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Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
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jztemple2 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:14 pmAlthough I recognize "The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer" I just can't place the Hudid reference.
By the way, Shirley Temple was a babe once she quit being a babe, if you get what I mean![]()
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Didn't see the new page, so then I'll just change that response to
Or I could go with the last song by Aerosmith (30 Years ago, Crazy) released concurrent with them becoming both an unlistenable hard rock and an unlistenable rock ballad band for my tastes. (I used to be a big Aerosmith fan... Done with Mirrors and then Pump were where I pretty much turned my back on them and moved on to music underground. In some weird way Pump brought me to discovering Pretty Hate Machine, Land of Rape and Honey, Nothing's Shocking, Love and Rockets and Beezebubba which were the five albums that totally changed the direction of my musical appreciation)
jztemple2 wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:14 pm Shirley Temple was a babe once she quit being a babe, if you get what I mean![]()
Or I could go with the last song by Aerosmith (30 Years ago, Crazy) released concurrent with them becoming both an unlistenable hard rock and an unlistenable rock ballad band for my tastes. (I used to be a big Aerosmith fan... Done with Mirrors and then Pump were where I pretty much turned my back on them and moved on to music underground. In some weird way Pump brought me to discovering Pretty Hate Machine, Land of Rape and Honey, Nothing's Shocking, Love and Rockets and Beezebubba which were the five albums that totally changed the direction of my musical appreciation)
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I really, really had to go to bed last night, and I have errands to run during the day, so it won't be till this evening that I'll get a chance to grab the Kingdom of Wales
. Last night I deposed the King of the Danelaw after he was excommunicated by the pope. I got neither land nor gold, but I did get Piety and chewed up the Danelaw army pretty good, so after that war I attacked again to take some more land. Now I just have to war five more years to attack again
So anyway, after those two wars, I was checking through my list of possible opponents I could attack and there was the King of Wales. And because I have enough Prestige I can go after not just a county or duchy, but the whole freaking Kingdom
. His army is about two-thirds the size of mine, not ideal, but he has no allies and I have five. And for the chance to become the King of Wales, I'll spend the Prestige I need to call them all up. It would be my fourth Kingdom. Woo-hoo! But I have to do it fast, my ruler is seventy and doesn't have much time left.


So anyway, after those two wars, I was checking through my list of possible opponents I could attack and there was the King of Wales. And because I have enough Prestige I can go after not just a county or duchy, but the whole freaking Kingdom

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So did you get to install a new King of the Danelaw? Is this like medieval regime change?
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No, the new king was selected by their succession laws already.El Guapo wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:02 pm So did you get to install a new King of the Danelaw? Is this like medieval regime change?
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Ok. So was the primary goal to gain piety, or was it just to take the Danelaw down a notch?
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Both reasons actually. The pope liked that I got rid of the king and I was happy to take advantage of the situation.El Guapo wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:26 pmOk. So was the primary goal to gain piety, or was it just to take the Danelaw down a notch?
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And we've taken Wales!

High King Fuacarta, at 75 years old, now holds four kingdoms and four petty kingdoms (essentially duchies). And my wife is pregnant!

Now the tricky part. I have two more duchy-equivalents than is good for me to hold, since that annoys my vassals. And I have three holdings over my limit of seven. Time to do some careful redistribution of titles.
High King Fuacarta, at 75 years old, now holds four kingdoms and four petty kingdoms (essentially duchies). And my wife is pregnant!
Now the tricky part. I have two more duchy-equivalents than is good for me to hold, since that annoys my vassals. And I have three holdings over my limit of seven. Time to do some careful redistribution of titles.
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uhhhh...Syria is ruling most of Denmark and part of the Netherlands? Is that a crusade gone horribly wrong?
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Most likely, that's where the last Crusade was headed, Syria. I sent in some gold on that one and kept out of it, the Pope's army looked like it was heading into some dangerous territory. When you are outnumbered by about twenty thousand soldiers you might want to think about your options.El Guapo wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 6:04 pm uhhhh...Syria is ruling most of Denmark and part of the Netherlands? Is that a crusade gone horribly wrong?
And for my High King Fuacarta, now 77, one last war to grab a title and a county from the Danelaw. And sadly I have been notified that my king has less that one year to live (one of the Education Trait perks). So now it's just doing some clean up and hoping my heir doesn't screw up too much

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And, as expected, I have died:


His predecessor High King Ercåed was also Exalted among Men, but his Level of Devotion: SinnerHigh King Fuacarta of Ireland has found peace in Christ's embrace at 77 years of age. He died of old age. Known to be a respected scholar, he spent most of his days studying in his library, rarely leaving his castle. Played: 1307-1345 (38 years).
Has fought in 27 Wars, 11 offensive Wars, 16 defensive Wars.
Level of Devotion: Paragon of Virtue
Level of Fame: Exalted among Men

Being thought of as greedy might be only half of High King Jordan's problem...High King Jordan ascends to the throne. A greedy man, he is unlikely to garner the favor from the peasantry of the realm.

