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Who exactly does Chuck Todd appeal to? What I think is clear is that NBC management takes Chuck Todd 'too seriously'.

Edit: To be clear, Todd was talking about its effect on campaigning but really. The framing is such a dumb take. So many people have already voted. Biden not holding traditional campaign events...makes sense because he is setting an example...to dig us out of the mess we are in. Idiots like Todd can't think ten seconds down the road to what comes next. It is just vapid chatter.

https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1321826311225135104

I wonder if Chuck Todd has an outside shot at exceeding the contempt that I have for Chris Cillizza. It won't be easy, but then people didn't think that Roger Maris's record could get broken either.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:39 pm I wonder if Chuck Todd has an outside shot at exceeding the contempt that I have for Chris Cillizza. It won't be easy, but then people didn't think that Roger Maris's record could get broken either.

Todd has exceeded for me because one runs politics at CNN which no small thing but Todd runs MTP and its essentially become Fox News lite. Lately he has a tendency to invite GOP talkers on who lie to him, he doesn't challenge them, and just frankly has trashed one of the most important political news shows in history. It's baffling because if you are paying attention he is - subjectively to be fair - less than mediocre.

Todd will forever be compared (perhaps unfairly) with Tim Russert, who was one of the all-time greats. Todd seems to thrive on the controversy of the week writing the script for his show; and when Trump was elected he looked and acted like a kid in a candy store...knowing that the next 4 years would be cruise control. I think he generally picks good panelists, and the quality of the guests is a product of the times. How can a Republican go on to try to explain the stupidity of the administration without sounding dumb themselves? In general, I find MtP entertaining these days, even if lacking profound discourse of before times. But that would be the case with any political show over the last 4 years.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:39 pm I wonder if Chuck Todd has an outside shot at exceeding the contempt that I have for Chris Cillizza. It won't be easy, but then people didn't think that Roger Maris's record could get broken either.

What is the talking head equivalent of anabolic steroids?

malchior wrote: Wed Oct 28, 2020 4:32 pm Reports from Blue New Jersey. My neighbor put up a Biden/Harris sign last night. This morning it was spray painted red on both sides.

Update: I'll have to get a picture when the heavy rains stop. My neighbor put out 2 additional Biden/Harris signs. Both were sprayed with Red Ts. I want to get a sign in view of my ring and see who is doing this.

Well down the street someone did the same thing to one of the Trump shrines. That house has like 900 signs. I don't fn get people like that.

I used to like ol' Chuck for his election night breakdowns, but as he's moved into softball pitcher for crazy Republicans his stock has dropped precipitously.

You want a good laugh about whats going on in my area with sign tomfoolery, heres a link

https://www.cantonrep.com/news/20200903 ... of-minerva

Holman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:02 pm

Jaymann wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:48 am Presumably Carlson has a wife and family and goes to church. What would possess him to sell his soul to the devil with this transparently false personal narrative, for the sake of a shit-show grifter?

BTW, don't assume for a second that this "evidence" was actually lost. Today's story is about planting the seed and raising expectations for what's coming.

Expect it to burst into headlines tomorrow or Saturday as Carlson miraculously recovers the lost material, which now has a story about itself as well as being about the Hunter Biden story. This is how narratives get driven into attention.

Hey, you nailed it. UPS says it found the documents.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:45 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:02 pm

Jaymann wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:48 am Presumably Carlson has a wife and family and goes to church. What would possess him to sell his soul to the devil with this transparently false personal narrative, for the sake of a shit-show grifter?

BTW, don't assume for a second that this "evidence" was actually lost. Today's story is about planting the seed and raising expectations for what's coming.

Expect it to burst into headlines tomorrow or Saturday as Carlson miraculously recovers the lost material, which now has a story about itself as well as being about the Hunter Biden story. This is how narratives get driven into attention.

Hey, you nailed it. UPS says it found the documents.

I can't wait to see this trove of damning documents that they couldn't scan or photocopy. This story is even more preposterous than it was last night. Was there truly an "empty" envelope as he claimed, etc.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:45 pm

Holman wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:02 pm

Jaymann wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:48 am Presumably Carlson has a wife and family and goes to church. What would possess him to sell his soul to the devil with this transparently false personal narrative, for the sake of a shit-show grifter?

BTW, don't assume for a second that this "evidence" was actually lost. Today's story is about planting the seed and raising expectations for what's coming.

Expect it to burst into headlines tomorrow or Saturday as Carlson miraculously recovers the lost material, which now has a story about itself as well as being about the Hunter Biden story. This is how narratives get driven into attention.

Hey, you nailed it. UPS says it found the documents.

Please oh please let them have "found" him a pair of clown shoes.

So the story went from Opened and heavily implied stolen by the 'Deep State' to...just misplaced for a day or two like UPS does all the time? Good work there Tucker.

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:10 pm So the story went from Opened and heavily implied stolen by the 'Deep State' to...just misplaced for a day or two like UPS does all the time? Good work there Tucker.

Wait... so the contents of the mailed package were misplaced, but the package itself was still delivered? Um.... Okay.

Que "that's not how this works" meme...

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:10 pm So the story went from Opened and heavily implied stolen by the 'Deep State' to...just misplaced for a day or two like UPS does all the time? Good work there Tucker.

