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This is my thought process but my thought process is out of ignorance.YellowKing wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:57 pm ...it doesn't just make it non-viable. If that was the case, you wouldn't have any cases in Florida which is in the high 80s right now.
Things I've heard:Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:51 pm So how long does it last? Like how long from fever or first symptom to feeling much better? And how long from when you get it and dont even know it can you transmit it after you're feeling fine?
Hard to say. I don't really think you can separate the two. If we'd have done nothing, we'd basically be in the same economic situation due to all the deaths.MHS wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:02 pm
I don't think we can even imagine how bad it will be. Is it possible that, long-term, the economic impact kills more people than the virus? That's my biggest fear.
I only put on pants because I had to take the recycling bin to the curb.Kraken wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:15 pm Well, today's KPI is 1. That is, it's been one day since Kraken wore his big-boy pants.
You can't set up an electronic transfer from one bank to the other?Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Well this is worrying. One of my banks is closing its lobby to visitors except by appointment. Not sure how Ill make my mortgage deposit. See my money goes into one bank. I then go there in person(not the one closing the lobby) and cash a check for cash. Thats my mortgage payment. I then go to the other bank and go inside to deposit it. I only have a couple days before its due to do this each month. I cant use the drive through anywhere because my window doesn't work. I have to actually go in. Getting that cash and setting up and appointment in time to cover the mortgage withdrawal may get tough.
And now Gmail is having problems..argh.
I have no idea. Ive never done that. Ive never done any of this. My wife always handled all financial dealings. I taught myself all I could last year after months and months of having to do everything. I couldn't even write a check without looking online. To me its just something I do to know its in there on time if I do it myself. Also the not knowing how or anything about it is off putting.MHS wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pmYou can't set up an electronic transfer from one bank to the other?Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Well this is worrying. One of my banks is closing its lobby to visitors except by appointment. Not sure how Ill make my mortgage deposit. See my money goes into one bank. I then go there in person(not the one closing the lobby) and cash a check for cash. Thats my mortgage payment. I then go to the other bank and go inside to deposit it. I only have a couple days before its due to do this each month. I cant use the drive through anywhere because my window doesn't work. I have to actually go in. Getting that cash and setting up and appointment in time to cover the mortgage withdrawal may get tough.
And now Gmail is having problems..argh.
Third friend is now potentially coming down with it. Worse a fourth friend had 7 from a different branch of his financial services company all test positive. It is all over the place in NJ. These folks are in entirely different parts of the state.malchior wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:18 pm Just found out I have two direct friends who likely have the bug. One is a day care worker. She came down with symptoms yesterday. She is not eligible for testing. She is running the super high temperature, dry cough, etc.
The other is a cop for an inter-state agency. He was confirmed exposed at work and is running a fever of about 105 today. Ugly as hell. He is negative for flu and awaiting the Covid-19 test but everyone is pretty certain it'll be Covid-19.
Just call your banks. If they are worth anything, they'll help you arrange it.Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:52 pmI have no idea. Ive never done that. Ive never done any of this. My wife always handled all financial dealings. I taught myself all I could last year after months and months of having to do everything. I couldn't even write a check without looking online. To me its just something I do to know its in there on time if I do it myself. Also the not knowing how or anything about it is off putting.MHS wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pmYou can't set up an electronic transfer from one bank to the other?Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Well this is worrying. One of my banks is closing its lobby to visitors except by appointment. Not sure how Ill make my mortgage deposit. See my money goes into one bank. I then go there in person(not the one closing the lobby) and cash a check for cash. Thats my mortgage payment. I then go to the other bank and go inside to deposit it. I only have a couple days before its due to do this each month. I cant use the drive through anywhere because my window doesn't work. I have to actually go in. Getting that cash and setting up and appointment in time to cover the mortgage withdrawal may get tough.
And now Gmail is having problems..argh.
Infectious disease experts define "older adults" as anyone age 60 and up, so people in that age group should be cautious.
