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Paingod wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:18 am Was this a planned synchronization? If so, to what end??

"To what end?"

It's like Freaky Friday! But on Tuesday! And in your butt!

My results seem good. A couple of very small flat polyps removed. They'll be biopsied, but there's no immediate sign that they are dangerous.

Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:24 am I’ll just chime in here. The colonoscopy itself is basically a total ‘non event’.

You don’t feel a thing while you are out, and you don’t wake up feeling anything either.

The mental build up and fear is much bigger.

Now if you have something the colonoscopy finds in time to treat, you just did yourself the biggest favor ever.
And if it’s just a bunch of polyps (that are snipped and removed as they find them) then you have that peace of mind.

You should get it done Daehawk

Man up. For your wife.

This.

Daehawk, I literally didn't feel a thing. They put you out for the procedure, but the sedation is milder than for actual surgery. Woke up feeling rested.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:31 am Im not sure if Im afraid of the procedure or them finding something.

Take it from a cancer survivor. You have two possible scenarios before you go in: you have something, or you don't. If you do, going in is what can save your life. That's good news. If you don't, going in will give you peace of mind. That's also good news.

There's no downside.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:53 am

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:31 am Im not sure if Im afraid of the procedure or them finding something.

Take it from a cancer survivor. You have two possible scenarios before you go in: you have something, or you don't. If you do, going in is what can save your life. That's good news. If you don't, going in will give you peace of mind. That's also good news.

There's no downside.

I don't think it can cost you anything, either. The time I had some polyps removed, the procedure's classification changed from diagnostic to preventive, and they soaked me for $700. That was before the ACA; I don't think they're allowed to surprise you with a huge bill anymore.

Every time Daehawk talks about his reluctance, I'm reminded of my grandmother. Suffered tremendously and died at the age of 71 because she refused to get a colonoscopy in her 60s. The idea that she could have lived another 10+ years if she simply went for a routine procedure is just profoundly sad to me.

The procedure itself is nothing. The worst part of it is the damn prep, but even that is just drinking something that tastes awful and makes you run to the restroom every 3 minutes. But in reviewing Daehawk's posting history, this would qualify as a Saturday night for him.

A job for our resident task rabbit - are No Soliciting signs at the entrances to subdivisions enforceable in South Carolina? From what I can tell, I think they are likely not, but I can't find the relevant law or court case and it seems very state specific.

I ask because people are losing their minds in our neighborhood because we get door-to-door salespeople and while I likely won't say anything, it would be nice to know they are losing their minds for no reason (as I believe).

It's more of a city thing (Ex. Charleston)

Sec. 17-97. - Peddling, charitable soliciting, busking and the selling of palmetto art products unlawful on private property.

It shall be unlawful to engage in soliciting on any property where a sign is posted that states "No Trespassing," "No Peddlers," "No Solicitors, "No Buskers" or words of similar import.

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:59 am It's more of a city thing (Ex. Charleston)

Sec. 17-97. - Peddling, charitable soliciting, busking and the selling of palmetto art products unlawful on private property.

It shall be unlawful to engage in soliciting on any property where a sign is posted that states "No Trespassing," "No Peddlers," "No Solicitors, "No Buskers" or words of similar import.

Thanks - I thought it might be. The key part there is that it has to be posted on the property. I've also seen some court cases where it matters how accessible the property is - like you pretty much need a fence around your entire place and the sign has to be posted on the outer gate. If it's just on your door and anyone can walk up to it, then it's not enforceable.

Now to see if I can find anything for my city.

I looked into it a while back and came to the same conclusion - it has to be personal. Short version, the city/state doing it infringes on the solicitors' free speech and always fails if challenged in couret. The individual, on the other hand, is free to infringe all he wants.

Why wouldn't they be enforceable?

Are no trespassing signs unenforceable?

I realize state agents probably have wide leeway but why would salesmen?

