Fighting back

[Smoove_B]

As someone living in a deep-red part of my state, we put up a blue flood light (nightlight) on our garage last Fall to try and "secretly" telegraph support for Harris; we still have it up and thankfully haven't been targeted in any way that I'm aware of. I like the idea of flying a Canadian flag though I'm nervous it's clearly more overt. I am also questioning my safety wearing a Leafs baseball cap in support of my favorite team - something I've been doing for years, despite what RM9 and Trent might tell you.

[Rumpy]

Yeah, be careful with that one. Stay safe guys!

[Kraken]

We're going to Markey's No Kings in America rally tomorrow afternoon in Pittsfield. IDK what to expect since we won't be inside the theater, and it's going to be a cold and windy day...but I'm hoping to mill about with a few hundred like-minded people outside.

It will be livestreamed if anybody wants to check in.

[Victoria Raverna]

Fighting back at Kenosha, WI:

https://www.youtube.com/live/4G0vBFdsAqE

[Grifman]

I think I'm going to buy a Canadian flag and put in up where we hang our seasonal flags. Maybe if everyone did that we could all agree (across the aisle, as they say) that we don't support what Trump is saying about Canada.

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Thank you for this suggestion. I am now planning to buy a Ukranian flag and hang it to replace the American flag I normally fly. And if/when I fly the US flag again, I will fly it upside down.

[Kurth]

We're going to Markey's No Kings in America rally tomorrow afternoon in Pittsfield. IDK what to expect since we won't be inside the theater, and it's going to be a cold and windy day...but I'm hoping to mill about with a few hundred like-minded people outside.

It will be livestreamed if anybody wants to check in.

Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I hope there are a shit ton of people there, but I’m not overly optimistic. Let us know.

[Holman]

I recommend rallies to everyone.

It might feel like yelling into the void, but believe me, the sense of not being alone really helps.

[Smoove_B]

It might feel like yelling into the void, but believe me, the sense of not being alone really helps.

Yes. I mentioned it a while back, but I participated in my first strike a few years back and I was genuinely surprised at how energizing it was to be around people all there to support the same thing.

[Kraken]

We're going to Markey's No Kings in America rally tomorrow afternoon in Pittsfield. IDK what to expect since we won't be inside the theater, and it's going to be a cold and windy day...but I'm hoping to mill about with a few hundred like-minded people outside.

It will be livestreamed if anybody wants to check in.

Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I hope there are a shit ton of people there, but I’m not overly optimistic. Let us know.

We arrived at the 2:30 start time to find a few dozen people with signs in front of the theater and a dozen MAGAts on the other side of the street. It was cold and windy so everyone soon went into the lobby/cafe, where we could watch the speakers on TV. The theater seats 658, but there were open seats in the balcony...so, maybe 400-ish people in there altogether. Speakers included (among others) Pittsfield's mayor, former MA governor Deval Patrick, the MA Dem Party chair, video appearances by the attorney general and Elizabeth Warren, and finally Ed Markey, who gave an inspiring stem-winder. Markey's theme was fight back, don't give up, organize. He invoked the long history of liberal activism in the state and in the Berkshires in particular.

I was expecting more of an outdoor demonstration. This was not that. Which suited me fine. It was just a couple of degrees above freezing with a stiff breeze, so I wouldn't have lasted very long outdoors. Just being in the presence of a lot of like-minded people was refreshing.

[Rumpy]

In town we have a bridge called the Bridge of Nations and on each side of it are planted flags from all around the world; 82 countries to be exact. They make up the heritage and culture of our diverse community.

[LawBeefaroni]

I never know how accurate or in circulation these things are but from my feed:

"In addition to not buying [from] Amazon, the group is calling on people to refuse to spend any money on any company owned by Amazon, including ShopBop, Audible, Washington Post, Amazon Alexa, IMDb, Prime Video, Ring, Twitch, Whole Foods and Zappos.
The Target boycott (or Target Fast, as it is being called by organizers), is set to last a bit longer — 40 days, all the way through Lent. That started on Wednesday and is being led by Atlanta pastor Jamal Bryant of the New Birth Missionary Baptist megachurch, in protest of the company’s move away from Diversity, Equity and Inclusion laws."

This shouldn't be a problem for me either. I have about $17 in gifting built up on Amazon reserved probably for my next pair of shoes, which would likely be $120 or so purchase unless GOP tariffs have or will jack the prices before I buy. They can wait. I'm in no hurry. So this would be my first actual minor inconvenience if it turns out to be real. And it wouldn't be if so many didn't insist on comping or compensating in gift cards and collecting comped amazon gift cards is the only thing I'd actually ever use.

Also, I had no idea Bezos/Amazon owned IMDB

Don't forget AWS:


https://spacelift.io/blog/who-is-using-aws

According to Intricately, some of the biggest spenders on AWS based on estimated EC2 monthly spend are:

Sony $11M
Adobe: $7.5M
Facebook: $5.6M
Johnson & Johnson: $5M
3M: $5M
Coca-Cola: $5M
Twitter: $3.7M
Netflix: $2.4M
ESPN: $2M
Reddit $2M
Twitch: $1.3M
Samsung: $1.2M
Walt Disney: $1.2M
Okta: $1M
Canva: $981K

[LawBeefaroni]

Should probably clarify why AWS:

Amazon E-Commerce Is A 'Loss-Leader' ... Its Real Money Is In 'Services,' Says Analyst

"Our view is that eCommerce does NOT drive AMZN's share price," Needham analyst Laura Martin wrote in a note Thursday.