It's possible to contract the virus at a younger age — it's just more dangerous in older adults because the immune system weakens with age, said Dr. Samir Sinha, director of Geriatrics for the Sinai Health System and the University Health Network in Toronto.
People over the age of 80 may want to exercise even more caution. A report published in the medical journal JAMA that examined more than 72,000 Chinese coronavirus patients found that the overall fatality rate was 2.3%. But in adults over 80, the fatality rate rose to 15%.
Thank you for the clarification. I was sweating there for a moment. And no.....I don't have a fever.....lol.stessier wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:42 pmI was wrong - Fever (as of Feb 20) was in 87% of cases. Page 12stimpy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:34 pmWell that's........disturbing.stessier wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:26 pmAh - still no. I think the WHO said about 35% get a fever.stimpy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:22 pmUgh........typing mistake. Meant to write fever but just saw that he does have a fever, so.....nevermind.....stessier wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:20 pmNo. This isn't the flu. The flu is a separate disease.stimpy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:15 pmNot to add to misinformation, but isn't having a flu one of the necessary symptoms?malchior wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:18 pm Just found out I have two direct friends who likely have the bug. One is a day care worker. She came down with symptoms yesterday. She is not eligible for testing. She is running the super high temperature, dry cough, etc.
The other is a cop for an inter-state agency. He was confirmed exposed at work and is running a fever of about 105 today. Ugly as hell. He is negative for flu and awaiting the Covid-19 test but everyone is pretty certain it'll be Covid-19.
It's one of the factors that work is pushing as being a necessary symptom.
I sent a girl home yesterday who was hacking up a storm. She also had a fever. I've let a few people stay at work with minor, but steady, coughs but no fever.
The signs, symptoms, disease progression and severity
Symptoms of COVID-19 are non-specific and the disease presentation can range from no
symptoms (asymptomatic) to severe pneumonia and death. As of 20 February 2020 and
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based on 55924 laboratory confirmed cases, typical signs and symptoms include: fever
(87.9%), dry cough (67.7%), fatigue (38.1%), sputum production (33.4%), shortness of breath
(18.6%), sore throat (13.9%), headache (13.6%), myalgia or arthralgia (14.8%), chills (11.4%),
nausea or vomiting (5.0%), nasal congestion (4.8%), diarrhea (3.7%), and hemoptysis (0.9%),
and conjunctival congestion (0.8%).
People with COVID-19 generally develop signs and symptoms, including mild respiratory
symptoms and fever, on an average of 5-6 days after infection (mean incubation period 5-6
days, range 1-14 days).
I guess they aren't definite about it because I just found this that points to the Spanish Influenza possibly having come from China. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ce-health/ They also mention Boston, and Kansas.Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:33 pmActually, it originated on a naval base in Boston. Otherwise, you're right: the Spanish didn't censor the news because they weren't wrapped up in the war, and so it became Spanish flu.em2nought wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:09 pmI don't get it?mori wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:52 pm Must be fallout from the Spanish-American War because the Spanish flu was more than a decade coming.
Interesting thing I didn't know until yesterday was that the Spanish Flu was the "Spanish" flu because Spain was the first to report on it. It originated in Kansas, and wasn't report on here because of the war effort.
Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:48 pm A friend’s almost two year old came down with a fever and a dry cough today. He tested negative for flu and strep, but they won’t test him for the virus. I had dinner with them on Saturday.
Yeah, I just learned this week that it's disputed. I'd always heard Boston.em2nought wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:34 pmI guess they aren't definite about it because I just found this that points to the Spanish Influenza possibly having come from China. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news ... ce-health/ They also mention Boston, and Kansas.Kraken wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:33 pmActually, it originated on a naval base in Boston. Otherwise, you're right: the Spanish didn't censor the news because they weren't wrapped up in the war, and so it became Spanish flu.em2nought wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 8:09 pmI don't get it?mori wrote: Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:52 pm Must be fallout from the Spanish-American War because the Spanish flu was more than a decade coming.
Interesting thing I didn't know until yesterday was that the Spanish Flu was the "Spanish" flu because Spain was the first to report on it. It originated in Kansas, and wasn't report on here because of the war effort.
