Octopus Overlords

YellowKing wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:46 pm I'm trying to understand the political play here by the GOP. Do they just assume Trump will block it? Do they think blocking the release would hurt them more than help them, particularly since the original memo was a dud?

And yes, it bothers me that I have to view with extreme suspicion anything that looks like bipartisanship.

Carpet_pissr wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:17 am My first reaction to the "Demcratic memo", from a 30K foot view, was "ugh". Optics-wise, it seems childish, and maybe even diminishes the stupidity and harm (to the GOP/Trump) of the first memo.

In a remarkable interview with Fox News host Sean Hannity, House Intelligence Chair Devin Nunes on Monday night claimed it was the Hillary Clinton campaign that had been the real Russian collaborator, and had effectively weaponized the FBI against Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential election.

“It’s what happens in banana republics. It’s scary,” said the California Republican, who claimed that the controversial memo released by the House intel panel last week on a party-line vote showed a “clear link” between the Clinton campaign and Russia.

“There's clear evidence of collusion—that the Democratic Party and the Hillary Clinton campaign colluded with the Russians,” Nunes said, using his appearance on prime time’s top-rated cable-news show to decry the supposed “crickets from the media” about the biggest political story of the past week.

Nunes repeatedly told Hannity that his memo had turned the tables on Democrats, saying “the counterintelligence investigation should have been opened up against the Hillary campaign when they got ahold of the dossier.

“I just go by the old rule: Whatever they accuse you of doing, they’re actually doing,” Nunes said.

“I just go by the old rule: Whatever they accuse you of doing, they’re actually doing,” Nunes said.

Gaslighters will accuse others of actions — even when there is direct evidence that they are engaging in those same behaviors. So why do gaslighters do this? They are doing pre-emptive strikes and/or are projecting.

Paingod wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:41 pm So Nunes is blowing bubbles in the pool to block anyone from noticing he farted in it?

Releasing the memo is a big step, for you and for the country. You will be in the history books forever in connection with this memorandum; your grandchildren and great-grandchildren will read all about your participation in these events, and history can be a harsh and a cruel judge.

Surely, before committing yourself to such a step, you would have carefully read the underlying documents, viz. the warrant applications themselves, which constitute the evidence for the purported misbehavior. After all, you want to be as certain as you can possibly be that the information in the memo is accurate, and that you are presenting it as forcefully (and as fairly) as possible.
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Gowdy (and the two investigators) examined the applications and then summarized their contents for Nunes and the rest of the Committee. Then, Nunes, in effect, summarized that summary in his memorandum.

Putting aside the specifics of the five supposed instances of misbehavior [you can read them here]: Wouldn't you think that Rep. Nunes would want to have actually read the documents on which this assertion is (entirely) based? Just to be sure that the information was, indeed, omitted, and not buried somewhere in the mass of material? And that it was, indeed, material to the application?

That he relied on a summary of those documents prepared by a colleague and staff for this claim - given its obvious seriousness and significance for critical questions about how our government is functioning - beggars belief. How in heaven's name can Rep. Nunes can be certain - and he damned well better be certain, given the damage he is wreaking - that information was "omitted" from a series of documents without actually having read the documents?

Holman wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:02 pm https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/statu ... 3611028481

El Guapo wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:37 pm As a side note: Christopher Wray e-mailed me this morning to let me know that they had identified a fund with $10.3M (million) in it for me, that they had managed to keep away from unscrupulous foreign governmental officials who were trying to steal it from me. What good luck! It's very important that I write back and only e-mail directly with him (and the bank holding the money) as other people may still be trying to trick me out of this money (that I didn't even know I had!).

Pretty impressive that Wray and his team managed to find time for this while also dealing with all this Russia stuff. Amazing work!

Remus West wrote:

Holman wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:02 pm https://twitter.com/Evan_McMullin/statu ... 3611028481

That is truly frightening.

El Guapo wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:08 pm My guess is that either it's my payoff for unjustly attacking the President, or it's part of my stipend for my ongoing participation in the international Jewish conspiracy. Maybe both.

YellowKing wrote: Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:40 pm If Rosenstein quit, was fired, or recused himself, it would fall to No. 3 Rachel Brand.

No. 3 Official at the Justice Department Is Stepping Down https://t.co/3i299dzZvf

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:03 pm Surprising exactly no one, Trump has decided not to release the Democratic response to Nunes’s memo.

YellowKing wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:25 pm And blocks it on the grounds that "it contains classified passages." If you're going to block it, do it like a man and and say it's because you're a partisan piece of shit. God I hate that motherfucker.

YellowKing wrote: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:25 pm And blocks it on the grounds that "it contains classified passages." If you're going to block it, do it like a man and and say it's because you're a partisan piece of shit. God I hate that motherfucker.

YellowKing wrote:Not to mention that they released the Republican memo DESPITE the intelligence community saying it contained classified information. And they did it anyway.

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a relentless critic of the media, has found a way around the often unflattering coverage of his role in the Trump-Russia investigation — by operating his own partisan news outlet.

Resembling a local, conservative news site, “The California Republican” is classified on Facebook as a “media/news company” and claims to deliver “the best of US, California, and Central Valley news, sports, and analysis.”

But the website is paid for by Nunes’ campaign committee, according to small print at the bottom of the site. Leading the home page this week: A photograph of Nunes over the headline: “Understanding the process behind #ReleaseTheMemo.”

Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:54 pm Politico

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a relentless critic of the media, has found a way around the often unflattering coverage of his role in the Trump-Russia investigation — by operating his own partisan news outlet.

Resembling a local, conservative news site, “The California Republican” is classified on Facebook as a “media/news company” and claims to deliver “the best of US, California, and Central Valley news, sports, and analysis.”

But the website is paid for by Nunes’ campaign committee, according to small print at the bottom of the site. Leading the home page this week: A photograph of Nunes over the headline: “Understanding the process behind #ReleaseTheMemo.”

Sepiche wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:15 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:54 pm Politico

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a relentless critic of the media, has found a way around the often unflattering coverage of his role in the Trump-Russia investigation — by operating his own partisan news outlet.

Resembling a local, conservative news site, “The California Republican” is classified on Facebook as a “media/news company” and claims to deliver “the best of US, California, and Central Valley news, sports, and analysis.”

But the website is paid for by Nunes’ campaign committee, according to small print at the bottom of the site. Leading the home page this week: A photograph of Nunes over the headline: “Understanding the process behind #ReleaseTheMemo.”

Just to make things even shadier... apparently it shut down shortly after the media picked up on it.

Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:42 pm

Slate

Daehawk wrote: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:51 pm Are there no laws against shit like that? He seems to be a real shitheaded moron. Should be some law against stupid people doing stupid things in a Gov job. Course then we'd have no gov at all.