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Good luck with that. I hear chewing on the carpet is a good way to disguise foaming at the mouth.
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And as if that wasn't enough problems for High King Jordan, look what has happened to Ireland!

The Kingdoms of Aquitaine and Wales have passed to the two year old son of the now passed High King Fuacarta, splitting (perhaps fatally) the power of the Irish throne. The new King Patrick mac Magdalena of Aquitaine is the nephew of High King Jordan. Time will tell. It's that damn Tanistry Elector system, which apparently I can't get rid of. High King Fuacarta as one of his last acts did establish Primogeniture inheritance, but because of Tanistry the inheritance only covers those titles that don't pass to the Tanistry heir. What a mess!
The Kingdoms of Aquitaine and Wales have passed to the two year old son of the now passed High King Fuacarta, splitting (perhaps fatally) the power of the Irish throne. The new King Patrick mac Magdalena of Aquitaine is the nephew of High King Jordan. Time will tell. It's that damn Tanistry Elector system, which apparently I can't get rid of. High King Fuacarta as one of his last acts did establish Primogeniture inheritance, but because of Tanistry the inheritance only covers those titles that don't pass to the Tanistry heir. What a mess!
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I blame that bitch, Eleanor.
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Why is most of Ireland within the Kingdom Title of Aquitane? Or of Wales?
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Well, the good thing is, I have only five vassals of which only two are feudal. So no big scramble to fight over council seats.
The bad new is that while there are only two factions opposing me, they are both at 1000% (that's one thousand percent) military power. So I have revolts in my future, which I suspect won't be very long.

The bad new is that while there are only two factions opposing me, they are both at 1000% (that's one thousand percent) military power. So I have revolts in my future, which I suspect won't be very long.

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My previous king held the kingdoms of Ireland, Wales, Aquitaine and Alba. When that king died the Tanistry Elective process selected an heir that was not my eldest son, so only two of the kingdoms (Ireland and Alba) went to the Tanistry Elective heir, which is now my new character. Everything else (Aquitaine and Wales) went to that oldest son, whom I am not playing.El Guapo wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2020 11:23 pm Why is most of Ireland within the Kingdom Title of Aquitane? Or of Wales?
UPDATE: The "Strategies" section at the bottom of the linked page explains things better than I can.
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Man this just gets worse and worse. For instance, about my wife...


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Seriously?? I just started the job and I'm already way overstressed?


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If your spouse were possessed, you’d need that stress reliever as well.
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As expected, Prince Czernin has sent me an ultimatum. Look at what he wants!

Well, I'm not going down without a fight. He has about two thousand more troops than I do, but I can hire mercenaries to make up the difference.
I will lead my troops into battle! To war!
Well, I'm not going down without a fight. He has about two thousand more troops than I do, but I can hire mercenaries to make up the difference.
I will lead my troops into battle! To war!

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I won the war against Prince Czernin, threw him in jail for rebelling against his liege and stripped him of his titles. I then had to do some judicious moving around of titles to get rid of my excess duchy without creating another powerful vassal to deal with. I now have only one really powerful vassal who happens to be both my half-sister and the Empress of the Holy Roman Empire
. She is of course allied with her husband the emperor but I can't get him to ally with me. Still, she has over three thousand troops at her disposal so it will pay to keep her happy.

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Prince Czernin has died in my dungeon, good riddance to he who was once my most powerful vassal and rose up in rebellion against me.
I completed a pilgrimage to the Vatican to raise my piety and get my Archbishop to like me more so I can get some money from him.
I've got about a hundred years left in this playthrough but I've rather burned out on the game for now, having reached one hundred hours(!) which is quite a lot for me on any game at its initial release. I'll go as far as I can, but when you go from four kingdoms to two, things just aren't as exciting
I completed a pilgrimage to the Vatican to raise my piety and get my Archbishop to like me more so I can get some money from him.
I've got about a hundred years left in this playthrough but I've rather burned out on the game for now, having reached one hundred hours(!) which is quite a lot for me on any game at its initial release. I'll go as far as I can, but when you go from four kingdoms to two, things just aren't as exciting