Forbes.com wrote:An old malaria and autoimmune drug is showing promise as a potential treatment for COVID-19 – although health officials are urging caution until clinical trials are done.
The drug, hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil, was reported March 9 in Clinical Infectious Diseases journal to be effective at killing the virus in laboratory experiments. In a letter in Cell Discovery Wednesday, the study’s authors, mainly from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, wrote, “(W)e predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease.”
Repurposing established drugs like Plaquenil — which was approved in 1955 — may be a quick, safe and economical way to attack emerging illnesses. In this vein, specialists have adapted long-standing leprosy and alcoholism drugs, for example, for patients suffering another global epidemic, Lyme disease.
As with the tick-borne illness, COVID physician-researchers have now taken laboratory findings – in which the organism was killed or reduced in petri dishes treated with selected drugs – and advanced to the next step: Patient treatment.
Rapid resolution
While unpublished yet, the first patient trial of Plaquenil for COVID, conducted in Marseilles, France, has reported encouraging early results. The trial, announced in a video on Monday, was led by Didier Raoult, a physician-scientist who has published on microbes for several decades.
According to a draft article by Raoult’s team and obtained by me, 36 patients were enrolled in the trial, including 16 infected controls and 20 treated patients. The test group was given 600 mg daily of Plaquenil, which is on the WHO’s List of Essential Medicines and has been used for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
At day three, the study reported, 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the COVID virus.
By day six, 70 percent tested negative.
As intriguing, of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin did even better, the team reported. Five of the six, or 83 percent, tested negative at day three. All six, 100 percent, tested negative at day six.
Meantime, the control patients largely stayed sick longer. On days three and six, just 6.3 percent and 12.5 percent, respectively, tested negative. The research paper did not include how they were alternatively treated.
Raoult’s findings prompted the French Minister of Health Tuesday to approve expanded treatment trials, with one commencing in Lille, according to France 3, a public television station.
from https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927033 (Medscape account needed):Anonymous Bosch wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:27 pm Science Works To Use Old, Cheap Drugs To Attack Coronavirus – It Might Just Work
Forbes.com wrote:An old malaria and autoimmune drug is showing promise as a potential treatment for COVID-19 – although health officials are urging caution until clinical trials are done.
The drug, hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil, was reported March 9 in Clinical Infectious Diseases journal to be effective at killing the virus in laboratory experiments. In a letter in Cell Discovery Wednesday, the study’s authors, mainly from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, wrote, “(W)e predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease.”
Repurposing established drugs like Plaquenil — which was approved in 1955 — may be a quick, safe and economical way to attack emerging illnesses. In this vein, specialists have adapted long-standing leprosy and alcoholism drugs, for example, for patients suffering another global epidemic, Lyme disease.
As with the tick-borne illness, COVID physician-researchers have now taken laboratory findings – in which the organism was killed or reduced in petri dishes treated with selected drugs – and advanced to the next step: Patient treatment.
Rapid resolution
While unpublished yet, the first patient trial of Plaquenil for COVID, conducted in Marseilles, France, has reported encouraging early results. The trial, announced in a video on Monday, was led by Didier Raoult, a physician-scientist who has published on microbes for several decades.
According to a draft article by Raoult’s team and obtained by me, 36 patients were enrolled in the trial, including 16 infected controls and 20 treated patients. The test group was given 600 mg daily of Plaquenil, which is on the WHO’s List of Essential Medicines and has been used for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
At day three, the study reported, 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the COVID virus.
By day six, 70 percent tested negative.
As intriguing, of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin did even better, the team reported. Five of the six, or 83 percent, tested negative at day three. All six, 100 percent, tested negative at day six.
Meantime, the control patients largely stayed sick longer. On days three and six, just 6.3 percent and 12.5 percent, respectively, tested negative. The research paper did not include how they were alternatively treated.
Raoult’s findings prompted the French Minister of Health Tuesday to approve expanded treatment trials, with one commencing in Lille, according to France 3, a public television station.
