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Enough wrote:I expect Dems will feature prominently how Republicans went on record stating what an absolute disaster Trump would be for the country and yet in the same breath pledged support to the fat-fingered f#$% if he is the nominee.

Exactly! They hammered him for 2 hours trying to convince everyone how terrible he is but in closing pledge to support his candidacy if he's selected. Yeah, he must be really terrible then.

Jindal was spouting today that Trump is Obama's fault. Interesting theory. It is ironic that the party of personal responsibility can't even realize that it got too addicted to hate and it is consuming them. Can someone please organize an intervention or something?

Rip wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... ton-220255

Webb is an opportunist screaming here for relevancy. Dude changed his party status to Democratic in 2006 and then punted in 2010 still miffed that Obama didn't get him a role at POTUS. I suspect he is just continuing to follow that SOP. Webb is a big part of why Obama didn't get more done when Dems controlled both House and Senate. One of the only positive things Webb managed to do by getting elected was to destroy the career of Macaca-George Allen.

And I thought Webb was anti-war crime, wtf? Also as a Vietnam vet I am sort of shocked he would dig nam-avoiding Trump in any fashion. Maybe since Obama didn't pick him up for Veep he's hoping Trump will, lol?

Rip wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... ton-220255

More of the same? So, low gas prices, rebounding economy, and a president who sounds presidential? Sign me up.

Smoove_B wrote:Right - and I think Romney comes off like a rich a-hole that is completely out of touch.

Whatever you think of his politics, I think this article about Romney's time as President and Bishop of his local LDS stake shows a more human side, and definitely not a man out of touch:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

He's certainly more grounded in reality than Donald Trump.

Grifman wrote:He's certainly more grounded in reality than Donald Trump.

Was he doing sport then too? Or enjoying Lemon. Wet. Good. at the time? Whatever his interpersonal skills might be, he comes off very strange in public and during off-the-cuff interviews. It's the same with Rubio - he's not fast on his feet. He might very well be more grounded in reality, but his public persona isn't nearly as enticing.

EDIT: I also want to be 100% clear - in no way should Donald Trump be President. I'm just trying to stare into the abyss for a short time and escape before I become the abyss (to poorly paraphrase a classic).

In case it's been missed, McCain's joined in the chorus:

The GOP's 2008 nominee, Arizona Sen. McCain, joined in, raising "many concerns about Mr. Trump's uninformed and indeed dangerous statements on national security issues." That echoes the worries of dozens of leading conservative defense and foreign policy officials.

link

It's funny that they choose to focus on national security so as not to alienate the bigot vote.

raydude wrote:

Rip wrote:http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/j ... ton-220255

More of the same? So, low gas prices, rebounding economy, and a president who sounds presidential? Sign me up.

Yup, keeping the status quo would be fine by me.

I will say, if it does become a literal dick-measuring contest, than Trump will win over Hillary. After all, he's one big prick.

Smoove_B wrote:Was he doing sport then too? Or enjoying Lemon. Wet. Good. at the time?

Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say?

Grifman wrote:Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say?

Looks like his campaign folks have scrubbed the internet, but you can still see his thoughts on a guy that plays sport and some guy talking about his thoughts on a glass of lemonade he was handed at a parade. It's just...awkward.

Grifman wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:Was he doing sport then too? Or enjoying Lemon. Wet. Good. at the time?

Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say?

I don't know about "doing sport" (is it like playing sportsball, or just a dig at his propensity to say "sport" instead of "sports"?), but "Lemon. Wet. Good." refers to an incident during the 2012 campaign.

At one point, stopping to guzzle a glass of lemonade, Romney was asked how it tasted, to which he replied, "Lemon. Wet. Good."

Edit: Isgrimnured by Smoove...

Defiant wrote:In case it's been missed, McCain's joined in the chorus:

The GOP's 2008 nominee, Arizona Sen. McCain, joined in, raising "many concerns about Mr. Trump's uninformed and indeed dangerous statements on national security issues." That echoes the worries of dozens of leading conservative defense and foreign policy officials.

link

I'm sorry. I like John McCain, or, at least I used to before the whole Palin thing. But it seems a little ridiculous to me that the GOP thinks it can stop the Trump onslaught by having all their prior LOSING presidential nominees come out and attack him. What are they thinking? I mean, aren't we all in agreement that Trump is, in the minds of his supporters, the solution to all the prior GOP presidential failure?

EDIT: Also, for the record, I thought Romney's Trump take-down speech was the best thing Romney ever did. He certainly wasn't that genuine or persuasive at any point when he was actually running for office.

Kurth wrote: EDIT: Also, for the record, I thought Romney's Trump take-down speech was the best thing Romney ever did. He certainly wasn't that genuine or persuasive at any point when he was actually running for office.

