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Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:52 pm
by Unagi
GungHo wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:51 pm Who even says that? 'Nearly 17'? That just screams desperation.
Honestly it makes no sense.

Nearly 17?
Was it 14? 16?

Is 17 a big even number people feel is a milestone, like 10 or 50?

It’s seriously weird.

Or have they tested none, but they have Nearly Tested exactly 17.

And then of course, as Smoove points out, it’s a pathetically small number.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:53 pm
by El Guapo
Unagi wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:52 pm
GungHo wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:51 pm Who even says that? 'Nearly 17'? That just screams desperation.
Honestly it makes no sense.

Nearly 17?
Was it 14? 16?

Is 17 a big even number people feel is a milestone, like 10 or 50?

It’s seriously weird.

Or have they tested none, but they have Nearly Tested exactly 17.
Wonder if they have 17 people "to be tested", but they lack the necessary testing materials. So they've nearly tested them, but for a total lack of ability to test anyone.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:56 pm
by El Guapo
Posted nearly three times.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:00 pm
by Smoove_B
Actual science

https://twitter.com/LizSzabo/status/1235951556903817216
Fauci is surprised at "lack of detectable infections" in kids. The absence of cases in kids <15 is "almost unbelievable. They have to be getting infected... Why the're not getting clinical disease is really interesting."
I guess we can expect Trump surrogates to start suggesting we drain kids and use them to treat sick people? I wish I were joking.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:06 pm
by malchior
This is the predicted beginning of the gas lighting. When testing rolls out and the numbers shoot up they'll say the media mischaracterized it or that dirty immigrants snuck it in over the border.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:08 pm
by El Guapo
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:00 pm Actual science

https://twitter.com/LizSzabo/status/1235951556903817216
Fauci is surprised at "lack of detectable infections" in kids. The absence of cases in kids <15 is "almost unbelievable. They have to be getting infected... Why the're not getting clinical disease is really interesting."
I guess we can expect Trump surrogates to start suggesting we drain kids and use them to treat sick people? I wish I were joking.
Is this kids actually not getting infected? Or is this a lack of information - we're not seeing cases on kids getting *reported*? Neither one seems probable, although some variation on one or the other has to be the case.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:10 pm
by malchior
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:00 pm Actual science

I guess we can expect Trump surrogates to start suggesting we drain kids and use them to treat sick people? I wish I were joking.
I don't know if it is actual science. We have a glimpse at the why part of this. They weren't eligible to be tested. They only tested people who directly went to China or Italy. It is probably likely they just haven't actually done any yet. Otherwise this is some sci fi plague meant to finally kill the boomers who have vexed the young for so long.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:13 pm
by El Guapo
malchior wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:10 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:00 pm Actual science

I guess we can expect Trump surrogates to start suggesting we drain kids and use them to treat sick people? I wish I were joking.
I don't know if it is actual science. We have a glimpse at the why part of this. They weren't eligible to be tested. They only tested people who directly went to China or Italy. It is probably likely they just haven't actually done any yet. Otherwise this is some sci fi plague meant to finally kill the boomers who have vexed the young for so long.
Maybe Barron Trump is lashing out at his father. I hear he's quite good at the cyber - maybe he's also great at the bio???

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by LawBeefaroni
I heard speculation that kids are exposed to all manner of coronaviruses in school so they may have some kind of ongoing resistance that helps against this one.


That or they developed the vaccine already and are using Covid-19 to kill off all the olds. I recall a series or two about that on Netflix.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm
by Paingod
El Guapo wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:08 pmIs this kids actually not getting infected? Or is this a lack of information - we're not seeing cases on kids getting *reported*? Neither one seems probable, although some variation on one or the other has to be the case.
On NPR this morning I heard something similar, only it was kids getting sick - but it's far milder than it is for adults. They still shed the virus, but don't get as sick, unless they had some sort of pre-existing health condition.