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My Buryat dynasty in the far northwest is still hanging on. They're smaller than they were at their peak, but have managed to switch to a feudal system and things are somewhat stable.
At one point, my long-lived Khagan saw his death coming and managed to put down a major rebellion just before his death. That left a whole bunch of rebellious nobles languishing in prison when his son -- his cruel, sadistic son -- came to power. At which point I discovered the button that lets you execute every single one of your prisoners in one fell swoop. 20 rolling heads later, and the new Khagan was hated and feared by literally everyone!
Sadly, he died just 5 years after taking the throne, so I wasn't able to fully plumb/exploit the depths of his cruelty. Still, it was a nice change of pace from my usual diplomatic approach.
At one point, my long-lived Khagan saw his death coming and managed to put down a major rebellion just before his death. That left a whole bunch of rebellious nobles languishing in prison when his son -- his cruel, sadistic son -- came to power. At which point I discovered the button that lets you execute every single one of your prisoners in one fell swoop. 20 rolling heads later, and the new Khagan was hated and feared by literally everyone!
Sadly, he died just 5 years after taking the throne, so I wasn't able to fully plumb/exploit the depths of his cruelty. Still, it was a nice change of pace from my usual diplomatic approach.
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This is something I've found in my playthrough, that the character you control often needs to be played very differently due to traits, education and gained attributes. My very evil king could murder pretty easily, but my current one not only has a default poor chance of success, the stress he gains just for starting the scheme can literally be life threatening.AWS260 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:47 pm Still, it was a nice change of pace from my usual diplomatic approach.
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Re: Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
Another good article from PC Gamer: 7 interesting and unusual Crusader Kings 3 characters to try
Crusader Kings 3 is nice enough to offer you some suggested starting characters, but a lot of them are well-known historical figures whose stories have already been told many times before. Sure, trying your hand at making William a Conqueror or reuniting Charlemagne's empire as one of his grandkids is a fine way to get started. But eventually, you may want to try something a bit weirder.
Here are seven suggestions for the 867 start you might never have noticed that provide some unique and entertaining challenges:
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So, another war fought to grab another county. Hardly seems worth the gold I spend on it, but what else is it good for?
. And to boot any one of my vassals launched a revolt against me. I won both wars but it took Blood & Treasure. Thankfully I have received hundreds in gold for ransoming prisoners, so I'm back flush with cash again.
By the way, BIG changes to my neighbor the King of Aquitaine... he is no longer, at least not in my neck of the woods, as he still rules a good part of southern France. The Yahyid have taken over, with annoyingly almost my same color scheme. The new ruler there is Sultan Fath II ibn Thashim, who is of a Muslim related faith and therefore hostile to me. And he has twice my army and lots of allies. I see trouble ahead!


By the way, BIG changes to my neighbor the King of Aquitaine... he is no longer, at least not in my neck of the woods, as he still rules a good part of southern France. The Yahyid have taken over, with annoyingly almost my same color scheme. The new ruler there is Sultan Fath II ibn Thashim, who is of a Muslim related faith and therefore hostile to me. And he has twice my army and lots of allies. I see trouble ahead!
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A better look at the Yahyid lands. Most of Spain, most of the island of Ireland, all of Wales plus Devon. Also a tiny bit of Sweden and the Netherlands.

