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Joking post, meet Max. He's here to smother you with this pillow.

hepcat wrote:That reply LITERALLY shows you don't know what literally means.

That reply shows that you aren't watching the debate.

PLW wrote:

hepcat wrote:That reply LITERALLY shows you don't know what literally means.

Well... it's close. Trump literally claimed to have a big dick, and he keeps referring to Rubio as "Little Marco."

Sadly, we've reached the point where I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Skinypupy wrote:

PLW wrote:

hepcat wrote:That reply LITERALLY shows you don't know what literally means.

Well... it's close. Trump literally claimed to have a big dick, and he keeps referring to Rubio as "Little Marco."

Sadly, we've reached the point where I can't tell if you're joking or not.

I am not.

hepcat wrote:Joking post, meet Max. He's here to smother you with this pillow.

Touché! That'll teach me to decide that a smiley is unnecessary when I make a bad joke.

Little Marco and Lyin' Ted -- good luck shaking those.

I'm amazed at the effort Fox news is putting into dismantling Trump. Graphics? Research? Interview clips from 2015? They're trying as hard as Cruz and Rubio.

EDIT: He just name checked Howard Stern. If he manages to get a Bababooey in there, I'm declaring him Emperor for life.

Man, what a garbage fire this 'debate' is.

Fox is going hard after Trump tonight. Weren't they crying over Candy Crowley fact-checking Romney during a debate?

Not that I'm complaining. I wish they did this more often and to other people not named Trump.

It's not just Fox. With Romney's comment's earlier and seeing Cruz and Rubio trying to take shots at him -- clearly a memo was circulated today. And he's going to spin it to show how he's standing up against them all. Dude is teflon.

I could still go Cruz.

Less than 48 hrs to pick............

Pretty sure Hillary's Tweetbot wins the night...

Smoove_B wrote:I get what you're saying, but I can't cast a vote for anyone that has publicly espoused the nonsense that Romney has; I can't support it. Or Creepy Cruz. Or Climate-change denier Rubio. Additionally, I can't vote for Clinton or Trump either, so it's a mess on all levels.

You got that.

Smoove_B wrote:I'm amazed at the effort Fox news is putting into dismantling Trump. Graphics? Research? Interview clips from 2015? They're trying as hard as Cruz and Rubio.

Why are you amazed? The owner of FOX is a card carrying member of the Republican "establishment". And after Trump's treatment of Kelly, their biggest star, they are definitely no fan of his. Both FOX and the WSJ are vociferous Trump opponents.

Smoove_B wrote:I get what you're saying, but I can't cast a vote for anyone that has publicly espoused the nonsense that Romney has; I can't support it. Or Creepy Cruz. Or Climate-change denier Rubio. Additionally, I can't vote for Clinton or Drumpf either, so it's a mess on all levels.

There come a time when you have to vote based on the character of the man/woman more than the issues - because that's all you can count on. Positions on issues "evolve" with changing circumstances. Who and what you are doesn't. I think Romney learned a lesson in 2012. I cannot vote for Hillary (unless it's to thwart Trump or Cruz). I don't know what I'd do with Rubio vs. Clinton. But Romney vs. Clinton, after Romney leads the fight to stop Trump? That's not even a moment's hesitation. I know with certainty that I'll survive a Romney Administration, and the tide has turned on most of the social issues I care about anyway. Those positions are too popular nationally for Romney's personal beliefs to have any impact.

Either way, I know that if nothing else, Romney is not a fucking toddler.

What I know is he has about as much chance to win as Jeb Bush. Even that would be dependent on someone throwing as much money away on him as they threw away on Bush.

CNN wrote:In perhaps the most surreal moment yet in a dramatic presidential race, Drumpf opened the Fox News debate by seemingly boasting about the size of his genitals.

I know you've already been talking about it, but are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? In a televised debate to be the leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world - and you're boasting about the size of your dick? WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. GOING. ON.

hepcat wrote:Joking post, meet Max. He's here to smother you with this pillow.

Wait, that's my job.