Maybe it's like chicken pox. I've heard that's a lot worse for adults than kids as well.
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pmI heard speculation that kids are exposed to all manner of coronaviruses in school so they may have some kind of ongoing resistance that helps against this one.
If that's true, then I'd expect their parents and siblings to share the common thread as they'd bring those things home for everyone to enjoy. I know when our kids first started going to school we got hit with illness after illness. It died down after a few years and now we're pretty much on par with everyone else for illness. Kids are petri dishes.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:47 pm
by NickAragua
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm That or they developed the vaccine already and are using Covid-19 to kill off all the olds. I recall a series or two about that on Netflix.
Can't blame them, really.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:49 pm
by Paingod
NickAragua wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:47 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm That or they developed the vaccine already and are using Covid-19 to kill off all the olds. I recall a series or two about that on Netflix.
Can't blame them, really.
No way, man. The GOP needs those votes.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:51 pm
by NickAragua
Paingod wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:49 pm
NickAragua wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:47 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm That or they developed the vaccine already and are using Covid-19 to kill off all the olds. I recall a series or two about that on Netflix.
Can't blame them, really.
No way, man. The GOP needs those votes.
I think the implication was that the kids developed the vaccines.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:30 pm
by ImLawBoy
NickAragua wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:47 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 1:45 pm That or they developed the vaccine already and are using Covid-19 to kill off all the olds. I recall a series or two about that on Netflix.
Can't blame them, really.
I have been told that I'm the meanest dad ever, so it makes sense.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:37 pm
by Unagi
El Guapo wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:53 pm
Unagi wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:52 pm
GungHo wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 10:51 pm Who even says that? 'Nearly 17'? That just screams desperation.
Honestly it makes no sense.

Nearly 17?
Was it 14? 16?

Is 17 a big even number people feel is a milestone, like 10 or 50?

It’s seriously weird.

Or have they tested none, but they have Nearly Tested exactly 17.
Wonder if they have 17 people "to be tested", but they lack the necessary testing materials. So they've nearly tested them, but for a total lack of ability to test anyone.


I've now got Edge of Seventeen in my head.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:38 pm
by Unagi
ImLawBoy wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:30 pm I have been told that I'm the meanest dad ever....
OH Really !! Well, you and I will need to have a mean-off. :tjg:

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm
by YellowKing
I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:56 pm
by Smoove_B
Former official at CDC speaks out:
“The CDC got this right with H1N1 and Zika, and produced huge quantities of test kits that went around the country,” Thomas Frieden, the director of the CDC from 2009 to 2017, told us. “I don’t know what went wrong this time.”
Indeed. I wonder what it was that changed after he resigned in January of 2017?
“With more and more testing done at states, these numbers would not be representative of the testing being done nationally,” Nancy Messonnier, the chief CDC official for respiratory diseases, said at the time. “States are reporting results quickly, and in the event of a discrepancy between CDC and state case counts, the state case counts should always be considered more up to date.”

Then, last night, the CDC resumed reporting the number of tests that the agency itself has completed, but did not include testing by state public-health departments or other laboratories. Asked to respond to our own tally and reporting, the CDC directed us to Messonnier’s statement from Tuesday.

Our reporting found that disorder has followed the CDC’s decision not to publish state data. Messonnier’s statement itself implies that, as highly populous states like California increase their own testing, the number of people the CDC reports as having been tested and the actual number of people tested will become ever more divergent.
Unprecedented during a global disease outbreak.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:04 pm
by Zarathud
ImLawBoy wrote: I have been told that I'm the meanest dad ever, so it makes sense.
Have you cancelled ice cream? If not, then you’re not the meanest dad ever. My wife indulges the kids with ice cream, so that’s my go-to threat.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:06 pm
by LordMortis
YellowKing wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.
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Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:16 pm
by Paingod
YellowKing wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.
I believe that Netflix series is called Daybreak. It was very strange and a good bit of fun.
Smoove_B wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 3:56 pmUnprecedented...
A common theme for this administration. I believe if anyone had to pick a single word to describe America's executive branch over the last 4 years, this would be it.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:31 pm
by Dogstar
YellowKing wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.
I know someone has mentioned Daybreak -- but that was definitely a book. Trying to remember what that was!

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:35 pm
by malchior
My client is telling a critical function to go remote in several of their US regions despite little to no cases as a precaution.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:39 pm
by Jaymann
Can you imagine if Obama were still President? He could triple the CDC budget, set up mandatory quarantines, and call out the National Guard, and Republicans would scream that he wasn't doing anything.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:54 pm
by Smoove_B
Jaymann wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:39 pm Can you imagine if Obama were still President?
Every day.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:28 pm
by Enough
Holman wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:49 am
Dogstar wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 11:40 am I think this gentleman and I have different understandings of what the word "contained" means.

https://twitter.com/JStein_WaPo/status/ ... 08644?s=20
The administration is straight-up lying about a public-health threat because they think it will calm the stock market.