"We believe AMZN is a Services company (ie, Advertising, Cloud, Prime Video, etc), NOT a products company, and eCommerce is all about products. Every quarter, we calculate a sum-of-the-parts valuation, and in most quarters we conclude that investors are paying almost nothing for AMZN's eCommerce."

She noted Amazon's net revenue for this year's second quarter grew 15% year-over-year to $86.4 billion, accounting for 58% of the company's revenue of $148 billion in a three-month period and growing four timers faster than product sales revenue.

Id hesitate to call the eCommerce side a loss leader but if the analysts are correct, boycotting thst side actually helps Amazon's bottom line. Still sends a message but reminder that boycotts are complicated.

[Holman]

In town we have a bridge called the Bridge of Nations and on each side of it are planted flags from all around the world; 82 countries to be exact. They make up the heritage and culture of our diverse community.

In Philadelphia we have something similar: 109 country's flags are posted along the Ben Franklin Parkway, which runs from City Hall to the Philadelphia Museum of Art.

Some don't make the cut. There are 195 recognized countries in the world, but some of them are tiny single-island nations. Still, the smallest nation in the world (the Holy See) gets a flag near the Philadelphia archbishop's cathedral.

[Rumpy]

In town we have a bridge called the Bridge of Nations and on each side of it are planted flags from all around the world; 82 countries to be exact. They make up the heritage and culture of our diverse community.

In Philadelphia we have something similar: 109 country's flags are posted along the Ben Franklin Parkway, which runs from City Hall to the Philadelphia Museum of Art.

Some don't make the cut. There are 195 recognized countries in the world, but some of them are tiny single-island nations. Still, the smallest nation in the world (the Holy See) gets a flag near the Philadelphia archbishop's cathedral.

There's a chance that the person who came up with the idea for our city was inspired by Philly. I think it's a nice idea to show diversity.

[Unagi]

I think I'm going to buy a Canadian flag and put in up where we hang our seasonal flags. Maybe if everyone did that we could all agree (across the aisle, as they say) that we don't support what Trump is saying about Canada.

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Thank you for this suggestion. I am now planning to buy a Ukranian flag and hang it to replace the American flag I normally fly. And if/when I fly the US flag again, I will fly it upside down.

Yeah, this is also good. We own one as well.

[Kraken]

We're going to Markey's No Kings in America rally tomorrow afternoon in Pittsfield. IDK what to expect since we won't be inside the theater, and it's going to be a cold and windy day...but I'm hoping to mill about with a few hundred like-minded people outside.

It will be livestreamed if anybody wants to check in.

Looking forward to hearing your impressions. I hope there are a shit ton of people there, but I’m not overly optimistic. Let us know.

A bit more info:

"The king is not coming back to Mass."

In case you can't read that story without a subscription, it essentially says that the theater was closer to full than I thought; only the second balcony was open, so there must've been around 600 people there.

[waitingtoconnect]

I think I'm going to buy a Canadian flag and put in up where we hang our seasonal flags. Maybe if everyone did that we could all agree (across the aisle, as they say) that we don't support what Trump is saying about Canada.

Buy a maple tree and plant it. I have a red maple in my front yard…

[Unagi]

I think I'm going to buy a Canadian flag and put in up where we hang our seasonal flags. Maybe if everyone did that we could all agree (across the aisle, as they say) that we don't support what Trump is saying about Canada.

Buy a maple tree and plant it. I have a red maple in my front yard…

Heh.

We have a stand of maples in our front yard and, believe it or not, we live on Maple Street.

[Rumpy]

I have friends in Vermont who have their own maple trees and they've been making their own maple syrup. Took a lot of trial and error, but they've been pretty happy to be able to do it.

[Punisher]

As good as fighting back by stop buying stuffs for a single day.

No. Wanton destruction not equal to protest by fiscal restraint.

Some folks just don’t realize when they’ve become as bad or even worse than the “enemy”.

You either die tge hero or live long enough to became the villain

[Victoria Raverna]

Fighting back:

[Blackhawk]

Another video the length of a full TV episode. What's in it that we care about to invest most of an hour of our time?

[Kraken]

Another video the length of a full TV episode. What's in it that we care about to invest most of an hour of our time?

Yeah my video attention span is about 5 minutes, MAYBE 10, unless I have a good reason to invest more. This isn't just aimed at Vic; the rest of you know who you are.

[Victoria Raverna]

Another video the length of a full TV episode. What's in it that we care about to invest most of an hour of our time?

So you are talking about fighting back but can't spare an hour of your time?

No wonder Trump won.

[Blackhawk]

Another video the length of a full TV episode. What's in it that we care about to invest most of an hour of our time?

So you are talking about fighting back but can't spare an hour of your time?