RunningMn9 wrote:

CNN wrote:In perhaps the most surreal moment yet in a dramatic presidential race, Drumpf opened the Fox News debate by seemingly boasting about the size of his genitals.

I know you've already been talking about it, but are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? In a televised debate to be the leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world - and you're boasting about the size of your dick? WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. GOING. ON.

Don't you just want to punch every single person who supports him in the face? I know I said I wasn't angry or feeling superior to his supporters, but Jesus Christ...The guy is a monstrosity.

Isn't this where Rip comes in and chortles, lecturing us on how this is all just to shake up the establishment, a much needed turn away from traditional Republicans?

Awful stuff.

Drumpf is making me dream of the good old days of Bush Jr. Well done.

RunningMn9 wrote:

CNN wrote:In perhaps the most surreal moment yet in a dramatic presidential race, Drumpf opened the Fox News debate by seemingly boasting about the size of his genitals.

I know you've already been talking about it, but are you FUCKING KIDDING ME? In a televised debate to be the leader of the most powerful country in the history of the world - and you're boasting about the size of your dick? WHAT. THE. FUCK. IS. GOING. ON.

This about states my feelings on the matter:

Within the first five minutes of the debate, Trump defended the size of his hands, and by the transitive property of winking vulgarity, the size of his … member. These remarks came, I will remind readers, during a debate where four men are debating their merits for the highest office of the United States of America, a country founded 240 years ago by men and women who fought and died to defend the idea that the common man should be able to determine their own destiny and their own leaders. So, yeah, this debate is the logical extension of that struggle.

http://53eig.ht/1QoLziZ

RunningMn9 wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:Romney is against same-sex marriages and wanted to pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. No way he's gaining any traction by claiming Trump is a terrible person and terrible for America.

Sometimes you have to support the adult in the room even if you don't agree with them on anything. I'm sure as hell not voting for Hillary unless forced to by a Trump or Cruz nomination.

And Drumpf makes Romney look like a saviour of the American people. Smoove says Romney can't get traction but the Drumpf ALREADY HAS traction with more heinous positions than Romney's on gay marriage. It's like Smoove is still judging Romney by the old rules while Drumpf can ignore them and be considered the better candidate. It's...insane.

GreenGoo wrote:

RunningMn9 wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:Romney is against same-sex marriages and wanted to pass an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to define marriage as one man and one woman. No way he's gaining any traction by claiming Trump is a terrible person and terrible for America.

Sometimes you have to support the adult in the room even if you don't agree with them on anything. I'm sure as hell not voting for Hillary unless forced to by a Trump or Cruz nomination.

And Drumpf makes Romney look like a saviour of the American people. Smoove says Romney can't get traction but the Drumpf ALREADY HAS traction with more heinous positions than Romney's on gay marriage. It's like Smoove is still judging Romney by the old rules while Drumpf can ignore them and be considered the better candidate. It's...insane.

What does Romney have that the others who have tried to beat him don't?

Romney isn't changing anyone's mind and he certainly wouldn't fair any better against Trump/Cruz than Rubio/Bush have done. Heck you could put Romney in a Bush suit and no one would even notice.

RunningMn9 wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:I get what you're saying, but I can't cast a vote for anyone that has publicly espoused the nonsense that Romney has; I can't support it. Or Creepy Cruz. Or Climate-change denier Rubio. Additionally, I can't vote for Clinton or Drumpf either, so it's a mess on all levels.

There come a time when you have to vote based on the character of the man/woman more than the issues - because that's all you can count on. Positions on issues "evolve" with changing circumstances. Who and what you are doesn't. I think Romney learned a lesson in 2012. I cannot vote for Hillary (unless it's to thwart Trump or Cruz). I don't know what I'd do with Rubio vs. Clinton. But Romney vs. Clinton, after Romney leads the fight to stop Trump? That's not even a moment's hesitation. I know with certainty that I'll survive a Romney Administration, and the tide has turned on most of the social issues I care about anyway. Those positions are too popular nationally for Romney's personal beliefs to have any impact.

