New WW Variant-Wild Wild West - Roles are out - Game on!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:27 pm

Vorret wrote:I'm inclined to believe this, plus, if we all vote for NC we don't need Seer protection

or let RMC shoot him.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:27 pm

Wow. Ok then. If there's a different seer out there I think they should come forward and announce themselves as well. But since Punisher wasn't really taking much heat I think it's pretty likely that he's telling the truth.

Assuming that he is, probably worth using RMC's shot on Newcastle and then using the Sheriff to protect Punisher, right?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:30 pm

*If* we believe all claims so far :

Good :
Holman - Dead
Vorret - Drunk
Punisher - Seer
RMC - Outlaw
Lassr - Lawyer

Evil :
Newcastle

Unknown :
El Guapo
Unagi
Scoop

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Vorret wrote:*If* we believe all claims so far :

Good :
Holman - Dead
Vorret - Drunk
Punisher - Seer
RMC - Outlaw
Lassr - Lawyer

Evil :
Newcastle

Unknown :
El Guapo
Unagi
Scoop

Let's shoot Scoop!!!!

Or Newcastle, I am cool with either one.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:33 pm

So, assuming you believe me and assuming RMC shoots (or maybe not if NC gets all the votes)

what is the consensus on who I should scan tonight (my vote is not needed in the above 2 scenarios)

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:33 pm

El Guapo wrote:Wow. Ok then. If there's a different seer out there I think they should come forward and announce themselves as well. But since Punisher wasn't really taking much heat I think it's pretty likely that he's telling the truth.

Assuming that he is, probably worth using RMC's shot on Newcastle and then using the Sheriff to protect Punisher, right?

I am cool with this, and I think Scoop is the other wolf if Punisher is telling the truth.

Scoop was either quiet cuz he was a wolf, which is really not his style, but I figure he is putting me off my game, or he was the seer. Since he is not the seer, he must be the wolf!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:36 pm

I'd scan either Unagi or El Guapo at this point, maybe Unagi first since he has a habit of gaining the confidence of the group.
We may have a few false claims here and there though (and tomorrow we'll know whether you're lying or not)

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:36 pm

Punisher wrote:So, assuming you believe me and assuming RMC shoots (or maybe not if NC gets all the votes)

what is the consensus on who I should scan tonight (my vote is not needed in the above 2 scenarios)

Scoop!!!

And no votes matter tonight, for I will shoot Newcastle!

5. Outlaw - Auto kill vote 1 time per game. This will take the place of the kill. The outlaw submits 2 names - if one name is the Sherriff's then the Sherriff is automatically chosen for the kill. The auto kill is negated and used up if the person chosen was protected by the Sherriff. The person with the most votes will die instead.

I have my choice on who to use as choice two, since we know who is not the sheriff by virtue of claims. I guess the wolfs know who might be the sheriff as well. But we can handle that Thursday.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:40 pm

Vorret wrote:I'd scan either Unagi or El Guapo at this point, maybe Unagi first since he has a habit of gaining the confidence of the group.
We may have a few false claims here and there though (and tomorrow we'll know whether you're lying or not)

No one listens to the town drunk.....

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:41 pm

It doesn't say, but what happens when you put 2 names in and neither is the Sheriff.. Do both die or you get to choose your main target?

If you choose then it's simple..
NC and me. This will definitively prove one of us.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:41 pm

RMC wrote:
Punisher wrote:So, assuming you believe me and assuming RMC shoots (or maybe not if NC gets all the votes)

what is the consensus on who I should scan tonight (my vote is not needed in the above 2 scenarios)
Scoop!!!

And no votes matter tonight, for I will shoot Newcastle!

5. Outlaw - Auto kill vote 1 time per game. This will take the place of the kill. The outlaw submits 2 names - if one name is the Sherriff's then the Sherriff is automatically chosen for the kill. The auto kill is negated and used up if the person chosen was protected by the Sherriff. The person with the most votes will die instead.

I have my choice on who to use as choice two, since we know who is not the sheriff by virtue of claims. I guess the wolfs know who might be the sheriff as well. But we can handle that Thursday.

I misread your power, so we have zero worry about who dies tonight if you kill someone, am I understanding right?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:42 pm

Punisher wrote:It doesn't say, but what happens when you put 2 names in and neither is the Sheriff.. Do both die or you get to choose your main target?

If you choose then it's simple..
NC and me. This will definitively prove one of us.