Professor Gilles Pialoux, an infectious disease specialist at Tenon Hospital, was cautious in his response. He told Medscape's French Edition: "The idea is interesting but we need large, randomised, controlled trials. We should not communicate this kind of information on YouTube, it is not meaningful.
"Don’t forget, this compound has not been included in Inserm’s trial because there are more interesting avenues, such as remdesivir or Kaletra [lopinavir/ritonavir]. We must be careful not to repeat the story with cyclosporin in HIV."
Christian Perronne, head of infectious diseases, University Hospital Raymond Poincaré, Garches, Paris, was more enthusiastic.
"I really believe in hydroxychloroquine. It is a drug I find rather fascinating, that has been used for decades. There have been positive results in an in vitro study and a preliminary Chinese study in 100 patients which showed that hydroxychloroquine reduced the viral load, the symptoms lasted for less time, and they are not as severe. This could reduce the number of carriers, which I find interesting from an epidemiological perspective.
"I think from an ethical point of view, we should suggest it to all patients with severe disease who are hospitalised, under surveillance and on short treatment, paying attention to drug interactions, especially with drugs that prolong the QT interval. Afterwards, in terms of adverse effects, at increased doses, it is possible that patients will have pain or fever, but it seems that the treatment is effective at lower doses, according to the Chinese data. In any case, the adverse effects of this compound are not dangerous."
I've been wondering about how badly a lot of businesses will be permanently hurt by this shut down. Not by going out of business, that's a separate thing. What I mean is how many sports fans out there, die hard sports fans, will sort of fall out of the habit of watching sports? Then, one day when sports are back on, will they see the seasons starting up and think 'meh, I got other things to do'?Jaymann wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:03 pm I'm used to hibernating in the man cave - no big deal. What makes it painful is there are no mindless sports to watch in the background.
Some things to look into.Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:52 pmI have no idea. Ive never done that. Ive never done any of this. My wife always handled all financial dealings. I taught myself all I could last year after months and months of having to do everything. I couldn't even write a check without looking online. To me its just something I do to know its in there on time if I do it myself. Also the not knowing how or anything about it is off putting.MHS wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pmYou can't set up an electronic transfer from one bank to the other?Daehawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:48 pm Well this is worrying. One of my banks is closing its lobby to visitors except by appointment. Not sure how Ill make my mortgage deposit. See my money goes into one bank. I then go there in person(not the one closing the lobby) and cash a check for cash. Thats my mortgage payment. I then go to the other bank and go inside to deposit it. I only have a couple days before its due to do this each month. I cant use the drive through anywhere because my window doesn't work. I have to actually go in. Getting that cash and setting up and appointment in time to cover the mortgage withdrawal may get tough.
And now Gmail is having problems..argh.
This could be good news for our family since our daughter is already on Plaquenil for lupus. Seems like the good could outweigh the bad of her compromised immune system, maybe.Anonymous Bosch wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:27 pm Science Works To Use Old, Cheap Drugs To Attack Coronavirus – It Might Just Work
Forbes.com wrote:An old malaria and autoimmune drug is showing promise as a potential treatment for COVID-19 – although health officials are urging caution until clinical trials are done.
The drug, hydroxychloroquine, sold under the brand name Plaquenil, was reported March 9 in Clinical Infectious Diseases journal to be effective at killing the virus in laboratory experiments. In a letter in Cell Discovery Wednesday, the study’s authors, mainly from the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Wuhan, wrote, “(W)e predict that the drug has a good potential to combat the disease.”
Repurposing established drugs like Plaquenil — which was approved in 1955 — may be a quick, safe and economical way to attack emerging illnesses. In this vein, specialists have adapted long-standing leprosy and alcoholism drugs, for example, for patients suffering another global epidemic, Lyme disease.
As with the tick-borne illness, COVID physician-researchers have now taken laboratory findings – in which the organism was killed or reduced in petri dishes treated with selected drugs – and advanced to the next step: Patient treatment.
