Shutdown

[stimpy]

That's what runs counter to the popular belief here and thats why I feel the need to post otherwise.
Last I heard, it's my right to do so.

Sure it's your right. But stop trying to pretend it's your duty.

You said duty.......

[hepcat]

It IS a dirty word when some folks try to use it.

[stimpy]

Sure. You have the right to speak your mind (more or less). And you also have the right to get yelled at if you say something dumb. Don't be a snowflake.

Here we go again.......and just who judges what is dumb? The good folks here?
That's okay....I'll take my chances.
Dumb to you is poetry to another.

[hepcat]

Sure. You have the right to speak your mind (more or less). And you also have the right to get yelled at if you say something dumb. Don't be a snowflake.

Here we go again.......and just who judges what is dumb? The good folks here?
That's okay....I'll take my chances.
Dumb to you is poetry to another.

What are you, Vogon?

[Chrisoc13]

That said, I couldn't care less about either of these gaffs. They're both gaffs and that's all. One is a rookie just learning what it means to be under constant scrutiny and media attention, the other is a congresswoman from NY.

[GreenGoo]

Stimpy: Poke, poke, poke
forum: Dude
Stimpy: here we go again. All these mean folks are mean.

[stimpy]

Sure. You have the right to speak your mind (more or less). And you also have the right to get yelled at if you say something dumb. Don't be a snowflake.

Here we go again.......and just who judges what is dumb? The good folks here?
That's okay....I'll take my chances.
Dumb to you is poetry to another.

What are you, Vogon?

We're #3!!
We're #3!!

[stimpy]

Stimpy: Poke, poke, poke
forum: Dude
Stimpy: here we go again. All these mean folks are mean.

You shouldn't let a little poking scare or upset you.
I promise to be gentle.
Be thankful I'm containing it to this forum.
That 12" shrinking "joke" was prime for ridicule.......

[GreenGoo]

I wasn't talking to you.

At some point you're going to have to let it go. It's clear you're not ready yet.

[stimpy]

I wasn't talking to you.

At some point you're going to have to let it go. It's clear you're not ready yet.

Nor are you, kettle.

[GreenGoo]

I wasn't talking to you.

At some point you're going to have to let it go. It's clear you're not ready yet.

Nor are you, kettle.

Introspection.

[LordMortis]

Stimpy: Poke, poke, poke
forum: Dude
Stimpy: here we go again. All these mean folks are mean.

You shouldn't let a little poking scare or upset you.
I promise to be gentle.
Be thankful I'm containing it to this forum.
That 12" shrinking "joke" was prime for ridicule.......

Spoiler:

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5CED9A8F

[NickAragua]

Sure. You have the right to speak your mind (more or less). And you also have the right to get yelled at if you say something dumb. Don't be a snowflake.

Here we go again.......and just who judges what is dumb? The good folks here?
That's okay....I'll take my chances.
Dumb to you is poetry to another.

I have judged that what you say on the matter is dumb. Just as you feel compelled to inform me that the shutdown is "both sides fault", I feel compelled to inform you that your opinion is dumb. Why are you trying to prevent me from expressing my opinion?

[stimpy]

Sure. You have the right to speak your mind (more or less). And you also have the right to get yelled at if you say something dumb. Don't be a snowflake.

Here we go again.......and just who judges what is dumb? The good folks here?
That's okay....I'll take my chances.
Dumb to you is poetry to another.

I have judged that what you say on the matter is dumb. Just as you feel compelled to inform me that the shutdown is "both sides fault", I feel compelled to inform you that your opinion is dumb. Why are you trying to prevent me from expressing my opinion?

I would never and did not try to prevent any opinion, opposing or not.
Just pointed out I'm okay with taking my chances that some may feel that way.

[Alefroth]

And does this mean stimpy faps to Nancy too?

Better than those that seem to fap to Trump......

Finally, a popular opinion.

[noxiousdog]

There's a huge difference between one gaffe (or even a few) and daily gaffes. COVFEFE!

[naednek]

And I think in general, it is (despite pr0ner being clearly wrong in his opinion of Jersey Mike's).

