Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:24 pm
by YellowKing
Re: that Pennsylvania article:
“Some party officials say to me: ‘America is an English-speaking country. Why would we talk to voters in Spanish?,’” said one frustrated Republican. “I reply, ‘Because we want to win?’”
Racists gonna racist, I guess.
This is why I think Harris has an excellent chance of stealing NC. We've seen a Hispanic population boom here since 2020.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Remember how republicans swore up and down that after the assassination attempt, Trump was acting more like an elder statesman?
...yeah, neither do I.
Funny how that is his topic because so many have commented that the closest he gets laugh to laughter and joy is at the misery of others. Much like his plans to fix things, these things don't exist until other bring it up, then he thinks he's clever being reactionary with no actual substance. How's about those first 100 day plans? Infrastructure and the mystery superior in every way replacement for the ACA?... Kinda like the stuff Obama did before you and Biden did after?
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Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 3:39 pm
by Holman
Unagi wrote: Sun Aug 18, 2024 12:38 pm
Am I the only one who can look at that image of Trump and immediately understand that he is dancing?
I've seen Trump's signature dance move called the "Double Handjob."
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2024 7:37 pm
by hepcat
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:06 pm
by Alefroth
He's a terrible communicator.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:09 pm
by Carpet_pissr
Gah....he just doesn't get it. And I'm trying to be SUPER careful about my bias against him here, but...is anyone else picking up on that same old "the wounded and dead" are gross and losers...ICK! THESE people are healthy and alive and POPULAR. Or something like that. God...if my instincts are right...just incredible. And he doesn't see it!!
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:14 pm
by Unagi
I heard he once communicated so poorly that a big, tough guy cried.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:17 pm
by Unagi
Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:09 pm
Gah....he just doesn't get it. And I'm trying to be SUPER careful about my bias against him here, but...is anyone else picking up on that same old "the wounded and dead" are gross and losers...ICK! THESE people are healthy and alive and POPULAR. Or something like that. God...if my instincts are right...just incredible. And he doesn't see it!!
If I'm being honest and generous - I think he just has lived his whole life trying to "get it all without any cost", that he honestly can't see -any point- for anyone ever to step up and make a sacrifice, unless they are stupid. In his experience, there will always be someone else there to do that, and there would be no point ever in being the one. It's that simple. He assumes everyone sees it that way. Even vets.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:45 pm
by Jaymann
I have seen videos of people in his ever decreasing crowds falling asleep and leaving early. I'm sure he will claim it was "A.I.'d."
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 6:18 pm
by waitingtoconnect
Jaymann wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:45 pm
I have seen videos of people in his ever decreasing crowds falling asleep and leaving early. I'm sure he will claim it was "A.I.'d."
remember trump's outraged baseless claim that Harris had used an AI manipulated picture of the crowd at the airport?
cos he certain doesn't.
Instead he spreads a picture of Taylor Swift supporting him,
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:33 pm
by Alefroth
I hope she feels her hand is forced.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 8:37 pm
by Holman
Alefroth wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:33 pm
I hope she feels her hand is forced.
She might feel that an endorsement is outside of her wheelhouse, but her only political tweets between 2016-2020 were explicit attacks on Trump. There's no ambiguity at all in her position.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Alefroth wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 7:33 pm
I hope she feels her hand is forced.
She might feel that an endorsement is outside of her wheelhouse, but her only political tweets between 2016-2020 were explicit attacks on Trump. There's no ambiguity at all in her position.
In 2020, she endorsed Biden. Before that she endorsed a governor.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:03 pm
by YellowKing
I saw a tweet today (don't have a source) that she has her lawyers all over it. I REALLY hope that's true.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:06 pm
by LordMortis
YellowKing wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 9:03 pm
I saw a tweet today (don't have a source) that she has her lawyers all over it. I REALLY hope that's true.
That would be awesome. I would love to see her sue, if nothing else because of the lower left image. Assuming he broadcast it as part of his campaign through his social media. He can't call that satire.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:09 pm
by Blackhawk
Libel? Defamation?
