That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://garbi.online/forum/
Something is afoot. The odds of a Biden comeback from this deficit with just a few hundred votes to go is 24 eleventy-billion to one. And the liberal Bezos Amazon Post somehow already knows the outcome. VOTER FRAUD!!!!malchior wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:18 pm I find it deeply unhelpful that outlets like the NY Times have real-time EC vote trackers on their front pages. (Example of a reaction to this new and ultimately stupid trend below). "Expected" EC votes - oh the drama. They are squeezing every drop out of this.
https://twitter.com/tedfrank/status/1338520706406035458
You can have the elector from this part of town too. We're now "New Austin" according to ourselves. Your margin of victory is unassailable and you must be recognized. It's what the Founders intended.Little Raven wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:29 pm I just held an election in my house. By a 3-2 vote, we have determined that I am now the President of the United States. (my wife and daughter voted against, fortunately, I'm the one that feeds the cats!)
We will be sending these results to Congress.
Ignore this "pretender"! By the authority conferred upon me by the legitimate power of law represented by this certificate from a cereal box legally in my possession I hereby declare myself Ruler of these United States. I will be sending my representatives to Congress to inform them of these legitimate results after which there will be a more "streamlined" form of government...geezer wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:29 pmYou can have the elector from this part of town too. We're now "New Austin" according to ourselves. Your margin of victory is unassailable and you must be recognized. It's what the Founders intended.Little Raven wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:29 pm I just held an election in my house. By a 3-2 vote, we have determined that I am now the President of the United States. (my wife and daughter voted against, fortunately, I'm the one that feeds the cats!)
We will be sending these results to Congress.
C'mon, really?Remus West wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:32 pmUntil they nuke an American city I won't think they ave hit their lowest bar. That is the only thing I can believe below them right now. Well....an American city with trump properties anyway. I could see they making glass out of Flint.
While I agree that the current administration and it's leader have no bottom, I think they'd need to have won the vote and be in power for another 4 years before they'd get to that level.pr0ner wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:21 pmC'mon, really?Remus West wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:32 pmUntil they nuke an American city I won't think they ave hit their lowest bar. That is the only thing I can believe below them right now. Well....an American city with trump properties anyway. I could see they making glass out of Flint.
Nuking Iran maybe I could see happening. I think we're pretty safe from self nuking.pr0ner wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:21 pmC'mon, really?Remus West wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:32 pmUntil they nuke an American city I won't think they ave hit their lowest bar. That is the only thing I can believe below them right now. Well....an American city with trump properties anyway. I could see they making glass out of Flint.
Smartmatic, one target of the conspiracy theories that QAnon, right-wing media, the President, and his legal team eagerly embraced, starts down the warpath with a series of demand letters to FNC, OANN, and NewsMax.
Nuking is an obvious hyperbole but I honesty wouldn't be shocked if he tried to order the military to take and hold cities that don't support him such as Detroit via declarations of martial law due to "election fraud". I honestly don't put anything off the table when considering the things he might try to stay in power. His action have made and continue to reinforce the lesson that he cares for nothing else.pr0ner wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:21 pmC'mon, really?Remus West wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:32 pmUntil they nuke an American city I won't think they ave hit their lowest bar. That is the only thing I can believe below them right now. Well....an American city with trump properties anyway. I could see they making glass out of Flint.
I not only do not fault them, I applaud them. Force the liars to admit they are liars.Skinypupy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:58 pm No idea if this will actually bear any fruit, but I certainly don't fault them for trying.
https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/ ... 0425332742
Smartmatic, one target of the conspiracy theories that QAnon, right-wing media, the President, and his legal team eagerly embraced, starts down the warpath with a series of demand letters to FNC, OANN, and NewsMax.
They said that they were the Republican electors there to cast their vote for president. State police declined to let them enter the building or leave votes offered in a manila envelope
Why is Canada trying to undermine our election...Skinypupy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:08 pm
https://twitter.com/rbeggin/status/1338568801554747395
They said that they were the Republican electors there to cast their vote for president. State police declined to let them enter the building or leave votes offered in a manila envelope
We make sure Trump lives within 1 mile of a KFC and 200 miles from any hospital.GungHo wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:34 pm So I guess I just have a lot of questions about what we do, going forward with the next administration, to ensure these shenanigans don't happen again in 2 or 4 years.
This has never been tested, but in theory, If a state can't certify a vote and agree on electors (for whatever reason) then it falls to the newly elected Congress to determine who gets the electoral votes.GungHo wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:34 pmBut what if the one GOP canvasser in Michigan that did agree to certify the vote, decided not to?
IANAL, but generally speaking, we do not want to discourage lawyers from zealously defending their clients (no matter how batshit their clients are) because we don't want to create a situation where lawyers are afraid to defend unpopular people.Also, why haven't the lawyers associated with all of these baseless filings not been censured? Had their bar association removed? Anything punitive?
Not quite. What'd happen is a member of Congress would lodge an objection. The House and Senate would then go back to their respective chambers for a debate. Each would ultimately vote separately - majority rules. If they disagree then the certification of the Governor will stand. This was why State certification was such a big deal potentially. Details here.Little Raven wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:55 pmThis has never been tested, but in theory, If a state can't certify a vote and agree on electors (for whatever reason) then it falls to the newly elected Congress to determine who gets the electoral votes.GungHo wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:34 pmBut what if the one GOP canvasser in Michigan that did agree to certify the vote, decided not to?
So if Michigan had failed to agree, Pelosi would have determined how to allot Michigan's electoral votes. As you might imagine, that's a pretty strong incentive for a state to ultimately get its act together.
