Octopus Overlords

em2nought wrote:

RunningMn9 wrote:It is entertaining to have virtually everything that the National Review is writing now, hell bent on savaging Trump.

Only one writer in the entire @$$^ world has published the truth, guess he'll never work in his industry again. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ns-support

Rip wrote:https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/tru ... ing-china/

http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-pa ... ly-2127095

Here are some facts lost in the heat of primary season. Excluding oil, the United States actually has a trade surplus in manufactured goods (you read that right) with the 20 countries with which it has trade agreements (although that does not include China). Over all, the United States enjoys an annual trade surplus in services, driven by financial services and intellectual-property licensing, of more than $200 billion.

hepcat wrote:

Rip wrote:https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/tru ... ing-china/

http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-pa ... ly-2127095

Whhheeeee

Here are some facts lost in the heat of primary season. Excluding oil, the United States actually has a trade surplus in manufactured goods (you read that right) with the 20 countries with which it has trade agreements (although that does not include China). Over all, the United States enjoys an annual trade surplus in services, driven by financial services and intellectual-property licensing, of more than $200 billion.

driven by financial services and intellectual-property licensing

Excluding oil, the United States actually has a trade surplus in manufactured goods

hepcat wrote:

Rip wrote:https://theintercept.com/2015/11/11/tru ... ing-china/

http://www.ibtimes.com/trans-pacific-pa ... ly-2127095

Whhheeeee

Here are some facts lost in the heat of primary season. Excluding oil, the United States actually has a trade surplus in manufactured goods (you read that right) with the 20 countries with which it has trade agreements (although that does not include China). Over all, the United States enjoys an annual trade surplus in services, driven by financial services and intellectual-property licensing, of more than $200 billion.

More than 20 percent of American children today live in poverty. Our educational system, once the envy of the world, now ranks in the bottom half of much of the developed world. The tax system rewards companies that exploit loopholes, infrastructure is crumbling and training programs lack the kind of apprenticeship and credentialing opportunities that Germany and other major economies offer.

hepcat wrote:

Excluding oil, the United States actually has a trade surplus in manufactured goods

For the uneducated Trump voters, that means factory made items.

hepcat wrote:Why am I not surprised that instead of realizing you're wrong, you simply make up some bullshit quantifier?

Isgrimnur wrote:

Smoove_B wrote:

Isgrimnur wrote:Sexism and racism will always be things, but they are not quite as entrenched in society as a given as they once were.

Yeah, it's not like in the 1950s when states like Georgia were trying to pass religious liberty laws. Did I say 1950s? Because I meant today.

In the 1950s, this paragraph doesn't get written:

Similar bills in states like Indiana and Arkansas sparked storms of criticism last year, forcing many lawmakers to retreat from the provisions.

Salesforce C.E.O. Marc Benioff is playing hardball with Georgia governor Nathan Deal over the state’s pending Religious Freedom Bill. Passed by the Georgia state legislature on Wednesday night, the legislation would effectively allow faith-based organizations—which are broadly defined in the bill—to discriminate based on a “sincerely held religious belief” pertaining to marriage. And Benioff, who is known in Silicon Valley for his philanthropy, is threatening to make the decision economically damaging for Deal if he signs it into law.
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Last month Benioff asked Deal to veto the bill, saying he would take his business out of the state if the law passed (Salesforce currently has a conference scheduled in Atlanta, and Benioff’s company employs 16,000 people). He posed a question to his followers on Twitter last month: Should Salesforce divest from Georgia if the bill is signed into law? Eighty percent of his followers said yes. On Friday, the C.E.O. tweeted, “The economy of Georgia is now in the hands of @GovernorDeal as he considers an anti-gay law.”

Now that the bill has passed through Georgia’s state legislature, Benioff is doubling down. Salesforce published a statement on Thursday dropping the hammer. “If HB 757 is not vetoed and instead becomes law, Salesforce will have to reduce investments in Georgia, including moving the Salesforce Connections conference to a state that provides a more welcoming environment for the LGBTQ community,” the company said. Benioff is raising the stakes in his fight for gay rights, and not for the first time. Last year, he tried to get Indiana to veto a similar bill. The legislation passed anyway, though Benioff and others were able to pressure the state to modify the law afterward.

Zarathud wrote:Even if tax cuts and loopholes were the source of our economic problems, they were added by a Republican Congress under President Bush and there is ZERO chance that a President Trump would raise taxes. Instead, the Republican platform is consistently MORE tax cuts.

Holman wrote:

Zarathud wrote:Even if tax cuts and loopholes were the source of our economic problems, they were added by a Republican Congress under President Bush and there is ZERO chance that a President Trump would raise taxes. Instead, the Republican platform is consistently MORE tax cuts.

Trump himself has proposed huge tax cuts. He's like the rest of them. It's the same trickle-down voodoo bullshit we've been getting since Reagan.

