsite training in April and May to web-based because a bunch of their schools are closing. We should talk what to do for SC next week, ND the week after that, WV the week after that, and NJ."

Boss: "Oh huh. Bummer, can you call NJ and just get them to move it back? Can we proceed with the others?"

Me: "I really think we should consider going to web-based. My friend who is an expert on this stuff is really recommending taking this seriously."

Boss: "But does your friend, what's his name by the way?" Me: "Ummmm...Smoove."

<long pause> Boss: "Does Mr. Smooth know how careful you are? That you wear a mask and use Clorox wipes and everything?"

Me: "Yes, he knows, he still thinks it's not a good idea for me to be traveling and doing trainings with 40-50 people in a small room."

Boss: "Maybe you can just drive so you don't have to fly since it's just flying that's unsafe."

Me: ...

Anyway, the end result was that we're going on a case by case basis per state. I'm finishing out this week but probably not going to SC. ND didn't want to cancel or go web-based so that got moved to May and we'll reevaluate when the time comes. WV remains TBD, NJ will be cancelled because the client insisted. But I don't think he could make it any clearer how much he'd prop my dead carcass up and send me back to work if it came to it.

Ugh, that sucks. Was wondering how your place would handle this.

My bosses have basically just resigned themselves to the fact that this quarter will tank, and we're doing everything we can to get things rescheduled and/or delivered virtually in Q4. I'm really grateful that I have a proven track record so I'll get lots of patience as we try to reschedule everything that has cancelled.

gameoverman · Post by **gameoverman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:18 pm

I think one thing might, might, limit the amount of disruption to this country and that is its size. Something crazy going on in Los Angeles and the actions required to deal with it might not be applicable to Miami, and vice versa. So we might wind up with hard hit areas, middle of the road areas, and 'meh' areas that hardly see any disruption at all. And by 'disruption' I mean all of it, health/death impact, economic impact, and elective activities like rioting and/or looting. Being in a highly populated area, I expect to be in for a wilder ride rather than a tamer one before long.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:20 pm

Wrong venue!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:23 pm

Jeff V wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:08 pm So...anyone know when Big TP might again flood the streets with asswipes? I checked a few places after work, the only ones I could find were at a gas station and...did you ever wonder what a single roll actually looks like since it's impossible (I thought) to buy anything less than the ubiquitous "double roll"? Well, the gas station had a 4-pack of such things made by Charmin. It would appear to be single-use rolls.

All I could find on Amazon was industrial wrapped individuals sold in 80-pack case for $80-200. I'm certain those on far end are price gouging. I have maybe a week's supply, so stores will restock by then, probably no problem, but otherwise I might be better better off going with what's available now.

I'm already selling single-ply single-sheets on eBay for $3 each.

Look, either you care about civilization or you don't. Make the investment! Wipe the future!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:32 pm

https://twitter.com/ellen_perleberg/sta ... 9521862657

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:04 pm

West Point has delayed the return of cadets until the end of the month.

Democrat Party Hoax, though.

Combustible Lemur · Post by **Combustible Lemur** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:22 pm

Jeff V wrote:So...anyone know when Big TP might again flood the streets with asswipes? I checked a few places after work, the only ones I could find were at a gas station and...did you ever wonder what a single roll actually looks like since it's impossible (I thought) to buy anything less than the ubiquitous "double roll"? Well, the gas station had a 4-pack of such things made by Charmin. It would appear to be single-use rolls.

All I could find on Amazon was industrial wrapped individuals sold in 80-pack case for $80-200. I'm certain those on far end are price gouging. I have maybe a week's supply, so stores will restock by then, probably no problem, but otherwise I might be better better off going with what's available now.

If you have a Big Lots, my local was well stocked

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jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:25 pm

A little something to brighten the day

Hope it posts properly.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:32 pm

Sounds like what should be normal every day things to begin with.