As for whether losing their minds is justified, depends on your perspective and opinion of the "crime" involved I guess.

My property, my speech sounds about right.

Why do we not have a gourmand/foodie/fat people who like to eat thread in OO?

Also if you're not fat it's ok as long as the like to eat part applies.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:08 pm Why wouldn't they be enforceable?

Are no trespassing signs unenforceable?

I realize state agents probably have wide leeway but why would salesmen?

No trespassing signs are enforceable in my area for pastures where livestock are stored (according to the laws I just found) - not for a residential subdivision. Certainly not when it is just a sign posted at the entrance to the subdivision.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:08 pm I looked into it a while back and came to the same conclusion - it has to be personal. Short version, the city/state doing it infringes on the solicitors' free speech and always fails if challenged in couret. The individual, on the other hand, is free to infringe all he wants.

Yep - here's a story from Myrtle Beach where the city lawyer determined their ordinance was likely unconstitutional. I'm amused that they decided to combat it by having the city hand out the signs to anyone who wanted one.

I don't know how it works in the states but a subdivision is not private property.

What's the difference between a no trespassing sign and standing on your front lawn telling people to get off of it?

Again, many people are going to be exceptions under the law, but does a land owner not have the right to determine who's allowed on his property?

What if "get off my lawn" was greeted by "no"?

One can always put up a sign that says "Don't ring the bell, you'll wake up the baby!"

(I've seen one yesterday in my deliveries)

1. Suggesting a business transaction is considered free speech. The government telling people that they're not allowed to suggest a transaction isn't constitutional.

2. Trespassing is generally about intent. Walking up and knocking on a front door to speak to a resident (as long as it serves some legal purpose) is not considered trespassing, as it is considered a legitimate reason for entering private property. It's trespassing if you're going to TP someone's house, tip their cows, or otherwise annoy them. It isn't trespassing if you're, say, delivering a package or fleeing an attacker.

The two combined mean that prohibiting soliciting by a city/county/state/district/whatever is unconstitutional, while prohibiting it by a private organization/individual is not. Many areas write their anti-soliciting laws specifically to prohibit the activity when a private sign is posted (as in the example given above, which also expanded trespassing in that specific scenario.)

/edit - bypassing a physical barrier, of course, is probably a different matter.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:29 pm

What's the difference between a no trespassing sign and standing on your front lawn telling people to get off of it?

One is a sign that tells people not to come onto your property unless they have a legitimate reason. The other is you specifically revoking every legitimate reason they have to be there, short of an overriding law.

No trespassing signs don't override legitimate reasons for being there, such as power line access. Neither does yelling at a linesman.

Is this going to be the universe ending discussion feared and prophecized by the Mix??

Hah, no it is not. I'm simply speculating. I have no experience with trespassing laws.

Short version*: If you are on someone's property on purpose with the intention of doing something illegal, you're trespassing. Visiting isn't illegal, unless the owner tells you you're no longer welcome**.

*with local variations, of course.

**Probably the #1 cause for arrests I've made while working for casinos. Being loud, inappropriate, or obnoxious? "You're no longer welcome here." Don't leave immediately, or cause more trouble? Arrest for trespassing.

Might be some fun if I do go sometime to have my wife draw something on my butt the night before

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:09 pm my wife draw something on my butt the night before

No Trespassing!

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:16 pm Why do we not have a gourmand/foodie/fat people who like to eat thread in OO?

Also if you're not fat it's ok as long as the like to eat part applies.

I pontificate and post pics all the time of what I cook, nobody seems to care.

Holman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:51 am

Paingod wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:18 am Was this a planned synchronization? If so, to what end??

"To what end?"

It's like Freaky Friday! But on Tuesday! And in your butt!

My results seem good. A couple of very small flat polyps removed. They'll be biopsied, but there's no immediate sign that they are dangerous.

Four polyps and some mild diverticulitis.

And lots and lots of pooh gas while waiting to leave.