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:15 pm
by Unagi
trademark infringement
also, she could probably get a judge to issue a temporary injunction to take it down (if that's her main desire)
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 1:54 am
by Jaymann
From the Ugly files:
Apparently DonOld is forsaking any actual campaigning to hold some kind of counter programming to the DNC in Chicago. In front of a building on which he committed tax fraud no less.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 12:07 pm
by Kurth
Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:15 pm
trademark infringement
also, she could probably get a judge to issue a temporary injunction to take it down (if that's her main desire)
It's not trademark infringement, but it is a violation of Swift's "right of publicity." ROP rights vary from state to state. There's no federal protection or scheme of protection. That said, this looks like a pretty clear ROP violation. And Taylor has very good lawyers and is not afraid to use them.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 5:01 pm
by waitingtoconnect
Anybody want to guess why their maga Fox News loving friends aren’t outraged by trumps veteran comments?
It the Ol’ Bone Spurs Channel is happy to attack Walz for not completing his promotion paperwork and not being psychic enough to realise the Iraq war was going to happen.
Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:15 pm
trademark infringement
also, she could probably get a judge to issue a temporary injunction to take it down (if that's her main desire)
It's not trademark infringement, but it is a violation of Swift's "right of publicity." ROP rights vary from state to state. There's no federal protection or scheme of protection. That said, this looks like a pretty clear ROP violation. And Taylor has very good lawyers and is not afraid to use them.
Nothing that a good endorsement won’t fix. And it’s cheaper than lawyers.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Unagi wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 10:15 pm
trademark infringement
also, she could probably get a judge to issue a temporary injunction to take it down (if that's her main desire)
It's not trademark infringement, but it is a violation of Swift's "right of publicity." ROP rights vary from state to state. There's no federal protection or scheme of protection. That said, this looks like a pretty clear ROP violation. And Taylor has very good lawyers and is not afraid to use them.
Nothing that a good endorsement won’t fix. And it’s cheaper than lawyers.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
So we effectively have two presidents. We have two presidents both making policy?
Surely this is illegal? Can you imagine if Clinton had done this?
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:10 pm
by LordMortis
Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:00 pm
No one has ever been successfully prosecuted for violating the Logan Act. No one has been charged under it since 1852.
There's always a first time and lord knows there ought to be. Let's draft him and give him to IDF and have him go fight.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Trump has allegedly been talking with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to avert a cease-fire deal, fearing that doing so could help Vice President Kamala Harris win in November, according to PBS.
“The reporting is that former President Trump is on the phone with the Prime Minister of Israel, urging him not to cut a deal right now, because it’s believed that would help the Harris campaign,” said PBS’s Judy Woodruff Monday night. “So, I don’t know where—who knows whether that will come about or not, but I have to think that the Harris campaign would like for President Biden to do what presidents do, and that’s to work on that one.”
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:31 pm
by Unagi
Just unbelievable. wait. not the right word.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:37 pm
by dfs
waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:05 pm
Surely this is illegal? Can you imagine if Clinton had done this?
By all accounts Reagan did it with the Iranian hostages. It's standard Republican playbook. Rules and Laws apply to other people, not them.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:05 pm
Surely this is illegal? Can you imagine if Clinton had done this?
By all accounts Reagan did it with the Iranian hostages. It's standard Republican playbook. Rules and Laws apply to other people, not them.
Except it wasn't a talking point at their debates - hopefully there is something to really pin on Trump on this - and it's actually talked about on the media.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
waitingtoconnect wrote: Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:05 pm
Surely this is illegal? Can you imagine if Clinton had done this?
By all accounts Reagan did it with the Iranian hostages. It's standard Republican playbook. Rules and Laws apply to other people, not them.
In 1968, then-candidate Nixon sent minions to meet with South Vietnamese officials and sabotage peace talks with Hanoi. This was in order to keep Vietnam alive as a campaign issue against LBJ (and then Humphrey after LBJ declined to seek re-election).
It's a pretty close parallel to today.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2024 9:58 pm
by Grifman
The worst thing for a candidate such as Trump is that they be seen as “boring”:
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:45 pm
by hepcat
Which then took me to the equally hilarious story of Dean Browning.
Lesson of the day: log out of your real account before trying to post incendiary comments on the fake account you created for the purposes of outright lying.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:49 pm
by LordMortis
He lists himself as political commentator with a half million followers. Am I supposed to know who the sleazeball is?
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2024 12:59 pm
by hepcat
Not if you're 500,001.
Re: Trump 2024 Campaign - The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly.
