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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:51 pm
by ImLawBoy
Mr. Trump, will you drop out of the race if you're indicted?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:56 pm
by hepcat
After seeing how it worked out for Trump, Palin's dropping some swear words into her comments now.

I look forward to her describing her last sexual encounter at a rally, thus ensuring her candidacy for VP.
Federal law expressly prohibits candidates from directly or indirectly promising “the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy.” The penalty for violations could include fines or a year in jail — two years if the violation was willful.
I'm sure this has been happening since the first time someone grabbed a soap box and spoke out against his opponent Ogg from the cave two doors down, but to actually admit that's what's happening is hilariously inept.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 12:58 pm
by El Guapo
Defiant wrote:
Captain Caveman wrote:Seeing reports that Ben Carson will endorse Trump tomorrow.
Carson then said that Trump had promised him a role in his administration, “certainly in an advisory capacity.” Asked by NewsMax’s Steve Malzberg whether this meant a cabinet position, Carson declined to “reveal any details about it right now, because all of this is still very liquid.”
Federal law expressly prohibits candidates from directly or indirectly promising “the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy.” The penalty for violations could include fines or a year in jail — two years if the violation was willful.
Oops
That's sort of an odd law. I don't think there's necessarily anything problematic about a candidate promising (in a legally non-binding way) a particular cabinet position or at least a role in shaping administration policies in a specific area, in exchange for an endorsement. And I could see that being a logical factor in endorsing a candidate, given that once you have that promise you have some reason to believe that their administration's policies would reflect what you view as ideal public policy (since you have a reason to believe that you would be shaping them).

It would make a lot of sense to mandate *disclosure* of promises like that, to be sure. And I suppose that the terms of such employment could be such as to make the offer effectively a bribe (a promise of a $500,000 / year salary as Director of Chillin'). But if Trump (say) promised something like you can be Secretary of Health and Human Services if you endorse me and I win, I wouldn't be super troubled by that.

But of course the law says what it says.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:03 pm
by Defiant
I figure the law is probably designed to prevent cronyism.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:29 pm
by Moliere

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:32 pm
by hepcat
Anonymous really just needs to go away. They usually end up doing more harm than good, in my opinion.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:04 pm
by Zarathud
"I've got this Thing and it's Fucking Golden."

Ask former Governor Blagoyovich how that worked out for him.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 3:09 pm
by El Guapo
hepcat wrote:Anonymous really just needs to go away. They usually end up doing more harm than good, in my opinion.
I agree. At the same time, I do suspect that there's a lot of dirt to be had in Trump's files, so to the extent that they unearth that and make it public...I wouldn't be overly upset.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:14 pm
by Holman
Ugh. So now Trump gets patriot cred for foreign radicals attacking him.

It's like handing him the Reichstag fire, but dumber.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 5:35 pm
by Rip

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 6:36 pm
by Max Peck
Trump has been endorsed by Russia (you know that Putin only wants what is best for Amerika). :)
Donald Trump has found a fan in Russian state television.

BBC Monitoring reports that Dmitri Kiselyov, a top presenter, devoted time on his TV show to praise Mr Trump and show his support for his bid for president.

Mr Kiselyov called Mr Trump "anti-establishment" and that he could co-operate with Moscow.

"Russian state TV has regularly shown sympathy towards Mr Trump, especially after his apparently complimentary remarks about President Vladimir Putin. But it is only in the last week or so that it has started to unequivocally praise him," BBC Monitoring reports.

Mr Kiselyov "hit out strongly at what he saw as a conspiracy by the US political elite to stymie Mr Trump's White House ambitions" during his show on 13 March.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:43 pm
by Defiant
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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:51 pm
by Holman
Max Peck wrote:Trump has been endorsed by Russia (you know that Putin only wants what is best for Amerika). :)
[PRAVDA stalintrumpthink].
Can you imagine the shitstorm of OUTRAGE if Putin said something even mildly encouraging about a Democratic candidate?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:57 pm
by Zaxxon
Florida has been called for Trump (winner takes all delegates).

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:58 pm
by Zaxxon
...and Ohio for Kasich.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:58 pm
by Zaxxon
So Rubio's toast.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:08 pm
by em2nought
Zaxxon wrote:So Rubio's toast.
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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:12 am
by gilraen
Max Peck wrote:Trump has been endorsed by Russia (you know that Putin only wants what is best for Amerika). :)
Donald Trump has found a fan in Russian state television.

BBC Monitoring reports that Dmitri Kiselyov, a top presenter, devoted time on his TV show to praise Mr Trump and show his support for his bid for president.
Well...most Russians don't know or don't care who Trump is. He's been endorsed not by Russia but by a pundit who happens to be so pro-Putin that even Russians don't take him seriously anymore :) This is the guy that called BBC "a garbage dump" and who is blacklisted from entering the EU countries.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:19 am
by Max Peck
gilraen wrote:
Max Peck wrote:Trump has been endorsed by Russia (you know that Putin only wants what is best for Amerika). :)
Donald Trump has found a fan in Russian state television.