The first one dies if none are the sheriff I remember seeing that somewhere

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:45 pm

Vorret wrote:
Punisher wrote:It doesn't say, but what happens when you put 2 names in and neither is the Sheriff.. Do both die or you get to choose your main target?

If you choose then it's simple..
NC and me. This will definitively prove one of us.
The first one dies if none are the sheriff I remember seeing that somewhere

BB can you confirm how that works?

RMC, if this is the case...Make sure you put the names in the correct order..

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:47 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.

there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm

Vorret wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.
there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)

Cool... As long as RMC puts the names in the correct order we are fine.. and if RMC is NOT the outlaw somehow, the real one should do this as we are down to 1 wolf then. Worst case, I am lying and you guys off me tomorrow.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:51 pm

It would have been insanely dumb to fake the outlaw role on day one since the real outlaw would simply have killed the spoofer that night so there's zero reason to doubt RMC.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:58 pm

Vorret wrote:It would have been insanely dumb to fake the outlaw role on day one since the real outlaw would simply have killed the spoofer that night so there's zero reason to doubt RMC.

Remember there is not a guaranteed outlaw in the game, only that there would be only one.

I mean I am the outlaw, and when we see poor wolfy newcastle sprawled out with a bullet hole in his forehead, I shall be proven. But there could not have been an outlaw..

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:00 pm

RMC wrote:
Vorret wrote:It would have been insanely dumb to fake the outlaw role on day one since the real outlaw would simply have killed the spoofer that night so there's zero reason to doubt RMC.
Remember there is not a guaranteed outlaw in the game, only that there would be only one.

I mean I am the outlaw, and when we see poor wolfy newcastle sprawled out with a bullet hole in his forehead, I shall be proven. But there could not have been an outlaw..

Ohh, you're right, good point, oh well , you'll be proven soon enough.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:01 pm

Still would be a dumb role to spoof on day one, my point stands.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:02 pm

Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.
there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)
Cool... As long as RMC puts the names in the correct order we are fine.. and if RMC is NOT the outlaw somehow, the real one should do this as we are down to 1 wolf then. Worst case, I am lying and you guys off me tomorrow.

COUNTERPOINT: It would be hilarious if RMC accidentally put the names in the wrong order and shot the wrong person by accident. Especially if it were himself, although I'm pretty sure that you can't name yourself as the second (as that would eliminate the whole Outlaw drawback).

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:13 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.
there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)
Cool... As long as RMC puts the names in the correct order we are fine.. and if RMC is NOT the outlaw somehow, the real one should do this as we are down to 1 wolf then. Worst case, I am lying and you guys off me tomorrow.
COUNTERPOINT: It would be hilarious if RMC accidentally put the names in the wrong order and shot the wrong person by accident. Especially if it were himself, although I'm pretty sure that you can't name yourself as the second (as that would eliminate the whole Outlaw drawback).

Ah..yes. hah ha.. it would be funny... not... I'm leaning towards scanning you tonight now!

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:14 pm

Punisher wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.
there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)
Cool... As long as RMC puts the names in the correct order we are fine.. and if RMC is NOT the outlaw somehow, the real one should do this as we are down to 1 wolf then. Worst case, I am lying and you guys off me tomorrow.
COUNTERPOINT: It would be hilarious if RMC accidentally put the names in the wrong order and shot the wrong person by accident. Especially if it were himself, although I'm pretty sure that you can't name yourself as the second (as that would eliminate the whole Outlaw drawback).

Ah..yes. hah ha.. it would be funny... not... I'm leaning towards scanning you tonight now!

Nobody appreciates great comedy.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:16 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Punisher wrote:
El Guapo wrote:
Punisher wrote:
Vorret wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Unagi wrote: bb, so is it 'the most votes' or is a majority needed still?
Most votes, and if there are ties with the most votes, then all the top voters get killed. Supposed to be a quick game.

Unagi wrote: Also - the Outlaw seems to not really be helpful for the good guys at all? does his power only kill the sheriff? not sure if I get his role.
He has the one time ability to kill someone. Being an outlaw, if in the confusion he can off the Sherriff, then he is going to do it. He submits 2 names, if the second name on his list is the Sherriff, then the Sherriff will get killed instead of whomever was at the top of the list. Otherwise his first choice will be killed.
there you go Punisher, knew I read that somewhere

(page 2 if anyone doesn't believe me)
Cool... As long as RMC puts the names in the correct order we are fine.. and if RMC is NOT the outlaw somehow, the real one should do this as we are down to 1 wolf then. Worst case, I am lying and you guys off me tomorrow.
COUNTERPOINT: It would be hilarious if RMC accidentally put the names in the wrong order and shot the wrong person by accident. Especially if it were himself, although I'm pretty sure that you can't name yourself as the second (as that would eliminate the whole Outlaw drawback).