Rapid resolution
While unpublished yet, the first patient trial of Plaquenil for COVID, conducted in Marseilles, France, has reported encouraging early results. The trial, announced in a video on Monday, was led by Didier Raoult, a physician-scientist who has published on microbes for several decades.
According to a draft article by Raoult’s team and obtained by me, 36 patients were enrolled in the trial, including 16 infected controls and 20 treated patients. The test group was given 600 mg daily of Plaquenil, which is on the WHO’s List of Essential Medicines and has been used for malaria, rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.
At day three, the study reported, 50 percent of the treated group turned from positive to negative for the COVID virus.
By day six, 70 percent tested negative.
As intriguing, of the 20 test patients, six who were treated with both Plaquenil and the antibiotic azithromycin did even better, the team reported. Five of the six, or 83 percent, tested negative at day three. All six, 100 percent, tested negative at day six.
Meantime, the control patients largely stayed sick longer. On days three and six, just 6.3 percent and 12.5 percent, respectively, tested negative. The research paper did not include how they were alternatively treated.
Raoult’s findings prompted the French Minister of Health Tuesday to approve expanded treatment trials, with one commencing in Lille, according to France 3, a public television station.
There is no question: This is going to change our society (local, national, and global), and it is going to change our culture. We will recover, and there will come a day when this is just a story about 'back then', but we won't be the same us as we were in 2019.gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:55 pmI've been wondering about how badly a lot of businesses will be permanently hurt by this shut down. Not by going out of business, that's a separate thing. What I mean is how many sports fans out there, die hard sports fans, will sort of fall out of the habit of watching sports? Then, one day when sports are back on, will they see the seasons starting up and think 'meh, I got other things to do'?Jaymann wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:03 pm I'm used to hibernating in the man cave - no big deal. What makes it painful is there are no mindless sports to watch in the background.
I'm a creature of habit. Once a habit is broken it's hard to get me back into it. I really enjoyed that show some years back, Pushing Daisies. Then there was a strike and tv shows shut down. When it came back I never watched it because by then the time I had set aside for that show was taken up by something else.
For one thing, employers will have to acknowledge how many of their people can work from home, and that it's best for all concerned if they do. A lot of new WFH people will never have to go back in, and that's going to do wonders for traffic congestion. Let's put it this way: in normal traffic, it takes 30-40 min to drive from my town into the city; at rush hour that approaches 60 min. Yesterday's traffic report said "the Expressway is 12 minutes from the split to downtown." If we can permanently take 20% of the cars off the road, we can see times like that routinely. And companies will find that they don't need to rent all of that expensive office space...which could cause an instant glut...and so on.Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:17 pmThere is no question: This is going to change our society (local, national, and global), and it is going to change our culture. We will recover, and there will come a day when this is just a story about 'back then', but we won't be the same us as we were in 2019.gameoverman wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:55 pmI've been wondering about how badly a lot of businesses will be permanently hurt by this shut down. Not by going out of business, that's a separate thing. What I mean is how many sports fans out there, die hard sports fans, will sort of fall out of the habit of watching sports? Then, one day when sports are back on, will they see the seasons starting up and think 'meh, I got other things to do'?Jaymann wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 9:03 pm I'm used to hibernating in the man cave - no big deal. What makes it painful is there are no mindless sports to watch in the background.
I'm a creature of habit. Once a habit is broken it's hard to get me back into it. I really enjoyed that show some years back, Pushing Daisies. Then there was a strike and tv shows shut down. When it came back I never watched it because by then the time I had set aside for that show was taken up by something else.
