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Remus West wrote:Honestly Sanchez isn't worse than Manning was much of last season. I'd be more concerned about keeping the defense in tack were I a Broncos fan. Whomever they end up with at QB is not going to be asked to win a lot of games for them. Mostly they will need to not lose them. Sanchez did a great job of that when the Jets had an actual defense. Not that I'd be excited but I wouldn't be all too upset either.

Xmann wrote:Elway just tweeted this is just the first step in the process of finding a QB.

Got to think Sanchez is just for competition and no real idea he can be the starter.

Right?

Enough wrote:

Xmann wrote:Elway just tweeted this is just the first step in the process of finding a QB.

Got to think Sanchez is just for competition and no real idea he can be the starter.

Right?

Let me join you in the great River Denial. I have been seeing a conspiracy theory this is all because PHI wouldn't trade him to SF, so we will now.

Xmann wrote:

Enough wrote:

Xmann wrote:Elway just tweeted this is just the first step in the process of finding a QB.

Got to think Sanchez is just for competition and no real idea he can be the starter.

Right?

Let me join you in the great River Denial. I have been seeing a conspiracy theory this is all because PHI wouldn't trade him to SF, so we will now.

That was actually my first thought.

Sanchez and draft picks for Kaepernick

rshetts2 wrote:So Philly gave Denver a Dirty Sanchez?

Per a league source, contracts being offered to new players state that the laws of Missouri, not California, control the relationship. The NFL Players Association has in turn instructed all certified contract agents to reject that term as “inappropriate.”
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From the contract: “The parties hereto acknowledge that this Player Contract has been negotiated and executed in Missouri; that should any dispute, claim or cause of action (collectively ‘dispute’) arise concerning rights or liabilities arising from the relationship between the Player and the Club, the parties hereto agree that the law governing such dispute shall be the law of the State of Missouri. Furthermore, the exclusive jurisdiction for resolving Workers’ Compensation related claims shall be the Division of Workers’ Compensation of Missouri, and the Missouri Workers’ Compensation Act shall govern.”
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The NFLPA strongly disagrees. “We believe that any reference to the state of Missouri is inappropriate since the Rams have relocated to California as evidenced by the fact that they have changed their name on their website to the Los Angeles Rams, are prepared to hold off-season workouts and training camp in California, and will practice and play their home games in California in 2016,” the union says in the memo to all agents.

stessier wrote:The Patriots just traded Chandler Jones and his drug dealer to the Cardinals! Did NOT see that coming.

Baltimore Ravens cornerback Tray Walker died Friday, one day after being critically injured in a dirt bike accident in Liberty City, Florida. He was 23.
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Walker was heading west on Northwest 75th Street on a Honda dirt bike when he collided with a Ford Escape heading south on Northwest 21st Avenue, according to the Miami-Dade Police Department. The accident occurred at about 7:50 p.m. on Thursday, and police said Walker's bike did not have headlights and that he was wearing dark clothing.

The intersection where the accident took place is a two-way stop. Walker was not wearing a helmet, Butler said.

Isgrimnur wrote:

Moliere wrote:Baltimore Ravens Cornerback Tray Walker, 23, Dies After Tragic Motorbike Accident

According to what police told ESPN, Walker crashed with another vehicle at an intersection around 8 p.m. last night. They added that he was wearing dark clothes and the motorcycle did not have lights.

Browns Executive Vice President of Football Operations Sashi Brown, coach Hue Jackson and Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta met with a small group of Browns media here at the NFL Annual Meeting on Monday morning.

Here are some quick highlights:

• Brown said the Browns are moving forward on possibly signing quarterback Robert Griffin III and that the team is doing its due diligence. He did not sound like a signing is imminent, but those things can change. Griffin III and his agent, Ben Dogra, are not at the meetings.

• Brown said the Browns are not actively engaged in trade talks with the 49ers for Colin Kaepernick, "and at this point we don't anticipate being engaged with San Francisco." He said the Browns were called to see if they were interested, and engaged in some preliminary talks. He said the Browns' interest was "over-reported," and that they never negotiated a draft pick or a new contract for Kaepernick.

• Brown and Jackson said the Browns are proceeding as if they won't have suspended receiver Josh Gordon, and will deal with it if he's reinstated. In the event he is reinstated, "we would need to see where his head is at before you bring him back into the locker room.''
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• Brown said Gordon is not part of the Browns organization right now, and therefore he had no comment on him hanging out with Johnny Manziel.

El Guapo wrote:Solid advice

Moliere wrote:

El Guapo wrote:Solid advice

I thought your former team still owns you after retirement? Slavery, er contracts, don't end because you "retire".

The league still will ask for volunteers. If one is not forthcoming, a team will be appointed. All organizations will be eligible with the exception of those that have a first-year head coach; teams that have made the playoffs in at least one of the last two seasons; and teams that have participated in the previous 10 seasons.

EvilHomer3k wrote:I don't understand the playoff rule. Wouldn't you want a team from the playoffs over a team that didn't make the playoffs? Who wants to watch the Cleveland Browns edition? Forcing non-playoff teams to participate when they don't want to seems like it would make it more likely they would not make the playoffs due to the unwanted distraction. From a monetary standpoint winning teams generally have more fans (or at least more vocal fans) which would lead to higher ratings. Makes no sense to me.

El Guapo wrote:I also wonder about the internal politics of stuff like this. I generally assume that teams would not be super interested in participating since it seems like mostly a distraction from being a successful football team, and the value of participating (PR) would be more diminished for successful teams.

Which leads me to wonder whether dominant franchises pushed for that exclusion.

A longtime NFL reporter revealed Wednesday the NFL agreed to a deal where the Los Angeles Rams — then St. Louis — didn’t have to do HBO’s “Hard Knocks” series in 2014 if they drafted Michael Sam.

the deal is not actually for $53 million and five years. It's a one-year contract for $5 million (with a max of $8 million with incentives), with an option for four-years, $48 million with $20.5 million guaranteed.

Should the Broncos decide they do not want to pay him $12 million a year for the next four years, they can decline the option, and Okung will hit the free agent market once again. If they do, he will become the fourth-highest paid tackle in the league. Last season, according to Pro Football Focus, he ranked 24th in the league.

Starting to sound like a pretty bad deal? Well – it gets worse.

The Broncos could actually get away with paying him just $1 million, considering how the first year of the deal is structured. His base salary is $2 million, he'll get a roster bonus of $2 million once he is on the roster for one regular season game, and he'll get a $1 million workout bonus for participating in the off-season program—but not till it ends.

RunningMn9 wrote:Be careful with that line of reasoning. That's the narrative that's being pushed behind the scenes by agents. In order to justify the current cost of agents.

I've analysis by others (ex-agents with no skin in the game), and the deal is not nearly as bad as it's being made out to be considering that Okung is coming off shoulder surgery.

Jeff V wrote:This is pretty much a one-year prove it deal

RunningMn9 wrote:

Jeff V wrote:This is pretty much a one-year prove it deal

That's the point that I saw made - that this was the only option facing Okung given the health questions. Agents are making a big deal about it, but the issue wouldn't have been much different had he had an agent.

RunningMn9 wrote:I can't imagine that he's crazy enough to do this without even a lawyer. But I would also think that there's got to be a limit to how badly the team is willing to screw over an employee that they need to rely on in some capacity to protect the blind side of their QB. Like...you want that player to be happy, not seething with contract-related rage.

El Guapo wrote:It just seems like a fine line between "using an agent" and "using a lawyer who regularly does professional sports contract negotiation and execution." I would think that a lot of agents are or are associated with lawyers.