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Smoove_B wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:10 pm"They can't touch you"

Unreal.

malchior wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 3:57 pm

Smoove_B wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 2:10 pm"They can't touch you"

Unreal.

It seems like there is something to enforce. They should suspend them. Choices should have consequences.

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:47 pm

Kasey Chang wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:37 pm In some Oregon counties, they are requested refrigerated trucks because their morgue is full due to COVID.

The hospital here is small, yet our county is ranked second in the state for positive cases (900+ per 100k.) They've had to expand the COVID unit so much that it is more than half of all rooms.

Our morgue holds two.

YellowKing wrote:It's a shame the parents are the ones acting like children in that scenario. I'm so sick of the goddamn mask whining. Grow the fuck up.

GOP: Hey, can I spit in your kid's sippy cup?
Me: No.
GOP: It won't kill 'em
Me: Understood. Still no.
GOP: I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPIT IN YOUR KID'S CUP
Me: The fuck is wrong with you?

Pyperkub wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 7:53 pm GOP: Hey, can I spit in your kid's sippy cup?
Me: No.
GOP: It won't kill 'em
Me: Understood. Still no.
GOP: I HAVE A RIGHT TO SPIT IN YOUR KID'S CUP
Me: The fuck is wrong with you?
Nate Silver: Don't understand why people are freaking out about non-lethal spit in children's cups.

Researchers at three universities in Nigeria studied the effects of Ivermectin, which is used to treat river blindness and other medical conditions in humans, on men’s sperm counts. According to their study, 85 percent of men who take Ivermectin become sterilized.
...
The study conducted by researchers in Nigeria screened 385 patients with river blindness to investigate the effects of Ivermectin on sperm function.

The researchers found that 85 percent of all male patients treated in a particular center with ivermectin in the recent past who went to the laboratory for routine tests were discovered to have developed various forms, grades and degrees of sperm dysfunction.

Kasey Chang wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:19 pm Snopes rated that 2011 study as "unproven"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/iverm ... ty-in-men/

Biden Covid-19 speech details, so far, per ppl familar:
– Ordering all federal workers to get vaccinated, with no opt-out alternative
– Urging schools to set up regular testing using previously allocated $10B
– Calling for international summit this month on global Covid response

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:36 am Some info about what Biden is allegedly going to discuss today:

https://twitter.com/adamcancryn/status/ ... 0767590407

Biden Covid-19 speech details, so far, per ppl familar:
– Ordering all federal workers to get vaccinated, with no opt-out alternative
– Urging schools to set up regular testing using previously allocated $10B
– Calling for international summit this month on global Covid response

The "urging" of schools to test is...interesting. If you think people are nuts over masks, wait until you tell them the school is making arrangements to test kids.

But what's hilarious to me is that we know this works. It's not perfect, but it makes a difference - just look at what the bottomless resources of the NBA and NFL were able to accomplish last year and earlier this year. But kids in schools? No, we can't do that.

pr0ner wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:42 am though I do wonder how they will enforce this at agencies with a lot of workers who are at home full time (such as mine).

Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:52 am

pr0ner wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:42 am though I do wonder how they will enforce this at agencies with a lot of workers who are at home full time (such as mine).

If there's ever a chance you need to go to a meeting face-to-face, visit the office to deal with paperwork, accomplish some task that can only be done on-site, or visit a 3rd party location as an agent of your organization, you're going to need to be vaccinated. That's my non-lawyer take but thinking like a company / organization that's looking to minimize risk (legal risk, for themselves).

The Reddit user who goes by Jessabird detailed the events that led to her pull out her cellphone and start filming. She said she was at the store with her 13-year-old daughter when the maskless "Karen" approached them and confronted them for wearing masks, saying how "Nebraskans have turned into sheep."

Jessabird said the woman then proceeded to follow the mother and daughter around the store and when she asked her to maintain social distance, the woman started coughing on them intentionally.

In the video, the woman is seen coughing multiple times in the direction of the videographer. "Excuse me, I'm coming through," the woman is heard saying as she continues to cough at the mother and daughter. The woman then says, "Look at you guys, you're so cute. ... You're such sheep."

When a fellow shopper asks her why she wasn't wearing a mask, the woman replies by saying "Because I don't need to have one on. I'm not sick and neither are you." The woman then claims she has "allergies" when confronted about coughing at the shoppers. Watch the video below:

A maskless woman who was recorded deliberately coughing at a mother and her child at a grocery store in Nebraska has been fired from her job.

A clip of the incident involving the woman, identified as 54-year-old Janene Hoskovec, at a Super Saver in Lincoln went viral after it was posted onto Reddit on September 3.

During the clip, entitled "Anti-Mask Karen Deliberately Coughing on me at South 27th Super Saver," Hoskovec is seen coughing at the woman, who is recording her, before telling others shoppers they are "such sheep" and that she doesn't need to wear a mask because: "I'm not sick and neither are you."

Hoskovec then smiles and claims that it's her allergies that are causing her to cough.

The Los Angeles Board of Education was to vote on Thursday on a COVID-19 vaccination mandate for all children over 12 in the nation's second-largest school district.

The meeting was set for 2 p.m. PDT (5 p.m. ET) with a session for the public to comment to the board, which has previously been sued over its precautions for the novel coronavirus. About 2,000 people a day test positive for the coronavirus in Los Angeles County.

Most board members have already indicated they support the measure, the Los Angeles Times reported, meaning Los Angeles is poised to be the first large school district in the country to mandate vaccines for students 12 and over.