Either way, I know that if nothing else, Romney is not a fucking toddler.

Romney was a halfway decent moderate governor before he got all starry-eyed about being president. He gave us Romneycare and worked with our D establishment. He only fell apart when he tried to go "severe conservative" for the R primary. Which one was the real Romney? Who knows?

IDK if he's any less heinous than Clinton but I'd give him a fresh hearing. He might be able to drag the R Party a step or two back to center now that their conventional wisdom is in shreds.

You have too much faith in the GOP. They're not going to anoint a moderate like Romney as the savior.

Rubio just isn't going to tarnish the Republican brand as racist, so he's the establishment choice. Cruz would be acceptable to the Tea Party, but he's an asshole no one wants to work with. That leaves plenty if room for Trump's salesmanship and dangerous dog whistle message. Trump would sell his "Winning" against the "Loser" Romney, just as he's tagged Cruz as "Liar," Rubio as "Weak" and Bush as "Low Energy." And you know he's waiting to tag Hillary as "Bitch" and "Dishonest."

Too bad for Trump that Meghan Kelly showed how to nail him.

RunningMn9 wrote:There come a time when you have to vote based on the character of the man/woman more than the issues - because that's all you can count on.

Right - and I think Romney comes off like a rich a-hole that is completely out of touch. It's like someone at the party level thought that Romney has money...Trump has money...and people like Trump...why aren't we rebranding Romney to attack Trump? It's because he doesn't have the personality that Trump innately possesses. Can he Govern? Probably. But I don't trust him. I don't trust Trump either but his issues are related to ignorance. For Cruz or Romney I don't trust their character in the same way I no longer trust that Chris Christie is capable of being a governor.

Positions on issues "evolve" with changing circumstances.

Clearly you didn't watch the debate last night - Trump evolved at least twice and the crowd cheered. It was insanity.

I know with certainty that I'll survive a Romney Administration, and the tide has turned on most of the social issues I care about anyway. Those positions are too popular nationally for Romney's personal beliefs to have any impact.

Oh, I don't think they'll change either. But to have the head of a country deny climate change (Little Marco) or believe our Constitution needs to be amended to address marriage (Romney) and focus any amount of mental space on issues that have collectively been decided by activist judges or "scientists" is a suggestion to me that we'd be in for a ride. I totally understand what you're saying but I'm guessing (as was pointed out) Romney just isn't crazy enough. Kasich came off last night as a mostly reasonable guy, intelligent, calm and collected. Except he's also upside down on social issues and clearly not the firebrand that the GOP wants. And that's what is hilarious about all this to me. I don't think that the GOP on the whole necessarily disagrees with Trump or the idea of a Trump Presidency - hell, even Little Marco and Lyin' Ted agreed to pledge support if he was the nominee during the debate. It's the idea that Trump isn't a party insider - he's been able to get this far completely on his own and hijack the process. He's absolutely the modern incarnation of Frankenstein's monster and he's currently choking the life out of the GOP mad scientist that brought him to life. I cannot help but think academics and historians are going to be able to make careers out of analyzing what happened in the decades to come. And that's probably what is most depressing of all - that he's now going to officially be part of American political history - and not just a footnote - but as the guy that opened a Presidential debate with commentary on his junk.

EDIT: Also, how can you not like the guy that name checked Howard Stern during the debate? It was surreal.

RunningMn9 wrote:
Either way, I know that if nothing else, Romney is not a fucking toddler.

Sadly, this has become almost the entirety of the decision making process for most (reasonable) folks.

I love how Drumpf claims he's never heard anyone "hit" his hands for their small size before. Christ dude, you still send Graydon Carter photos of your hands after he called you a "short fingered vulgarian" decades ago.

You could hold a picture of Drumpf shaking hands with bin Laden up to his face, play a video recording of the event, then have his children come on stage and attest to the evidence's veracity...and he'd STILL look you in the face and tell you it didn't happen. I am utterly flummoxed as to how such blatant lies (that aren't even political in nature half the time, but simple out and out lies he's easily called on with even the most superficial of research) are overlooked (or more importantly, cheered on) by his obviously troubled or intellectually bereft supporters.

p.s. I really don't enjoy branding an entire group of people with that kind of insult, but I honestly have found myself incapable of giving them the benefit of the doubt. They are completely alien to me.