Ah..yes. hah ha.. it would be funny... not... I'm leaning towards scanning you tonight now!
Nobody appreciates great comedy.

Sorry.. There was no town fool role listed...

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:21 pm

I can't see a reason to hide thus info. I am the politician. I'm pretty sure there can only be one. I voted to deflect a vote off me last night.

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Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:31 pm

That... doesn't make sense.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:32 pm

nevermind, nobody vote for you. carry one, it makes sense

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:55 pm

Vorret wrote:nevermind, nobody vote for you. carry one, it makes sense

I threatened to vote for him.

But if everyone is telling the truth and no one ever lies in these games.

It means that Unagi or El Guapo is the wolf, right?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:57 pm

oops... Nope I am wrong.. Here we go:

1. Vorret - Drunk
2. Punisher - Seer
3. Scoop - Politician
4. El Guapo - ?
5. Unagi - ?
6. Newcastle - Wolfy (Alpha)
7. RMC - Outlaw
8. Holman - Dead
9. Lassr - ?

Forgot about Lassr

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:57 pm

RMC wrote:
Vorret wrote:nevermind, nobody vote for you. carry one, it makes sense
I threatened to vote for him.

But if everyone is telling the truth and no one ever lies in these games.

It means that Unagi or El Guapo is the wolf, right?

No, I mean, what I was about to say is you can't be the politician since the vote ended 3 vs 3 for RMC/Holman so it wouldn't have made sense if he switched a vote but it makes sense if nobody voted for him.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:57 pm

RMC wrote:oops... Nope I am wrong.. Here we go:

1. Vorret - Drunk
2. Punisher - Seer
3. Scoop - Politician
4. El Guapo - ?
5. Unagi - ?
6. Newcastle - Wolfy (Alpha)
7. RMC - Outlaw
8. Holman - Dead
9. Lassr - ?

Forgot about Lassr

Lassr claimed Lawyer, check again

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:02 pm

Vorret wrote:
RMC wrote:oops... Nope I am wrong.. Here we go:

1. Vorret - Drunk
2. Punisher - Seer
3. Scoop - Politician
4. El Guapo - ?
5. Unagi - ?
6. Newcastle - Wolfy (Alpha)
7. RMC - Outlaw
8. Holman - Dead
9. Lassr - ?

Forgot about Lassr
Lassr claimed Lawyer, check again

So I was right the first time. Knew it.... But I don't trust Scoop. He smells like a Red Rocket to me...

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:13 pm

/sigh

This is interesting....and i think we've just won....

.....i am the seer....unagi is the alpha wolf.....that's why i was focused on him earlier in the day i wanted to get some traction on him and was hoping to get folks voting toward a consensus. Either punisher panicked and tried to protect him

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:14 pm

sorry didn't finish my thought wanted to get this out...but somehow punisher panicked when he did this....maybe he saw that i was too focused on unagi...can't say. BUT>....this rocks! I wanted to see how folks would react if unagi was in the noose, and well it worked.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:16 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:I am the politician. I'm pretty sure there can only be one.

There can be only one outlaw, sheriff and seer.

all others can be duplicate if I understand correctly.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:19 pm

I'm just a little bit bummed that i am out this early since i had some ideas on how to play and plant stuff .... BUTTTT we've won and its just a formiality....so we can get on to Lassr's game....so i guess i can get over it...just never been the seer...so its bitter sweet....

BUTTTTTT and here's the part where i am STOKED! But Newcastle just dropped 2 wolves in uyour laps....so now....newcastling will be synonimous of pulling a frickign rabbit out of your hat and bringing home to the game to the good guys home.

can i get a WOOT! WOOT!
say what?

I plan on dropping a vote on punisher or unagi but we should focus fire here.

Newcastle just newcastled the game for the village!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:21 pm

Can i get a woot...woot!

how bout them apples eh?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:22 pm

Legendary will now be known as Newcastle!

As in this was a newcastle of a move!

Thank you punisher! THank you unagi!

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:27 pm

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:27 pm