The Nevada Presidential Electors have officially cast their ballots for Joseph Biden for President and Kamala Harris for Vice President.
The Nevada Secretary of State held the Electors meeting virtually on Zoom due to the pandemic.
Some websites are sharing that President Donald Trump just won Nevada and the electors flipped for him. But this isn’t accurate. What actually happened was a slate of Republican electors cast their vote for Trump, but those votes were only symbolic. They won’t count in the Electoral College since President-elect Joe Biden won Nevada and Nevada law notes that the electoral votes are granted in a winner-takes-all manner. Some Republicans have said that their votes were cast as alternates in case court challenges are successful.
IANAFL either but I see two issues. One of defending idiots and the other of being an idiot themselves. Lawyers should be free to defend their clients but they aren't free to bring suits that aren't even remotely valid. Attempting to hijack courts to perpetuate a political narrative and foment unrest certainly seems censurable.Little Raven wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:55 pmIANAL, but generally speaking, we do not want to discourage lawyers from zealously defending their clients (no matter how batshit their clients are) because we don't want to create a situation where lawyers are afraid to defend unpopular people.GungHo wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 4:34 pmAlso, why haven't the lawyers associated with all of these baseless filings not been censured? Had their bar association removed? Anything punitive?
I'm going to symbolically suggest these individuals are jailed indefinitely until we can decide if firing squad or gallows are more appropriate.Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:25 pm Heavy
Some websites are sharing that President Donald Trump just won Nevada and the electors flipped for him. But this isn’t accurate. What actually happened was a slate of Republican electors cast their vote for Trump, but those votes were only symbolic. They won’t count in the Electoral College since President-elect Joe Biden won Nevada and Nevada law notes that the electoral votes are granted in a winner-takes-all manner. Some Republicans have said that their votes were cast as alternates in case court challenges are successful.
His full statement is here.Holman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:34 pm https://twitter.com/PolarBarrett/status ... 82434?s=20
More of this please.
Well, he's retiring in 17 days, so I'm not sure this is the courage I was looking for.Holman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:34 pm https://twitter.com/PolarBarrett/status ... 82434?s=20
More of this please.
stessier wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:43 pmWell, he's retiring in 17 days, so I'm not sure this is the courage I was looking for.Holman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:34 pm https://twitter.com/PolarBarrett/status ... 82434?s=20
More of this please.
I didn't realize he was on his way out the door.Democrats have traditionally been enemies of tort-reform measures. Maybe this will bring the two parties together?LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 5:29 pmLawyers should be free to defend their clients but they aren't free to bring suits that aren't even remotely valid.
Next up: Congressional shit show on January 6, with Pence as Master of Defecation.Skinypupy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:42 pm Electoral College Affirms Biden Victory As Trump Continues Baseless Challenges
Relieved (and a little surprised, tbh) that today's certification went off largely without incident.
watGrifman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:12 pm Though that sounds crazy, it's not the craziest thing I've read. That would be the "shootout" between the US military and CIA operatives at the "server farm" in Germany, when the military seized the server that was collecting US voting information and then sending it back to defraud the election. According to this story, not only were 5 army soldiers and one CIA operative were killed in the raid, but for some wild reason, Gina Haspell, CIA Director was also there and was wounded in the shootout and arrested. She was then taken to Guantanamo, interrogated and broke, and agreed to work with Trump in revealing and dismantling the election fraud scheme.
There are more batshit crazy conspiracy theories out there now than that.Skinypupy wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:20 pmwatGrifman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:12 pm Though that sounds crazy, it's not the craziest thing I've read. That would be the "shootout" between the US military and CIA operatives at the "server farm" in Germany, when the military seized the server that was collecting US voting information and then sending it back to defraud the election. According to this story, not only were 5 army soldiers and one CIA operative were killed in the raid, but for some wild reason, Gina Haspell, CIA Director was also there and was wounded in the shootout and arrested. She was then taken to Guantanamo, interrogated and broke, and agreed to work with Trump in revealing and dismantling the election fraud scheme.
There are Chinese troops from Canada invading Maine:pr0ner wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:58 pm There are more batshit crazy conspiracy theories out there now than that.
QAnon is a fertile field! By which I mean it is full of shit.Grifman wrote: Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:12 pm It really is fascinating and disturbing at the same time, watching the ramblings of the other side. Some are impatient, wondering why they keep losing in court, questioning what Giuliani and Powell are doing. Others say, "Have faith, we're keeping to the plan", though that plan keeps shifting as the court losses pile up and no real progress other than losing is made. Even the EC votes doesn't dissuade some of them. The latest "plan" is that the casting of "illegal" EC votes is what is needed for arrest and trial for conspiracy of the Biden/Harris fraud team. Trump had to let them vote so that the "crime" would be complete, this is just another example of his "5d chess", and ability to think in the long term. They are waiting for Trump's recent EO that requires the DNI to submit a report on foreign electoral interference with 45 days after an election. When that report is soon released, it supposedly will be a bombshell,and the arrests will start.
Though that sounds crazy, it's not the craziest thing I've read. That would be the "shootout" between the US military and CIA operatives at the "server farm" in Germany, when the military seized the server that was collecting US voting information and then sending it back to defraud the election. According to this story, not only were 5 army soldiers and one CIA operative were killed in the raid, but for some wild reason, Gina Haspell, CIA Director was also there and was wounded in the shootout and arrested. She was then taken to Guantanamo, interrogated and broke, and agreed to work with Trump in revealing and dismantling the election fraud scheme. I kid you not, there were people lapping this s*** up. Trumpism truly is an insane cult.