Let that sink in.
Rick Santelli suggested infecting everyone with coronavirus, cause you know, it would lessen the economic impact.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:32 pm
by Isgrimnur
Jaymann wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:39 pm Can you imagine if Obama were still President? He could triple the CDC budget, set up mandatory quarantines, and call out the National Guard, and Republicans would scream that he wasn't doing anything.
Half of them would fall into lockstep behind Rand Paul and complain about the need for other cuts.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:55 pm
by Daehawk
LordMortis wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 4:06 pm
YellowKing wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 2:44 pm I once read a novel in which all the adults got a disease that made them go crazy and only the kids were left untouched. This led to a Lord of the Flies type society where kids had to band together to survive the adult zombies.

So I'm just going with that.
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Also the tv show Jeremiah. Which I loved.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 5:58 pm
by Defiant
The Tribe is another show where a virus wipes out the adult population.

I've been rewatching Terry Nation's Survivors. Almost 50 years old, but probably my favorite post-apocalypse-due-to-virus show.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:29 pm
by Holman
https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/ ... 98656?s=20
President Trump says the coronavirus tests are “perfect, just like the letter was perfect.”
The letter?

Presumably he means the phone call (with Ukraine's Zelensky, which he has been calling "perfect" for months). The only "letter" he ever references comes from Kim Jong Un.

Maybe we're at the point where Trump starts alluding to crimes we didn't even know he committed?

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:48 pm
by El Guapo
Holman wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2020 6:29 pm https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/ ... 98656?s=20
President Trump says the coronavirus tests are “perfect, just like the letter was perfect.”
The letter?

Presumably he means the phone call (with Ukraine's Zelensky, which he has been calling "perfect" for months). The only "letter" he ever references comes from Kim Jong Un.

Maybe we're at the point where Trump starts alluding to crimes we didn't even know he committed?
My first reading of this is that he's referring to the call 'transcript'. But it's unclear.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:04 pm
by Daehawk
The only thing perfect anything about Trump is that Trump is perfectly unperfect.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:06 pm
by malchior
https://twitter.com/fox5dc/status/1236061799033769984
2 New Yorkers who attended an AIPAC conference in DC test positive for coronavirus

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:25 pm
by malchior
https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1236069667657089030
Trump: CDC "doctors say how do you know so much about this? Maybe I have a natural ability."

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:28 pm
by $iljanus
Holman wrote:https://twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/ ... 98656?s=20
President Trump says the coronavirus tests are “perfect, just like the letter was perfect.”
The letter?

Presumably he means the phone call (with Ukraine's Zelensky, which he has been calling "perfect" for months). The only "letter" he ever references comes from Kim Jong Un.

Maybe we're at the point where Trump starts alluding to crimes we didn't even know he committed?
When you have so many lies, delusions and scams going on it's hard to keep track of them in your head.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:33 pm
by Smoove_B
https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/ ... 7163463680
Ok, the CDC appearance was the most disturbing one yet from Trump. He literally said experts were telling him to take sick Americans off a cruise ship but he doesn't want to do it because it WILL MAKE THE NUMBERS GO UP and it "wasn't our fault." Holy Jesus.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 7:35 pm
by malchior
Wait let's go one more. He is absolutely one of the most reprehensible people on earth. I'd be ok with the Secret Service going Praetorian Guard on him at this point. He is less than worthless.

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1236053003846615040

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:02 pm
by Holman
He cares about TV ratings and crowd numbers. It's just a scoring competition for this guy.

The claim that he has a "natural ability" in epidemiology exhibits a repeated tell. Trump always claims expertise and insists on his knowledge of things that he has only recently and shallowly been briefed about.

All that's missing is the "Many people don't know...", which always indicates something he just learned that day and will probably forget the next.

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 8:59 pm
by stimpy
I loved that Trump was nodding his head knowingly along to one of the CDC guys that was giving a rather technical reply to a question, then looked at the press and said "Now did you all understand that?"

Re: Carona Virus/Superbug Thread: It's the End of the World as We Know It...

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2020 9:06 pm
by Daehawk