BBC Monitoring reports that Dmitri Kiselyov, a top presenter, devoted time on his TV show to praise Mr Trump and show his support for his bid for president.
Well...most Russians don't know or don't care who Trump is. He's been endorsed not by Russia but by a pundit who happens to be so pro-Putin that even Russians don't take him seriously anymore :) This is the guy that called BBC "a garbage dump" and who is blacklisted from entering the EU countries.
By Russia, I meant the Russian state rather than the Russian people. The Russian state, personified by Putin, would love to bury America. If they're rooting for Trump, it's because they expect him to make America anything but great. :)

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:27 am
by Defiant
ive by the sword, die by the sword. In Illinois presidential primaries, Republican voters choose delegates, not candidates. Normally this doesn't matter since they just vote for the delegates pledged to their guy. This year, though, there were some unusual exceptions:
This is big: Trump voters' aversion to candidates w/ foreign-sounding names cost him at least 2 delegates. Example:
link

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:29 am
by Zarathud
I believe it. Clinton had one delegate on the Illinois ballot who is a local Alderman on my shit list. I will not vote for the guy for anything.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:21 am
by Defiant

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:33 am
by GreenGoo
Geezus. Fucking. K-hrist.

Someone tell me it's just a bit and everyone was part of it.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:33 am
by Rip

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:39 am
by Kraken
GreenGoo wrote:
Geezus. Fucking. K-hrist.

Someone tell me it's just a bit and everyone was part of it.
Looks real to me. Gotta say, from the clips I've seen Bee is hitting it out of the park. And I speak as someone who didn't very much like her bits on the Daily Show.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:30 pm
by Sepiche
Kraken wrote: Looks real to me. Gotta say, from the clips I've seen Bee is hitting it out of the park. And I speak as someone who didn't very much like her bits on the Daily Show.
Yeah, I feel the same. Really enjoying what I've seen of her show so far.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:32 pm
by Rip
Every bit as real as Bar Rescue.

:roll:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:07 pm
by GreenGoo
Rip wrote:Every bit as real as Bar Rescue.

:roll:
an eyerolly emoticon is not going to convince me. Got any references/links/whatevers?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:53 pm
by hepcat
Rip wrote:Every bit as real as Bar Rescue.

:roll:
Can you elaborate? I'm not familiar with this "Bar Rescue". Is it also a fact based television show?

:pop:

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:56 pm
by Moliere
Sepiche wrote:
Kraken wrote: Looks real to me. Gotta say, from the clips I've seen Bee is hitting it out of the park. And I speak as someone who didn't very much like her bits on the Daily Show.
Yeah, I feel the same. Really enjoying what I've seen of her show so far.
Really? I haven't been able to finish a single segment when I click on these links. The humor is too obvious and her bias too clear to make it funny.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:58 pm
by hepcat
I've yet to watch it. The awesomeness of John Oliver has filled my political and social commentary needs for a while now. I'll have to give her a try though.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:07 pm
by LawBeefaroni
hepcat wrote:
Rip wrote:Every bit as real as Bar Rescue.

:roll:
Can you elaborate?
Bar Rescue = "reality" TV show
Trump Thing = didn't reinforce Rip's notions

Ergo, they are equivalent.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:26 pm
by malchior

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:43 pm
by hepcat
I wonder what will happen if he gets the nomination...but loses the presidential race? I can honestly see him disputing the results, even if they were impossible to dispute.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:48 pm
by Defiant
Don't worry. He'll pay their legal fees.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:51 pm
by Jaymann
Drumpf names his top foreign policy advisor.
Drumpf was also asked on Wednesday morning if his foreign policy was “neoisolationist,” to which he responded “I wouldn’t say that at all.”
Because he can't pronounce it?

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 3:59 pm
by Chaz
Hearing the phrase "I have a good brain and I've said a lot of things" said by a presidential candidate is just amazing.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:06 pm
by hepcat
His entire campaign has been based around the phrase, "Don't you worry about it, I'll handle it". That's one of the biggest reasons I find his popularity so discouraging. People are blindly following the personality...well, at least to a far greater extent than they usually do.

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:21 pm
by Defiant

Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow

Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:57 pm
by Jeff V
Apparently, there's an ad out there that shows Trump uttering some of his more misogynist statements. Yesterday morning, he told ABC News that he saw the ad and railed against Romney, who he said was behind it. Not two minutes later, he was telling The Today Show that he hasn't seen the ad and could not comment on it.

The lying sack of shit can't even keep his lies straight for two minutes!