Z-Corn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:14 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 12:16 pm Why do we not have a gourmand/foodie/fat people who like to eat thread in OO?

Also if you're not fat it's ok as long as the like to eat part applies.

I pontificate and post pics all the time of what I cook, nobody seems to care.

If there was a specific thread, I'd be more likely to visit during the times that my interests involve food, which is only sometimes. But really, it's not a criticism, I was just thinking love of food is a universal thing and I'm surprised the diverse group of people at OO haven't spontaneously created a meeting place for food discussion.

My palette is in need of some serious change, and I am not a foodie and will eat whatever is put in front of me but I need some adventure in my food right now. Also, I need someone else to make it for me, preferably a professional.

Brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:17 pm
Four polyps and some mild diverticulitis.

And lots and lots of pooh gas while waiting to leave.

Any and all support personnel must love their jobs.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:19 pm But really, it's not a criticism, I was just thinking love of food is a universal thing and I'm surprised the diverse group of people at OO haven't spontaneously created a meeting place for food discussion.

So start one!

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:40 am The procedure itself is nothing. The worst part of it is the damn prep, but even that is just drinking something that tastes awful and makes you run to the restroom every 3 minutes. But in reviewing Daehawk's posting history, this would qualify as a Saturday night for him.

Z-Corn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:26 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:19 pm But really, it's not a criticism, I was just thinking love of food is a universal thing and I'm surprised the diverse group of people at OO haven't spontaneously created a meeting place for food discussion.

So start one!

Only if we can have a "Crap Daehawk eats" thread as well.

Brian wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:17 pm

Holman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:51 am

Paingod wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:18 am Was this a planned synchronization? If so, to what end??

"To what end?"

It's like Freaky Friday! But on Tuesday! And in your butt!

My results seem good. A couple of very small flat polyps removed. They'll be biopsied, but there's no immediate sign that they are dangerous.

Four polyps and some mild diverticulitis.

And lots and lots of pooh gas while waiting to leave.

I kept the pictures from mine and when friends visit I leave them under dinner plates before they eat, on their foreheads when they're sleeping if they're crashing at my place, and I have copies I put in their luggage before they leave.

Z-Corn wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:26 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 1:19 pm But really, it's not a criticism, I was just thinking love of food is a universal thing and I'm surprised the diverse group of people at OO haven't spontaneously created a meeting place for food discussion.

So start one!

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I was hoping to read about other peoples' experiences, as I have very little to offer. Since the thread didn't spontaneously exist on it's own, I was surprised.

I guess I could start a thread that demands people telling what they are eating. Or asks politely. Again, I'm just surprised it doesn't exist already.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:33 pmI guess I could start a thread that demands people telling what they are eating. Or asks politely. Again, I'm just surprised it doesn't exist already.

It sort of already exists.

Surprising nobody, it's the booze thread of that vein that has taken off.

Not quite what I had in mind, but it's a start.

Thanks.

For the record the picture of Obama And Bourdain drinking beer and eating noodles is what pushed me enough to notice that I eat the same damn things week after week.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:37 pm For the record the picture of Obama And Bourdain drinking beer and eating noodles is what pushed me enough to notice that I eat the same damn things week after week.

Variety is highly overrated.

No it's not.

coopasonic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:13 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:37 pm For the record the picture of Obama And Bourdain drinking beer and eating noodles is what pushed me enough to notice that I eat the same damn things week after week.

Variety is highly overrated.

+1

coopasonic wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:13 pm Variety is highly overrated.

It is when you really like what you have.

I could eat a chili, burgers, pizza in rotation for ever. Five days on on spinach salads for lunch and I'm dying for something else. I like a spinach salad, but not as a meal again and again and again.

I tolerate oatmeal for breakfast every morning because I need something. If that were eggs, toast, shoestring hashbrowns, and a hunk of meat, I'd be ecstatic to have that for breakfast for the rest of my life.