Robo Rally-Turn 18 complete- REMUS WEST WINS!!!!!

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:50 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:
Remus West wrote:Cards? Not that I'm over anxious to plot my next turn or anything.
Cards are at home. Look for them after 7 CDT. Sorry for the delay.

N..n..na..na..n..no no problem. I ddddon't ne..ne..neee...need the cards. I'm just f..f..fine w..without my n..next ha..ha..hand.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:55 pm

Ah, the smack talk. I love it. One of the best parts about this game.

srdaniel · Post by **srdaniel** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:02 pm

stessier wrote:It's just the way nature intended. No sense in going to pieces over it.

*chuckle* To late.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:51 pm

Hands are out. Deadline moved to 7 pm so that I can begin processing and posting before 8.

Twitch is shut down. He begins turn 4 with no damage. Any damage administered to a shut down robot is present upon reboot on the next turn.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:53 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Hands are out. Deadline moved to 7 pm so that I can begin processing and posting before 8.

Twitch is shut down. He begins turn 4 with no damage. Any damage administered to a shut down robot is present upon reboot on the next turn.

Supposing we do enough damage to him that he would have a register locked beginning the next turn, what card would be placed there?

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:08 pm

Isgrimnur will confirm, but I'm pretty sure it's random. I'd assume that if register 5 was locked, the 5th card dealt would be to that locked register.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 10:41 pm

Once a register is locked, whatever was there stays there until such time as it can be unlocked and removed.

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:03 pm

The basis of the question is that when a bot is powered down, all cards have already been cleared from the registers, shuffled back into the deck and dealt out. So if Twitch takes enough damage to lock register 5 while powered down, there are no cards there.

I couldn't the find it in the old manual, but the new AH manual has a "Locking Registers During Power Down" sidebar thingy:

Because robots can still be damaged during a power down, they can sometimes accumulate enough Damage tokens for a register to lock up before they reenter play. Registers that become locked when your robot is powered down are immediately programmed randomly: Draw a card from the top of the deck and put it in that register, face up.

So it sounds like the registers get programmed from the un-dealt cards remaining in the deck. Granted, it *is* from the new manual but it makes sense. Especially if Register 5 from the prior turn was a high Move 3 and it's already been dealt out to another player.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:04 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Once a register is locked, whatever was there stays there until such time as it can be unlocked and removed.

Right, but since he is shut down there are no cards in his registers. I'm wondering what happens if Twonky and I shoot stessier a lot this turn and he starts his "new" turn with a register locked. Not that I would collude to shoot him a lot but just say it were to happen....

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:39 am

Remus West wrote:Not that I would collude to shoot him a lot but just say it were to happen....

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:00 am

I missed the directed nature of the question. Yes, if he were to come back in with a locked register, it would be a random card off the deck.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:08 am

Hmmm, so I could say now that I'm shutting down next turn as well, right? Then whatever register(s) locked would be unlocked and they would start shooting away at the 4 top level damage.

Hmmm....

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:20 am

Yes, you can declare shut down for the second turn. But you are at 0 damage as soon as turn 4 starts, so any damage you take now will be against the top 4 damage. They would have to do 5 damage to you in turn 4 before they could lock your registers.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:21 am

Isgrimnur wrote:Yes, you can declare shut down for the second turn. But you are at 0 damage as soon as turn 4 starts, so any damage you take now will be against the top 4 damage.

Oh ho! I thought it didn't disappear until the end of the turn, so that Remus would have been shooting into my Registers immediately.

Never mind then. Next turn it's time to Rock n Roll!

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:42 am

stessier wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Yes, you can declare shut down for the second turn. But you are at 0 damage as soon as turn 4 starts, so any damage you take now will be against the top 4 damage.
Oh ho! I thought it didn't disappear until the end of the turn, so that Remus would have been shooting into my Registers immediately.

Never mind then. Next turn it's time to Rock n Roll!

[innocent voice]Would I purposely shoot you?[/innocent voice]

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:34 am

stessier wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:Yes, you can declare shut down for the second turn. But you are at 0 damage as soon as turn 4 starts, so any damage you take now will be against the top 4 damage.
Oh ho! I thought it didn't disappear until the end of the turn, so that Remus would have been shooting into my Registers immediately.

Never mind then. Next turn it's time to Rock n Roll!

That would not have mattered since you would then have healed it all due to being shut down. By losing your damage at the start of the round I get to make sure you are damaged at the beginning of next.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:23 am

Remus West wrote:That would not have mattered since you would then have healed it all due to being shut down. By losing your damage at the start of the round I get to make sure you are damaged at the beginning of next.

I'm getting rid of 4 and the worst you can do is 3, so I'm good with it.

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:37 am

I think it depends on just how determined he is

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:42 am

stessier wrote:
Remus West wrote:That would not have mattered since you would then have healed it all due to being shut down. By losing your damage at the start of the round I get to make sure you are damaged at the beginning of next.
I'm getting rid of 4 and the worst you can do is 3, so I'm good with it.

The best WE can do is substantially more than that.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:08 pm

Remus West wrote:The best WE can do is substantially more than that.

I would love to see the math on that one.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:41 pm

I suppose I should stop stressing and wondering why I don't have stessier's hand yet...

All hands are in. Phase 1 will be up sometime after 7 p.m.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I suppose I should stop stressing and wondering why I don't have stessier's hand yet...

