Octopus Overlords

Chaz wrote: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:52 pm He doesn't have ambivalence about paying taxes

LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:35 pm Well let's face it...

PLW wrote:Did we just get our very own Russian troll bot?

PLW wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:52 pm Did we just get our very own Russian troll bot?

SheldonTrio wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2017 11:48 pm Trump is good for me. You know people elected him as a president so more or less we should follow him.
Like President Duterte in the Philippines, Ironfist. They have similarities in running Government. Just saying.

Zarathud wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:59 am What if it seems more intelligent than Rip?

NickAragua wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:21 am Hey Yuri, how's it going back in the motherland? Is it still the same shithole I left 27 years ago?

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:55 am

Zarathud wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:59 am What if it seems more intelligent than Rip?

It would mean someone developed an AI capable of taking over the world......

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:35 pm He also said any healthcare bill he signed would insure everybody . He clearly has no qualms saying whatever he thinks people will like the best, even if it's not even close to the truth.

Rip wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:55 am

Zarathud wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 2:59 am What if it seems more intelligent than Rip?

It would mean someone developed an AI capable of taking over the world......

Grifman wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:52 pm If you haven't figured out that Trump can't be trusted in anything

Remus West wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:57 pm

Grifman wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 3:52 pm If you haven't figured out that Trump can't be trusted in anything

FTFY

Harwood: All those strengths kind of undercut the argument that 'Oh, we have to do tax reform right now,' don't they?

Cohn: We have not had wage growth in this country. So, we've got a lot of Americans finding work, but they're finding work at stagnant wages. Really to continue going on with this recovery, this long recovery, is we have to find a way to really drive wage growth. What our tax plan is really aimed at doing is creating wage growth...

...Harwood: If you look at Joint Tax, $1 trillion in net cuts for business, $200 billion through the estate tax, and $300 billion for individuals. So, four times as much in business tax cuts and estate tax as for individuals.

Cohn: Yup. But, John, if you look at what we're doing for middle-class taxpayers, the reality is kind of simple. The median-income family in the United States, the family that earns about $60,000 in the United States, the Speaker [Paul Ryan] talked about them getting a $1,182 tax cut. That family is now paying a marginal tax rate of less than 1 percent. They're paying less than $500 of total taxes in the system. So a $60,000 earner, family of four, is paying less than $500. We have cut their taxes significantly. You can't go much further in the tax system.

Harwood: You're saying you can't give middle-class taxpayers more of a tax break than you've done?

Another revision to the House bill that Brady released Thursday appears to dramatically change the rules on what sort of political activities a tax-exempt nonprofit organization may engage in. Language that applied only to religious organizations, giving them a freer hand to speak out on political campaigns, was broadened in the new amendment to include all 501(c) (3) organizations.

Pyperkub wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2017 4:46 pm
If you're serious about wage (and job) growth - make the tax cuts dependent upon them - only give them to companies which increase base wages and hire more people.

He also conveniently forgets payroll taxes here (roughly 7.1% of income), as usual.

He also dodges all the important questions and answers "I disagree" without providing ANYTHING to back up his disagreement.

El Guapo wrote:The GOP Has Done the Impossible: Make Tax Cuts Unpopular.

Octavious wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:16 pm

El Guapo wrote:The GOP Has Done the Impossible: Make Tax Cuts Unpopular.

I just don't see how this will end well for their party. It'sjust like the healthcare. They are better off with it failing. I fully expect this to get through in some way saddly. I just hope my taxes don't skyrocket.

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El Guapo wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:33 pm

Octavious wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:16 pm

El Guapo wrote:The GOP Has Done the Impossible: Make Tax Cuts Unpopular.

I just don't see how this will end well for their party. It'sjust like the healthcare. They are better off with it failing. I fully expect this to get through in some way saddly. I just hope my taxes don't skyrocket.

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I feel like what we're missing here are the exact conversations between GOP leadership and donors. Politically the obvious thing to do would be to cut back the corporate tax cuts a bit - i.e. rather than going from 35% to 20%, go to 25% or 30% - and then use that money to preserve some of the more popular exemptions. That that doesn't seem to be on the table suggests that some critical donors are drawing a firm line on the corporate tax rate (or, I suppose, that Ryan / McConnell are pretty ideologically committed to that part of it).