If only Gore had won that recount.....

J.D. wrote:If only Gore had won that recount.....

Smoove_B wrote:Right - and I think Romney comes off like a rich a-hole that is completely out of touch.

Then don't vote for him. I think that you're wrong to question his character, but that's your call. Maybe that word means something different to you than it does to me. Romney is wrong about some things. But of questionable character? I don't see it.

Hillary is of questionable character (because she has none). Trump is of questionable character (because he has none). There is a *stark* difference between what is fundamentally wrong with Hillary and Trump as human beings, and Mitt Romney.

RunningMn9 wrote:Hillary is of questionable character (because she has none). Trump is of questionable character (because he has none). There is a *stark* difference between what is fundamentally wrong with Hillary and Trump as human beings, and Mitt Romney.

I agree with this 100% - it's a matter of degree though. Hillary and Trump (I think) are cut from the same cloth, yes. Mitt Romney isn't in the same ballpark but when you're telling me repeatedly that you like trees because they are the right height, I'm going to wonder exactly what you're trying to hide with your imitation of human interaction.

Smoove_B wrote:when you're telling me repeatedly that you like trees because they are the right height, I'm going to wonder exactly what you're trying to hide with your imitation of human interaction.

Robots are people too, my friend.

I might need to commission someone to draw a cartoon still of Robo-Romney fighting FrankenTrump. As an added bonus, they can add a tiny Rubio in the background playing the part of Scrappy-Doo.

Kraken wrote: IDK if he's any less heinous than Clinton but I'd give him a fresh hearing. He might be able to drag the R Party a step or two back to center now that their conventional wisdom is in shreds.

I read an article this morning (on CNN international? Is that a thing?) the gist of which was that Trump is natural outcome of John Boehner failing to use the people's mandate of a Rep majority senate and congress to implement conservative policies. The article basically claimed that Boehner was TOO friendly with the Dems and should have been more of an obstructionist to the Obama administration.

Drumpf is a direct result of the Reps not being obstructionist enough, and that's John Boehner's fault.

I nearly choked.

My point being, they don't seem to be in any rush to learn any lesson here other than they are not conservative enough and need to be more conservative next time.

Smoove_B wrote:I might need to commission someone to draw a cartoon still of Robo-Romney fighting FrankenTrump. As an added bonus, they can add a tiny Rubio in the background playing the part of Scrappy-Doo.

Lest we forget...

Skipping CPAC why take questions from Conservatives

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... ton-220255

You have to remove from the ? to the end for it to work.

tru1cy wrote:

Just a scheduling conflict. Donald has a finger stretching appointment scheduled during that time.

tru1cy wrote:Skipping CPAC why take questions from Conservatives

When you've hijacked a train, you don't take time for a Q&A with the passengers.

I expect Dems will feature prominently how Republicans went on record stating what an absolute disaster Trump would be for the country and yet in the same breath pledged support to the fat-fingered f#$% if he is the nominee.

These are my absolute favorite quotes:

TPM’s Josh Marshall noted overnight, “You may have noticed that during the debate audience members in the line of sight behind the moderators were giving thumbs ups, making faces or just aping for the cameras like you’d expect to see at a football game or a wrestling match. We’ve never seen anything like that. The pro-wrestling mania of the Trump rallies is seeping into debates, like a virus spreading through a host body. And I tend to doubt that those people were all Trump supporters. It doesn’t matter. Creeping Trumpism is taking over his opponents from within.”

And the best:

For the Republican Party as an institution, that’s a tragedy without modern parallel. Jamie Johnson, a former aide to Rick Perry’s defunct presidential campaign, said last night, “My party is committing suicide on national television.”

That’s generally not the kind of sentiment one wants to read about their party in the middle of a presidential election.