All part of my Evil Plan

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 1:44 pm

Remus West wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
Remus West wrote:Cards? Not that I'm over anxious to plot my next turn or anything.
Cards are at home. Look for them after 7 CDT. Sorry for the delay.
N..n..na..na..n..no no problem. I ddddon't ne..ne..neee...need the cards. I'm just f..f..fine w..without my n..next ha..ha..hand.

Looks like we're getting a copy of this?

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 2:00 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Isgrimnur wrote:
Remus West wrote:Cards? Not that I'm over anxious to plot my next turn or anything.
Cards are at home. Look for them after 7 CDT. Sorry for the delay.
N..n..na..na..n..no no problem. I ddddon't ne..ne..neee...need the cards. I'm just f..f..fine w..without my n..next ha..ha..hand.
Looks like we're getting a copy of this?

Yes please. This is a great game. It has cost me untold hours of productive work time already.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:28 pm

Phase 1:
Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) - Move 2 (770)
mipe (Hulk X-90) - Move 3 (800)
Remus West (Squash Bot) - move 1 (660)
Shinjin (Twonky) - Rotate Left
srdaniel (Spin Bot) - Move 3 (810)

Spinbot gears up and shoves Trundle Bot forward two spaces into the wall.
Trundle Bot then tries to help out, moving into the wall as well.

Hulk X-90 is pushed E by the belts and rotated left.
Trundle Bot is shifted S by the belt and rotated right.
Squash Bot is shifted S and rotated left.
Twonky is shifted W and rotated left.

Squash Bot shoots Twonky in the head.

Weapon option to Twonky. Laser or Tractor Beam.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 2
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 2
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 3
stessier (Twitch) : 0

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:44 pm

I like the addition of the Archive spots!

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:32 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Weapon option to Twonky. Laser or Tractor Beam.

Ok, let's see here. Squash Bot couldn't know which direction I'd be facing, but must have accounted for it in his programming. In fact, I think he's counting on it.

So I'm going to put a Laser Beam between his widely space eyes.

Let's see what you do with that move 2 in your second register now.

Isgrimnur wrote:Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 2

Also, I think you applied the head shot to Squash Bot rather than Twonky. Can we pretend that we both got confused and shot ourselves? Maybe it's some sort of twisted robo-mirror-mime thing!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:52 pm

Yeah, I screwed up the damage. Phase 1 complete.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 2
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 3
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 3
stessier (Twitch) : 0

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:57 pm

Phase 2:
Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) - U Turn
mipe (Hulk X-90) - U Turn
Remus West (Squash Bot) - Rotate Left
Shinjin (Twonky) - Back Up (430)
srdaniel (Spin Bot) - Rotate Left

Trundle Bot is shifted one square W.
Squash Bot is shifted one square E.

Trundle Bot takes a long-range shot to the spleen from Hulk X-90.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 3
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 3
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 3
stessier (Twitch) : 0

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:07 pm

Phase 3:
Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) - Rotate Right
mipe (Hulk X-90) - Move 3 (820)
Remus West (Squash Bot) - Move 1 (brakes) (500)
Shinjin (Twonky) - Rotate Right
srdaniel (Spin Bot) - Move 1 (640)

Trundle Bot is shifted one space W.
Squash Bot is shifted one Space E.

Spin Bot dives in front of Hulk X-90 to protect his buddy, Trundle Bot, taking damage to his own spleen.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 3
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 3
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 4
stessier (Twitch) : 0

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:17 pm

Phase 4:
Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) - Move 1 (630)
mipe (Hulk X-90) - Rotate Right
Remus West (Squash Bot) - move 3 (840)
Shinjin (Twonky) - Move 2 (670)
srdaniel (Spin Bot) - Move 2 (700)

Trundle bot is shifted one block S.
Squash Bot is shifted one block E and rotated left.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 3
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 1
Shinjin (Twonky) : 3
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 4
stessier (Twitch) : 0

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:31 pm

Phase 5:
Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) - Move 3 (790)
mipe (Hulk X-90) - Rotate Left
Remus West (Squash Bot) - move 2 (720)
Shinjin (Twonky) - Rotate Left
srdaniel (Spin Bot) - Move 1 (490)

Trundle Bot smashes into the wall behind the first flag.
Squash Bot drives into the wall behind the single wrench.
Spin Bot acquaints himself more closely with the wall in front of him.

Twonky pulls Trundle Bot off the flag.

Squash Bot heals his point of damage and updates his archive location.

Damage Count

Grundbegriff (Trundle Bot) : 3
mipe (Hulk X-90) : 2
Remus West (Squash Bot) : 0
Shinjin (Twonky) : 3
srdaniel (Spin Bot) : 4
stessier (Twitch) : 0

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:45 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Twonky drills another hole in Trundle Bot's side.

Actually, I think I'd rather use the Tractor Beam.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:48 pm

My bad, I forgot. That makes things more interesting...

Processing...

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:59 pm

Should be corrected above and in OP. Check my work.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:01 pm

How do you say "You suck" in the binary language of moisture vaporators?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:04 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Should be corrected above and in OP. Check my work.

I take heat from the laser now, right?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:07 pm

Not this phase. The tractor beam activates at the same time as the laser and it takes time to haul your iron-cast butt into the line of fire.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:21 pm

Squash Bot would like to thank Twonky for not using the damned tractor beam on him as that would have sucked.

Shinjin · Post by **Shinjin** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:24 pm

Wouldn't have been *too* bad. I think you would have wound up just east of Twitch. I couldn't risk your pushing north as that would have dropped me in a pit