You know, I've tried it 3 times, I've even gotten what friends who love it have suggested, and it just gets a big *meh* from me.

I'm always willing to give it another shot but I'd need a really strong recommendation to do so.

I heard #17 was good...

[Defiant]

https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1094014995430555648

https://twitter.com/Ilhan/status/1093994392833138688

Let’s stand firm: #Not1Dollar for DHS.

This is an outrage. I'm hearing from TSA workers back in Minnesota who STILL haven't received backpay after the shutdown.

All workers affected by the shutdown—including contractors—deserve backpay!

Who's going to tell her that TSA is an agency of the Dept of Homeland Security?

[Isgrimnur]

WaPo

Key lawmakers plan to meet Monday afternoon in a late-stage bid to avert another government shutdown, trying to revive talks that derailed over the weekend amid a dispute on immigration enforcement rules.

House Appropriations Chairwoman Nita M. Lowey (D-N.Y.), Senate Appropriations Chairman Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), Rep. Kay Granger (R-Tex.) and Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.) will attend the meeting, two congressional aides said. The lawmakers lead a bipartisan committee charged with striking a border security deal to stave off a government shutdown at week’s end.

White House officials and congressional aides are watching the outcome of the afternoon meeting closely, believing that it will be a pivotal juncture and determine whether the talks can be rescued.

Lawmakers had hoped to reach an agreement by midday Monday, a timeline they thought was sufficient to win House and Senate approval this week. But talks broke down over the weekend, leading to acrimonious finger-pointing and angry outbursts from President Trump.

To avert a partial shutdown set to begin Saturday, the House and Senate must pass identical spending bills that Trump would then need to sign into law.

[Smoove_B]

I hope people are ready, because my own guess is that there's a 1% chance of this avoiding another shutdown.

[Alefroth]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 9657542656

The Democrats do not want us to detain, or send back, criminal aliens! This is a brand new demand. Crazy!

Its like he doesn't understand how negotiations work.

[pr0ner]

Apparently Congress has a deal to fund the government. It's gonna be all on Trump soon.

[Holman]

I can't recall the source, but didn't I read the other day that Air Traffic Controllers are planning a nationwide sick-out on Day One of a new shutdown?

[hepcat]

If the spacing guild refuses to navigate, the emperor will be the one to feel the heat.

[GreenGoo]

Apparently Congress has a deal to fund the government. It's gonna be all on Trump soon.

Noticed BBC noting an agreement in principle. Watching drumpf torpedo it, his base loving it, and the rest of the GOP rolling their eyes should be a lot of fun for spectators, not so much actual government employees.

[Holman]

If the spacing guild refuses to navigate, the emperor will be the one to feel the heat.

"The Spice Must Flow! SAD!"

[Zarathud]

Good thing America elected a "deal-making" President whose ability to negotiate isn't bigger than his ego or his reputation.

/sarcasm

What a maroon, as the rabbit says.

[Kraken]

Apparently Congress has a deal to fund the government. It's gonna be all on Trump soon.

Noticed BBC noting an agreement in principle. Watching drumpf torpedo it, his base loving it, and the rest of the GOP rolling their eyes should be a lot of fun for spectators, not so much actual government employees.

I'm reading that Trump will sign whatever Congress sends him in order to avoid another spanking like he took over the shutdown. Then he will immediately steal money that was appropriated, but not yet spent, for other purposes (emergency relief for CA and PR, but not TX, is being mentioned, as is the army's construction budget). The WH thinks that's more likely to survive a court challenge than the state of emergency route. By the time it's overturned some construction will have begun, whereupon Trump can point to it and tell his followers that he built their wall. They are easily conned by theatrics.

[Isgrimnur]

WaPo

The deal includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of fences along the border, compared with $5.7 billion Trump had sought for more than 200 miles of walls. The deal omits a strict new cap Democrats had sought on immigrants detained within the United States — as opposed to at the border. At the same time, it limits overall levels of detention beds maintained by the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, although GOP aides said ICE would have enough money and flexibility to maintain its current detention levels and add more when needed.
...
White House officials were reviewing the terms of the deal, and Shelby said he was hopeful Trump would be supportive. But details of the compromise disclosed late Monday quickly came under fire from conservatives, raising the prospect of a backlash from the right that could ultimately render it unacceptable to Trump.