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I found a solution to my potentially dangerous neighbor... I converted my Kingdoms to Muwalladism. The change was not universally accepted by all my people, but all the big vassals converted and the little ones are too little to worry about. Now my neighbor can't call Holy War against me, and likes me better to boot!
Muwalladism
Organized Muslim Faith
Far from the center Of the Arabic world. Iberian Muslims adapted to the realities of ruling over a region with large Christian and Jewish populations that had strange, foreign traditions.
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The Dauphinate is going along nicely in 919. The current ruler is a compassionate genius with a skill for intrigue. Which means he's good at it but it causes so much stress that he really can't pull off any schemes without risking his mental health. The partition when his father died left him as the Dauphin (Duke) and the Count of Lyon but no other holdings. Which means I get a nice income but without a lot of personal holdings I'm not getting very many troops.
That wouldn't be a huge deal since I'm still a duke - I should be able to pick off a few counts? Except that this guy was initially a second son and so he was married for stats not for prestige and barely has a positive value. Tons of piety but the Muslim rulers keep helping each other out if I try a holy war. I didn't want to simply build tall but maybe he will.
That wouldn't be a huge deal since I'm still a duke - I should be able to pick off a few counts? Except that this guy was initially a second son and so he was married for stats not for prestige and barely has a positive value. Tons of piety but the Muslim rulers keep helping each other out if I try a holy war. I didn't want to simply build tall but maybe he will.
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I've stopped with my current game, the Irish dynasty with less than a hundred years to go. I've rather burned out on the game, although I've put in just over 100 hours in three weeks which is a heck of a lot for me. I'm into a couple of other games but at some point I'll start up another game with something different as far as starting date and location.
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Re: Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
Well, apparently someone was waiting till I finished my first playthrough to drop a patch, which happens tomorrow: CK3 Dev Diary #42 - 1.1 Patch Notes
Tomorrow is the day when patch 1.1 will drop, and we’re very excited to share it with you! We've made a variety of UI improvements, fixed a whole bunch of bugs, and addressed many common issues players have run into. Using the standard Paradox unit of measurement, the changelog comes in at 5.3 @Groogy in length. Without further ado, here’s the changelog in all its glory!
WARNING: It is really long, so only open the Spoiler Block if you want to see the entire changelog:
(No really, it is MASSIVE.)
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The 1.1.0 update really is massive! The patchnotes don't even fit in one OO post, per the following message:
So here are the rest of the patchnotes for 1.1.0Your message contains 97927 characters.
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Regarding today's patch announcement, an article from Rock, Paper, Shotgun: Crusader Kings 3's patch 1.1 culls excessive bastardisation and other AI quirks
Medieval conquer ’em up Crusader Kings 3 will be pushing out a huge patch to fix all sorts of bugs and AI oddities. Really though, it almost feels like some of these bugs deserve to stay. They’re hard-working bugs, folks. The strategy simulation is adding fixes for overzealous spymasters, children with poor role models, and Popes with a taste for the flesh of the faithful.
The 1.1 patch notes are pretty dang lengthy, addressing all sorts of odd edge cases that may have thrown off your crusading kingdoms.
The patch actually addresses a couple issues that I found particularly humorous in early CK3 player stories like spymasters plotting to murder themselves. According to the patch notes, “spymasters will no longer try to dig up dirt on themselves”. I sure hope that includes attempted self-murders.
Another player was having a lot of trouble maintaining their family line while their wives and daughters were constantly being seduced. The developers confirm that they’ve taken a couple measures to address that problem. More restrictions have been added to the check for characters willing to cheat on their spouses. They’ve also revoked the AI’s permission to kick off a “Confused Heritage” event as they say “the AI was going a bit wild with it and turning everyone into bastards unnecessarily.”
There’s a whole section full of AI changes that seem largely focused on making it a bit more savvy with war and other combat encounters. Apparently it was often confused by naval warfare tactics.
I imagine that nearly all of these fixes solve problems that would become genuinely frustrating when encountered too often, but several are quite amusing to scroll through as line items. Here are some other issues that Paradox say will be fixed in patch 1.1:
Crusader Kings 3 patch 1.1 will be released on Tuesday, September 29th.
- Reclusive characters will no longer host feasts
- Naughty children go straight to jail with no education
- Children are no longer encouraged to pick up more spouses
- Children can no longer be educated by hardened criminals
- Infertile spouses will now no longer wish each other “a long life and many children”
- The Pope can no longer publicly accept cannibalism
- Vassals of vassals are now able to declare war on vassals of their liege’s liege
- If you promise a vassal to educate their child they will now be miffed if you try to return the child
- Gave the AI some self-confidence lessons. Just because its liege is a complete coward, that doesn’t mean it should avoid making or joining factions. It should only do so if they themselves are cowed
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My dynasty in the northeast has bounced back nicely, thanks to a couple of long generations with minimal rebellions. The current khagan, now in his mid-60s, is trying to hold on long enough for his people to discover the technology that will allow a non-partition succession law. Just a couple more years!
Meanwhile, the Byzantine Empire (purple) is doing great,the Jahan empire (green) has a strong hold on the middle of the map, and out in western Europe someone named "Rodrigo" (blue) seems to be the dominant power.
The Papacy is nowhere to be found.
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Re: Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
I've thinking of starting another playthrough after the 1.1.0 update, but first I moved my 2500+ screenshots
to another drive to save space. Now I have to go through the Screenshot Uploader to delete all the empty screenshot slots. Turns out this is a slow process 


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Re: Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
I'll work on deleting more of those screenshot entries later on, for now I'm starting a new game.

I'm starting with the default Game Rules, since I'm not really feeling smart enough to start tinkering with them yet. I spent 100 hours on my last playthrough (and didn't get to 1453!) so who knows how long this one will be?Duke of Novgorod (Tribal)
Rurikid
Culture: Norse
Faith: Åsatrü
Difficulty: Easy
Few have risen from nothingness to greatness like the brave Rurik! Together with his brothers he brought order to the Eastern wilderness, and since their deaths, he is the lone ruler of a great Chiefdom. Yet, this is only the beginning. One day, Rurik's descendants will found the Tsardom of Russia. Or will they? The destiny of this great dynasty rests in your hands.
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Re: Crusader Kings III - The Sequel You Have Been Waiting For
This is me at the start. Weird that it isn't the image or the name from the selection screen. Oh well, got to start somewhere. Nice that I'm already known as 'Troublemaker', keeps folks on their toes.

My wife really likes that I'm Brave:


My wife really likes that I'm Brave:

My father said that anything is interesting if you bother to read about it - Michael C. Harrold