Conservatives have been asking, "Why couldn't Romney have been that powerful against Obama in 2012?"

The answer, of course, is the difference between Obama and Trump.

Holman wrote:

Kurth wrote: EDIT: Also, for the record, I thought Romney's Trump take-down speech was the best thing Romney ever did. He certainly wasn't that genuine or persuasive at any point when he was actually running for office.

Conservatives have been asking, "Why couldn't Romney have been that powerful against Obama in 2012?"

The answer, of course, is the difference between Obama and Trump.

Or the lack of difference between Romney and Obama........

Because they were both born in Kenya?

Max Peck wrote: "Lemon. Wet. Good." refers to an incident during the 2012 campaign.

At one point, stopping to guzzle a glass of lemonade, Romney was asked how it tasted, to which he replied, "Lemon. Wet. Good."

He later followed it up by remarking "Fire. Bad."

GreenGoo wrote:Because they were both born in Kenya?

Romney Vs Obama - Same Issues, Same Answers!

Rip wrote:

GreenGoo wrote:Because they were both born in Kenya?

Romney Vs Obama - Same Issues, Same Answers!

Dumb.

Yeah... I wish the current republican candidates sounded a bit more rational. Maybe that was the point of that video?

Kurth wrote:

Defiant wrote:In case it's been missed, McCain's joined in the chorus:

The GOP's 2008 nominee, Arizona Sen. McCain, joined in, raising "many concerns about Mr. Trump's uninformed and indeed dangerous statements on national security issues." That echoes the worries of dozens of leading conservative defense and foreign policy officials.

link

I'm sorry. I like John McCain, or, at least I used to before the whole Palin thing. But it seems a little ridiculous to me that the GOP thinks it can stop the Trump onslaught by having all their prior LOSING presidential nominees come out and attack him. What are they thinking? I mean, aren't we all in agreement that Trump is, in the minds of his supporters, the solution to all the prior GOP presidential failure?

EDIT: Also, for the record, I thought Romney's Trump take-down speech was the best thing Romney ever did. He certainly wasn't that genuine or persuasive at any point when he was actually running for office.

Sometimes, yes, even for politicians, it's about doing the right thing. Would you have preferred that they endorsed him as that craven Christie did?

If Trump doesn't win, I would say Christie's political career is over. At least on any significant stage. He may still make Alderman somewhere.

Smoove_B wrote:

Grifman wrote:Sorry, I have no idea what you are trying to say?

Looks like his campaign folks have scrubbed the internet, but you can still see his thoughts on a guy that plays sport.

Maybe he listened to The Biggest Prize in Sport.

hepcat wrote:If Trump doesn't win, I would say Christie's political career is over. At least on any significant stage. He may still make Alderaan somewhere.

Our position is correct, but no career.

What do you mean? Where is it?

That's what I'm trying to tell you, kid. It ain't there. It's been totally blown away.

Isgrimnur wrote:

hepcat wrote:If Trump doesn't win, I would say Christie's political career is over. At least on any significant stage. He may still make Alderaan somewhere.

Our position is correct, but no career.

What do you mean? Where is it?

That's what I'm trying to tell you, kid. It ain't there. It's been totally blown away.

Ok, everyone can relax. I'm now convinced this is an Andy Kaufman level trick being pulled on everyone. This was taken today at an Orlando rally:

Donald Trump tells the audience to raise their right hands and promise to vote for him

Him just fucking with everybody makes more sense than him not fucking with anybody.

hepcat wrote:If Trump doesn't win

Trump voters will blame the GOP, and every lemonade drinking empty suit they run from now on will never get a vote from current Trump supporters. Which I'm sure will make almost everyone here happy, as if any of those empty suits were a danger to you in the first place.

Unless the GOP runs a candidate that had a TV show. TV is God to these people. If the GOP ran a Kardashian, they'd step over each other's crushed bodies to get to the voting booth.

In other words, the GOP just needs to learn to embrace stupidity and bring the tea party back into the fold.

hepcat wrote:If the GOP ran a Kardashian

DON'T EVEN THINK IT

Well...how about a Cardassian?

He has got my vote.

And those hands? Now THOSE are man sized hands

hepcat wrote:Well...how about a Cardassian?

Why not both? Makes about as much sense as all this does.

Well, Cardassian's arrive at a verdict and schedule the execution before the trial. I take it that would appeal to some of Donald "rapists and murderers" Trump's supporters.

Garkek in 2016?! I can live with that.

hepcat wrote:Unless the GOP runs a candidate that had a TV show. TV is God to these people. If the GOP ran a Kardashian, they'd step over each other's crushed bodies to get to the voting booth.

In other words, the GOP just needs to learn to embrace stupidity and bring the tea party back into the fold.

Have one of those Duck Dynasty folks as a running mate. Unstoppable!