Fox News host Sean Hannity, a Trump confidant, immediately called the shutdown deal a “garbage compromise.”

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), a leader of the conservative House Freedom Caucus who talks regularly with Trump, said that it fails to address serious threats.

[El Guapo]

So the deal limits the number of beds available to ICE, but doesn't lower the cap on the number of people detained?

[Skinypupy]

I'm reading that Trump will sign whatever Congress sends him in order to avoid another spanking like he took over the shutdown. Then he will immediately steal money that was appropriated, but not yet spent, for other purposes (emergency relief for CA and PR, but not TX, is being mentioned, as is the army's construction budget). The WH thinks that's more likely to survive a court challenge than the state of emergency route. By the time it's overturned some construction will have begun, whereupon Trump can point to it and tell his followers that he built their wall. They are easily conned by theatrics.

More details on that lovely plan.

The White House is firming up plans to redirect unspent federal dollars as a way of funding President Donald Trump’s border wall without taking the dramatic step of invoking a national emergency.

Done by executive order, this plan would allow the White House to shift money from different budgetary accounts without congressional approval, circumventing Democrats who refuse to give Trump anything like the $5.7 billion he has demanded. Nor would it require a controversial emergency declaration.

The emerging consensus among acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney and top budget officials is to shift money from two Army Corps of Engineers’ flood control projects in Northern California, as well as from disaster relief funds intended for California and Puerto Rico. The plan will also tap unspent Department of Defense funds for military construction, like family housing or infrastructure for military bases, according to three sources familiar with the negotiations.

[Jaymann]

I hope he tries that. It will get bogged down in legal battles, and the Dems can show pictures of half baked construction sites interposed with non-working federal workers to document his failure in 2020.

[El Guapo]

I suspect they are right that avoiding the label "declaration of emergency" will help this play better politically. Although it still invites a lawsuit and negative coverage attached to that lawsuit, and may well reduce the chance that the move ultimately holds up in court.

[hepcat]

He's now trying to switch the slogan from "Build the wall" to "Finish the wall". They were even selling signs and t-shirts with that slogan emblazoned on them at his klan rally last night in El Paso.

Optics. It's the only science he believes in.

[Smoove_B]

Optics. It's the only science he believes in.

Why shouldn't he? His business magnate facade allowed him to make money off selling steaks, bottled water, education and real estate in NYC. Why should a wall be any different?

EDIT: Wow. I didn't know he also sold Trump-brand deodorant, mattresses, eyeglasses, light fixtures, coffee and perfume.

[El Guapo]

He's now trying to switch the slogan from "Build the wall" to "Finish the wall". They were even selling signs and t-shirts with that slogan emblazoned on them at his klan rally last night in El Paso.

Optics. It's the only science he believes in.

Trump generally is an idiot, but if he has one elite-level skill that he's developed, it's branding and media dynamics.

[LawBeefaroni]

Optics. It's the only science he believes in.

Why shouldn't he? His business magnate facade allowed him to make money off selling steaks, bottled water, education and real estate in NYC. Why should a wall be any different?

EDIT: Wow. I didn't know he also sold Trump-brand deodorant, mattresses, eyeglasses, light fixtures, coffee and perfume.

Don't forget the vodka. The prescient vodka.

[hepcat]

Optics. It's the only science he believes in.

Why shouldn't he? His business magnate facade allowed him to make money off selling steaks,

Simply mentioning Trump steaks makes me remember the hilarious Darth Trump video, then I have to go watch it, and I end up giggling like an idiot for 20 minutes.

[Isgrimnur]

This is what happens when you put all your points into Charisma.

[GreenGoo]

This is what happens when you put all your points into Charisma.

Especially when you can't roll higher than a 5 in the first place.