Perhaps this may help: Grocery Stores are Hiring to Cope with Demand During Coronavirus: Vacancies at Amazon, Albertsons, KrogerBlackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:45 pm The thing that really terrifies me about all of this is the money. In two months my oldest graduates high school and I lose about a 17% of my income. He's not yet employable, and my not be due to disability (which won't help for years.) In addition, Michelle was out of work for almost six months. She really put in an effort to find something, but nobody would offer her anything. She just went back to work as of yesterday. It's at a state park in a position that is reliant on visitors, and there is every possibility that she will find herself laid off as a result, and she won't be eligible for unemployment. During the time she was out of work we paid for food and expenses largely by charging them - we didn't have a choice if we wanted to eat - with the intent that our tax refund (usually ~$7,000) would show up as normal to let us pay the bulk off. We found out a couple of weeks ago that that isn't happening, either, and we plan on paying it off with careful budgeting.
Short version: If Michelle gets laid off, we'll be paying all of the expenses of a family of four out of ~$1200 per month, this time without a buffer of space on the credit card to make up the difference. That isn't sustainable. At all.
I think the worst thing is that a month ago, this was a non-issue. Then we got the news about the taxes and it became a source of stress, but only for a little while until I came up with a new plan. It would take a little while, but it would solve the problem and still give us breathing room. I had a plan, Michelle finally had a job, and I could finally start to relax and take a breath. Then the phrase 'lock down' started being bandied about. Now my stress and anxiety levels are through the roof. I am smacking myself upside the head for some of the financial decisions I made because I thought things were solved. This has the potential to put us in a really, really disastrous spot.Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:45 pm The thing that really terrifies me about all of this is the money. In two months my oldest graduates high school and I lose about a 17% of my income. He's not yet employable, and my not be due to disability (which won't help for years.) In addition, Michelle was out of work for almost six months. She really put in an effort to find something, but nobody would offer her anything. She just went back to work as of yesterday. It's at a state park in a position that is reliant on visitors, and there is every possibility that she will find herself laid off as a result, and she won't be eligible for unemployment. During the time she was out of work we paid for food and expenses largely by charging them - we didn't have a choice if we wanted to eat - with the intent that our tax refund (usually ~$7,000) would show up as normal to let us pay the bulk off. We found out a couple of weeks ago that that isn't happening, either, and we plan on paying it off with careful budgeting.
Short version: If Michelle gets laid off, we'll be paying all of the expenses of a family of four out of ~$1200 per month, this time without a buffer of space on the credit card to make up the difference. That isn't sustainable. At all.
I forget whether you have a smart phone or not by now? It's amazing how much easier the banking apps make things. I was resistant at first too, but using them has been a huge time savings for me and relatively easy. I used to have to physically visit at least five different banking institutions.Daehawk wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:30 am Thanks all and Punisher. I will look into the bank transfer this year. It comes down to how long it takes to transfer. I set it up this way because I simply did not trust the mortgage place. Had problems with them. reading online it seems all these places plain suck. Ill also try to check the info on how to do it online.
I'd line up for a drive-by vaccination if that was the fastest option.LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:13 pmCan vaccines be administered via repurposed tranquilizer darts?Smoove_B wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:09 pm Make no mistake, when the vaccine for this is developed, the policy for those that refuse is not going to be as lenient as what they've collectively come to enjoy.
Looks like they heard me. I just got called into a meeting with the other folks in Corporate and this is exactly what they're doing.Paingod wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 6:41 amI'm wishing my employer would close their doors except to emergency cases. Maybe keep 1 or 2 technicians here, 1 doctor, and 1 optician. Put a note on the door saying "Emergency cases only, please" - we could still schedule people who needed post-operation care and people who have emergency needs without exposing a hundred others each day.
Bank-to-bank electronic transfers are effectively instantaneous. Online payments to major companies, like credit card issuers, are same-day or next-day. If your bank has to mail a check to a smaller company like a utility or insurance carrier, that can take 3-4 days, same as any mailed payment. Setting up online billpay is straightforward, and once it's set up it only takes seconds to order a payment. You can set them up to pay automatically every month, if you want (about half of our bills are paid this way).Daehawk wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:30 am Thanks all and Punisher. I will look into the bank transfer this year. It comes down to how long it takes to transfer. I set it up this way because I simply did not trust the mortgage place. Had problems with them. reading online it seems all these places plain suck. Ill also try to check the info on how to do it online.