No wonder Trump won.

[Victoria Raverna]

Fighting back if it is convenient.

[Alefroth]

Another video the length of a full TV episode. What's in it that we care about to invest most of an hour of our time?

So you are talking about fighting back but can't spare an hour of your time?

No wonder Trump won.

Took the guffaws right out of my mouth.

[Zarathud]

As if anyone believes watching your propaganda is fighting back against Trump.

[Archinerd]

Should probably clarify why AWS:

Amazon E-Commerce Is A 'Loss-Leader' ... Its Real Money Is In 'Services,' Says Analyst

"Our view is that eCommerce does NOT drive AMZN's share price," Needham analyst Laura Martin wrote in a note Thursday.

"We believe AMZN is a Services company (ie, Advertising, Cloud, Prime Video, etc), NOT a products company, and eCommerce is all about products. Every quarter, we calculate a sum-of-the-parts valuation, and in most quarters we conclude that investors are paying almost nothing for AMZN's eCommerce."

She noted Amazon's net revenue for this year's second quarter grew 15% year-over-year to $86.4 billion, accounting for 58% of the company's revenue of $148 billion in a three-month period and growing four timers faster than product sales revenue.

Id hesitate to call the eCommerce side a loss leader but if the analysts are correct, boycotting thst side actually helps Amazon's bottom line. Still sends a message but reminder that boycotts are complicated.

Amazon may not feel it but there are still benefits. The local small business owners will appreciate it

[Victoria Raverna]

As if anyone believes watching your propaganda is fighting back against Trump.

So Bernie Sanders is spreading propaganda?

[Blackhawk]

Anything anyone says can be made into propaganda by any side through editing and commentary.

There are tens - probably hundreds - of thousands of videos on 'fighting back.' If I were going to dedicate an hour of my life to watching a video on that topic, it would be one from a trusted, reliable source.

You've posted so many videos that qualify as propaganda that most of us assume that anything you post (especially something that's 40 minutes long!) is just more of the same, especially if it isn't accompanied by something that tells us why you felt the need to post it, and discusses what made it meaningful.

And asking leading questions isn't making a point. It comes across as an attempt to manipulate the conversation to your benefit.

[Victoria Raverna]

Anything anyone says can be made into propaganda by any side through editing and commentary.

There are tens - probably hundreds - of thousands of videos on 'fighting back.' If I were going to dedicate an hour of my life to watching a video on that topic, it would be one from a trusted, reliable source.

You've posted so many videos that qualify as propaganda that most of us assume that anything you post (especially something that's 40 minutes long!) is just more of the same, especially if it isn't accompanied by something that tells us why you felt the need to post it, and discusses what made it meaningful.

And asking leading questions isn't making a point. It comes across as an attempt to manipulate the conversation to your benefit.

It is 40 minutes long because it is the whole Sanders speech without any editing and commentary. But I guess you prefer a 2 minutes video with editing and commentary instead?

I think some of you guys are too lazy. It is 40 minutes long, sure. But nothing stop you from just watch a few minutes to see if it is interesting to you or not.

[Blackhawk]

And there's nothing to prevent you from taking two minutes and typing up, "This is a speech Bernie gave about _________. I think he has some good ideas, especially _________."

There are a lot of videos posted here. Most of them don't interest every one of us, so we give people an idea of what we're asking them to watch, so that they can choose what's worth their time. It's common courtesy. After all, we're asking them to spend their time on something we thought was worthwhile.

You posted the video. It's up to you to tell us why we care.

Hint: I'm trying to tell you one of the reasons that you're getting such a poor reception. The fix is easy, but it's on you to make it happen.

[Victoria Raverna]

Like what I wrote. Some of you are too lazy and like to be spoon fed. I posted a video. it is okay if you're not interested in it. But the video has a title that is clear about what it is about. You can also see Bernie Sanders.

I just thought people here are smart enough to figure out themselves about what the video is about from that.

It is in the title:

Bernie Sanders Lays Out Plan For Americans To 'Defeat Trumpism"

[Blackhawk]

[Zarathud]

Even ChatGPT bot can analyze a video in bullet points.

Gaslight us all you want, VR. It’s not going to work other than to show your inability to explain, or take a position. It’s annoying and sad, frankly.

[Victoria Raverna]

Even ChatGPT bot can analyze a video in bullet points.

Gaslight us all you want, VR. It’s not going to work other than to show your inability to explain, or take a position. It’s annoying and sad, frankly.

Then use ChatGPT?

[GreenGoo]

Then use ChatGPT?

No.

[Unagi]

And there's nothing to prevent you from taking two minutes and typing up, "This is a speech Bernie gave about _________. I think he has some good ideas, especially _________."

There are a lot of videos posted here. Most of them don't interest every one of us, so we give people an idea of what we're asking them to watch, so that they can choose what's worth their time. It's common courtesy. After all, we're asking them to spend their time on something we thought was worthwhile.

You posted the video. It's up to you to tell us why we care.

Hint: I'm trying to tell you one of the reasons that you're getting such a poor reception. The fix is easy, but it's on you to make it happen.

BINGO!

[Unagi]

Also, BINGO!