With a COVID surge fueled by the Delta variant, school districts are facing challenges, including sickened teachers, as they create policies around the politically charged topics of vaccines and masking. read more

More than 600,000 students go to schools in the Los Angeles Unified School District, which already has masking, coronavirus-testing and ventilation requirements in its roughly 1,200 schools. The board previously mandated all employees be vaccinated.

Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:07 pm

Researchers at three universities in Nigeria studied the effects of Ivermectin, which is used to treat river blindness and other medical conditions in humans, on men’s sperm counts. According to their study, 85 percent of men who take Ivermectin become sterilized.
...
The study conducted by researchers in Nigeria screened 385 patients with river blindness to investigate the effects of Ivermectin on sperm function.

The researchers found that 85 percent of all male patients treated in a particular center with ivermectin in the recent past who went to the laboratory for routine tests were discovered to have developed various forms, grades and degrees of sperm dysfunction.

NEW: Biden is expected to announce a requirement for health care facilities with Medicare and Medicaid to have to have staff 100% vaccinated. via @HeidiNBC This is HUGE, every hospital is heavily dependent on these funds

LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 5:02 pm When the pile of cigarette butts behind the ER is higher than normal, you know things are bad. When it's lower than normal, you know things are really bad.

Alberta's plan to lift all pandemic restrictions and precautions appears to have been based on a scenario rooted more in wishful optimism and political expediency than obvious scientific evidence, say experts in infectious diseases and pandemic modelling.

But they say the problem was compounded as Premier Jason Kenney and Dr. Deena Hinshaw, the chief medical officer of health, failed to reimpose measures despite the steady rise of COVID-19 infections and hospitalizations through the summer.

"At this point in the pandemic, there is no excuse for this sort of negligence at the government level," said Dr. Ilan Schwartz, an associate professor of infectious diseases at the University of Alberta.

"The bottom line is that people are going to die and it is really tragic — but it is also infuriating, because this was all entirely preventable."

Alberta's health-care system is on the verge of collapse, warns a group of physicians who are pleading with the government to strengthen public health measures to fend off a relentless fourth wave of COVID-19.

Dr. Shazma Mithani, an emergency room physician in Edmonton, said a staffing crisis, overwhelmed intensive care units and mixed messaging from the province has created a “dire” situation.

Her biggest fear, she said, is that doctors will need to triage patients should hospitalizations continue to mount.

“We don't want to have to make these decisions where we're choosing who gets to have (intensive) care or not. And we're getting closer and closer to that every day,” Mithani said in an interview.

Blackhawk wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 4:57 pm That's a net positive. The one downside is it will cause some healthcare workers to quit, and the market for qualified replacements is already bare. Michelle doesn't even work directly with patients, and she's already doing a job that's intended for a three person shift alone because they can't find anyone. It's like soloing a raid. She comes home and tells me about nurses sitting and sobbing from exhaustion, stress, and burnout, while people lay on beds in the halls and wait for hours in the ER waiting room. They're having to call in family practice doctors to try to keep up with the surge in patients. And its only just begun.

I have to imagine that healthcare workers making it through this are going to be dealing with their own PTSD for decades to come. It's going to be tomorrow's pandemic.

Nobody wants to go into the healthcare industry right now, and it's hemorrhaging staff.

But it's still the right move.

They shafted my President," Bland said. He thought the vaccine was delayed intentionally to hurt Trump, a baseless claim. "They wouldn't give it to him because they know damn good and well he'd be reelected, and there'd be nothing nobody could do. So, they had to swindle around and scheme around and keep it from him, and just as soon as the election was over, Bam! There we got it. I'm so bullheaded. You shafted me out of my President. I ain't taking your medicine," he said. "I'll take what they gave him, but I'm not taking yours.

I don't want to ever give anybody an excuse for doing something like not getting vaccinated. But the reasons do harken to someone who has been told that they're a dumb hillbilly all their life by the rest of the country," Cochran said. "I don't know that we are oppressed or disenfranchised. And I don't know if we deserve to even feel that way here. But we are a flyover state. ... We are a people who consider ourselves lost to the rest of the world.

But did he get the vaccine? Keathley sat with his arms crossed and made a face.

Our CNN crew was not above pleading. "Please, Brian, did you get the vaccine?"

"Whether or not I got the vaccine should not dissuade someone else from getting it. If they feel they need it, then they need to get it."

People feel like they have to get the vaccine in secret, we told Keathley. He's a big, tough guy, works on the railroad, has big mouth -- and everyone knows it. Maybe it would mean something, even to one person, coming from him.

"Corona doesn't care who you are," he said. "Whether you think you're a big, tough guy or whether you're -- anything -- it doesn't matter. If you get it, it can kill you."

People have to decide whether they wanted to be in a hospital bed and be told they're going to be put on a ventilator and might never wake up, he said. And hear that their family could never say goodbye. He'd thought about it: "I don't want my wife to have to wonder ... is he going to come back out?"

"That's why I got a vaccine," Keathley said.

“Have at it,” says President Biden when asked about GOP plans to challenge his vaccination mandates in court.

France has become the latest European country -- and the most significant tourism destination -- to remove the United States from its safe travel list, following EU recommendations in the wake of a US COVID spike.

A French government decree issued on Thursday bumped the United States and Israel from the country's "green" list, down to "orange," effectively prohibiting nonessential travel to France for unvaccinated visitors.