Roman · Post by **Roman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:35 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:23 pm
Jeff V wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:08 pm So...anyone know when Big TP might again flood the streets with asswipes? I checked a few places after work, the only ones I could find were at a gas station and...did you ever wonder what a single roll actually looks like since it's impossible (I thought) to buy anything less than the ubiquitous "double roll"? Well, the gas station had a 4-pack of such things made by Charmin. It would appear to be single-use rolls.

All I could find on Amazon was industrial wrapped individuals sold in 80-pack case for $80-200. I'm certain those on far end are price gouging. I have maybe a week's supply, so stores will restock by then, probably no problem, but otherwise I might be better better off going with what's available now.
I'm already selling single-ply single-sheets on eBay for $3 each.

Look, either you care about civilization or you don't. Make the investment! Wipe the future!

We bought TP this week because we needed it.

I don;t understand the run on TP. If you are working from home / quarantined for long periods do we not all have showers/baths to clean ourselves after going poo?

msduncan · Post by **msduncan** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:36 pm

Reporting in. My company has begun mandatory telecommuting until further notice.

sgoldj · Post by **sgoldj** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:58 pm

Seems like the Disney Parks and Universal Parks in Orlando are closed as of close of business March 15. City Walk and Disney Springs remain open.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:59 pm

Combustible Lemur wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:22 pm
Jeff V wrote:So...anyone know when Big TP might again flood the streets with asswipes? I checked a few places after work, the only ones I could find were at a gas station and...did you ever wonder what a single roll actually looks like since it's impossible (I thought) to buy anything less than the ubiquitous "double roll"? Well, the gas station had a 4-pack of such things made by Charmin. It would appear to be single-use rolls.

All I could find on Amazon was industrial wrapped individuals sold in 80-pack case for $80-200. I'm certain those on far end are price gouging. I have maybe a week's supply, so stores will restock by then, probably no problem, but otherwise I might be better better off going with what's available now.
If you have a Big Lots, my local was well stocked

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Thanks for the tip. There's not one locally, the nearest is Naperville, about 10 miles, but I could work it into this weekend's shopping.

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:00 pm

sgoldj wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 9:58 pm Seems like the Disney Parks and Universal Parks in Orlando are closed as of close of business March 15. City Walk and Disney Springs remain open.

So they are essentially canceling spring break. What remains to be seen is if this extends to summer vacation, and whether it is prudent to assume it will.

YellowKing · Post by **YellowKing** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:04 pm

They canceled the North Carolina Azalea Festival, which sounds a bit hokey (and it kinda is), but it's also the biggest annual event in the city and brings in around $50 million in tourist revenue each year. It's understandable, as it's nothing BUT a social event - parades, dinners, a huge street fair, concerts, etc. The impact of not having it is going to be pretty devastating to all the small business owners downtown.

In 45 years living here, I've never seen it canceled. It's pretty surreal.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:09 pm

I have it on good authority that the kids are calling it "Corona Break."

Jeff V · Post by **Jeff V** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:16 pm

YellowKing wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:04 pm They canceled the North Carolina Azalea Festival, which sounds a bit hokey (and it kinda is), but it's also the biggest annual event in the city and brings in around $50 million in tourist revenue each year. It's understandable, as it's nothing BUT a social event - parades, dinners, a huge street fair, concerts, etc. The impact of not having it is going to be pretty devastating to all the small business owners downtown.

In 45 years living here, I've never seen it canceled. It's pretty surreal.

Wow...here I went to an Azalea event at Lincoln Park Conservatory and it was nowhere near such a big deal. I'll content myself with staring at the azalea I got my wife for VD. At least until my daughter does what she does and plucks all of the flowers from the thing.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:28 pm

So is the world closing up shop again come fall?

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 10:56 pm

This is Trump eliminating the First Amendment.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:04 pm

I didn't know he could count that high.

Roman · Post by **Roman** » Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:05 pm

My company tested a WFH day today - mandatory for all at the Toronto office. Went well.

Then HR sends an email later tonight that says someone came to the offices this week who was not well (sick) so out an abundance of caution they are extending WFH for another day - tomorrow.
Will see what happens next.