He will try to reveal his "documents" when it is too late for any extensive analysis before the election. Weak tea. No needle movement except slightly in favor of Biden.

TheMix wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:15 pm

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:10 pm So the story went from Opened and heavily implied stolen by the 'Deep State' to...just misplaced for a day or two like UPS does all the time? Good work there Tucker.

Wait... so the contents of the mailed package were misplaced, but the package itself was still delivered? Um.... Okay.

Que "that's not how this works" meme...

No the story was that the package never arrived and they were told the package had been opened and the contents were gone. Poof. Much like Keyser Söze himself stole them. He heavily implied it was the deep state. Now they found the 'contents' and are returning them. Soon we'll be hearing about how the Deep State tore and removed key sections of the documents...not that a sorting machine ripped the shit out of an envelope and they just recorded it as a lost package.

TheMix wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:15 pm

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:10 pm So the story went from Opened and heavily implied stolen by the 'Deep State' to...just misplaced for a day or two like UPS does all the time? Good work there Tucker.

Wait... so the contents of the mailed package were misplaced, but the package itself was still delivered? Um.... Okay.

Que "that's not how this works" meme...

Not only does that happen sometimes but sometimes a package will deliver with rubber stamps describing the empty package. "package damaged." "package open." "contents missing." stamps on it.

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:19 pmheavily implied it was the deep state.

Have we reached the point at which use of the term 'deep state' acts as an automatic seriousness disqualifier for the speaker? Because I feel like we've reached that point.

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:41 pm

malchior wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:19 pmheavily implied it was the deep state.

Have we reached the point at which use of the term 'deep state' acts as an automatic seriousness disqualifier for the speaker? Because I feel like we've reached that point.

Yes but in this case it doesn't matter. Tucker was disqualified back in the 'Crossfire' days.

Tucker seems destined to keep Hurting America.

I’m not surprised he’s being groomed to run as Baby Hitler.

Seth Abramson is still around?

Brilliant stuff.

pr0ner wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:25 pm Seth Abramson is still around?

Yep and constantly mixing it up with Glenn Greenwald. There are no winners there.

pr0ner wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:25 pm Seth Abramson is still around?

You saw Seth Abramson. I saw Jewel Staite.

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:41 pmHave we reached the point at which use of the term 'deep state' acts as an automatic seriousness disqualifier for the speaker? Because I feel like we've reached that point.

Yes, along with "leftist", "fake news", "mainstream media" and any other signal that someone is a brain dead member of this cult.

RunningMn9 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 5:01 pm

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:41 pmHave we reached the point at which use of the term 'deep state' acts as an automatic seriousness disqualifier for the speaker? Because I feel like we've reached that point.

Yes, along with "leftist", "fake news", "mainstream media" and any other signal that someone is a brain dead member of this cult.

I'm LordMortis and I approve this message.

I guess I'll post this here? This is America.

https://twitter.com/business/status/1321924032426582027

Walmart has temporarily pulled ammunition and guns off its shelves ahead of any possible civil unrest that could take place following next week’s election

Not a problem, just go to your nearest Repugnican ballot box/gun shop.

Zaxxon wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 4:16 pm https://twitter.com/JewelStaite/status/ ... 01024?s=19

It was a nice touch how she re-used the hand sanitizer after repeating "26?!"

Jaymann wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:07 pm Not a problem, just go to your nearest Repugnican ballot box/gun shop.

I don't think they pulled it to keep people from buying. They pulled it in the event of looting.

Wait. So it was electronic media. They had copies of. That could be transmitted instantly. By one of the largest media companies in the world. To an on air personality. By his producer. That they shipped by UPS.

So not only should they fuck the hell right off, but they are proclaiming publicly from the rooftops exactly how objectively stupid they are when it comes handling media as a media company.

Oh and we're still evaluating if we're going to tell you what's on the flash drive.

I wonder what day they'll decide we get to see them. They're running out of time.

He went on tonight to talk about the 'weird circumstances' of the flash drive ending up on a supervisors desk at UPS. Anyway, then he immediately pivoted to a personal story about his own experience with Hunter Biden and says that he doesn't want to pile on Hunter with personal document releases. AKA they have nothing.

Boss Putin got the word out on pivoting.

More likely this NBC News story

https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/stat ... 3462160384


https://mobile.twitter.com/NBCNews/stat ... 1606323201

I'm back to thinking Trump is going to win. PA is too close. This is bad.

stessier wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:15 amI'm back to thinking Trump is going to win. PA is too close. This is bad.

At this point I'm just trying to personally survive the election. I've already cast my ballot into the void. All of my stress indicators are off the charts and it's causing me real pain in the form of constant headaches from tension and loss of concentration due to sleep deprivation.

stessier wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:15 am I'm back to thinking Trump is going to win. PA is too close. This is bad.

PA is probably not going to be that close. Biden is outside the margin of error to the upside and has been for some time. Florida and Georgia have Biden up inside the margin of error and both are run by Trumpists. I'm actually not that worried about the election anymore in the sense that the die is cast there mostly. The next 2 or 3 months might be consequential for the world while the pandemic worsens. Uncertainty about the future couldn't be much higher.