LGBT issues thread (was Supreme Court to hear same-sex marriage cases)

[Isgrimnur]

#RepealThe10th

[baelthazar]

We are going to see more of this. I know Indiana is also considering it:

Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine signed HB 8 (“The Parents’ Bill of Rights”) into law on Wednesday. He did so behind closed doors, not televised as he did for another bill he signed into law the same day.

HB 8 will force teachers and school staff to out LGBTQ+ youth to their parents and will limit the mention of LGBTQ+ identity in school curricula.

The bill requires that teachers and school staff – including school social workers, counselors and psychologists – notify a student’s parent of “any change in the student’s services, including counseling services, or monitoring related to the student’s mental, emotional or physical health or well-being.”

The legislation specifically calls out trans identity as necessitating parental notification, and previous testimony has affirmed that disclosures of sexual orientation would also trigger parental contact.

The bill further bans any mention of “sexuality content” in grades K-3 and mandates that such content be “age-appropriate” for all other grades. Sexuality content is defined in the bill as “written instruction, presentation, image or description of sexual concepts or gender ideology.” Nowhere in the bill is “gender ideology” defined.

“I think the basis for it for me, if you’re a parent, you want to be informed what’s going on in your child’s life,” DeWine told reporters in a press conference on Wednesday. “Parents are the best teachers.”

“It’s about creating the right kind of culture educationally in Ohio,” added Lt. Gov. Jon Husted added.

His answer about parents does not sync with actual reality. There are NUMEROUS cases where parents were the LEAST SAFE people to entrust their kids health to (particularly in terms of sexuality).

DeWine was specifically asked by reporters about the part of HB 8 that would result in LGBTQ+ students being outed.

“We love these students as we love anybody else. They’re not only welcome in Ohio, but they’re welcome in our schools. We want to protect them as we protect every other student. But I do believe parents are the most likely people to help that child,” DeWine said.

The bill passed by the Ohio legislature during the last hour of their legislative session on December 19 also included language mandating that all schools find a time during the school day when students are able to leave school for religious instruction.

DeWine had previously indicated he would sign the bill into law, specifically endorsing the language on release time for religious instruction.

I also suspect that there needs to be documentation of this communication to parents. So not only are you outing these kids to their parents, you are outing them to the State as well. We are one step away from the State requiring, I don't know, special symbols the kids wear to ensure they are properly identified.

[Punisher]

Of parents are the best teachers then why don't they push for home schooling?

[Blackhawk]

We are going to see more of this. I know Indiana is also considering it:

That's us. We're not trailblazers - we wait for other states to do despicable first, let them take the media brunt, then quietly add our names to the bottom of the list after it's died down.

[Blackhawk]

“It’s about creating the right kind of culture educationally in Ohio,” added Lt. Gov. Jon Husted added.

That's what we get for embedding the right for government to create culture in the Constitution.

[Unagi]

Talking to myself here...

The funny tricky thing about culture (IMO) is that if it's being forced, it's not culture. Culture is what is, not what you (or anyone) wants it to be.

[hepcat]

This will result in a lot of kids being thrown out into the streets. Fuck Ohio. And fuck the people who support this shit. They're awful goddamn human beings. Sorry, but this one makes my blood boil. Growing up with a gay brother in Ohio, I (well, he) was fortunate to have parents that didn't care. But he had a LOT of friends who's parents did...and they often times just kicked them out. They would then end up in situations that no child should ever be placed in.

So yeah. Fuck you people who support this. I honestly wish nothing but harm to you.

[Zarathud]

The people who want schools to report on their children are the same people hostile to paying for schools and who disregard school shootings.

What happened to schools being just a place to learn skills and knowledge? If you’re a parent who needs a teacher to tell you about your child’s gender identity, you’ve failed in paying attention.