Holman wrote:

Zarathud wrote:Even if tax cuts and loopholes were the source of our economic problems, they were added by a Republican Congress under President Bush and there is ZERO chance that a President Trump would raise taxes. Instead, the Republican platform is consistently MORE tax cuts.

Trump himself has proposed huge tax cuts. He's like the rest of them. It's the same trickle-down voodoo bullshit we've been getting since Reagan.

em2nought wrote:
How else with you entice me to hire an "American" worker along with all his or her baggage they bring to the job? Most of them probably need to attend a reeducation camp on worth ethic before they'd even be of any use.

gbasden wrote:

em2nought wrote:
How else with you entice me to hire an "American" worker along with all his or her baggage they bring to the job? Most of them probably need to attend a reeducation camp on worth ethic before they'd even be of any use.

Meaning you couldn't literally work them to death as if they were in a 3rd world country? That attitude is disgusting.

em2nought wrote:

gbasden wrote:

em2nought wrote:
How else with you entice me to hire an "American" worker along with all his or her baggage they bring to the job? Most of them probably need to attend a reeducation camp on worth ethic before they'd even be of any use.

Meaning you couldn't literally work them to death as if they were in a 3rd world country? That attitude is disgusting.

Did I type that I was planning to work people to death? Stop putting your words down as if they were my thoughts, I'm pretty sick of it as the premier tactic of the left.

Just last week, a guy came begging me for money. Said churches had told him no, and said he was willing to work for it, but he needed the money right away. So having been down that road before I asked if he had any collateral? He produced his phone and charger for me to hold, and I gave him the money and told him to come back the next day to work. He came back and worked for what I had given him so I gladly gave him his phone back. He was a decent worker, and I was happily surprised. He asked if he could come back the next day, and if I would give him some again in advance so I gave him $20. I started thinking of work I could give him, so I went out and bought a wheelbarrow. I haven't seen him since. So I guess I worked him to death, and I'll be pushing my own wheelbarrow.

gbasden wrote:

em2nought wrote:

gbasden wrote:

em2nought wrote:
How else with you entice me to hire an "American" worker along with all his or her baggage they bring to the job? Most of them probably need to attend a reeducation camp on worth ethic before they'd even be of any use.

Meaning you couldn't literally work them to death as if they were in a 3rd world country? That attitude is disgusting.

Did I type that I was planning to work people to death? Stop putting your words down as if they were my thoughts, I'm pretty sick of it as the premier tactic of the left.

Just last week, a guy came begging me for money. Said churches had told him no, and said he was willing to work for it, but he needed the money right away. So having been down that road before I asked if he had any collateral? He produced his phone and charger for me to hold, and I gave him the money and told him to come back the next day to work. He came back and worked for what I had given him so I gladly gave him his phone back. He was a decent worker, and I was happily surprised. He asked if he could come back the next day, and if I would give him some again in advance so I gave him $20. I started thinking of work I could give him, so I went out and bought a wheelbarrow. I haven't seen him since. So I guess I worked him to death, and I'll be pushing my own wheelbarrow.

So because some guy didn't show up to work, all American workers need to go to reeducation camps? I'm pretty sick of the hyperbole that comes out of your camp as well.

gbasden wrote:So because some guy didn't show up to work, all American workers need to go to reeducation camps?

Just last week, a guy came begging me for money. Said churches had told him no, and said he was willing to work for it, but he needed the money right away. So having been down that road before I asked if he had any collateral? He produced his phone and charger for me to hold, and I gave him the money and told him to come back the next day to work. He came back and worked for what I had given him so I gladly gave him his phone back. He was a decent worker, and I was happily surprised. He asked if he could come back the next day, and if I would give him some again in advance so I gave him $20. I started thinking of work I could give him, so I went out and bought a wheelbarrow. I haven't seen him since. So I guess I worked him to death, and I'll be pushing my own wheelbarrow.

On March 18, 2016, Donald Trump’s campaign reached out to Local 2544 about a potential endorsement. I informed Mr. Trump’s campaign that NBPC had long standing practice of not endorsing Presidential candidates and that as the President of Local 2544, and I would continue to adhere to that practice.

However, the National Border Patrol Council and Local 2544 are pleased to inform voters that Mr. Trump is the only candidate that has publicly expressed his support of our mission and our Agents. He has been an outspoken candidate on the need for a Secure Border and for this we are grateful.

The American public has continually called for a secure border and Donald Trump has promised to make this desire a reality. His campaign has expressed an interest in a Border Patrol’s Agent’s perspective and a tour of our border, that we will gladly provide. We do not seek to give tours but if asked we will happily provide a tour that gives a realistic idea of what our Agents face on a daily basis. Donald Trump is the only candidate who has expressed this interest.

We are confident that the National Border Patrol Council’s longstanding message about the unsecured border and much needed support for our Agents will be received well by Mr. Trump. The American public deserves to be secure in their own country and we encourage all voters to consider that candidate that has the political will to make it happen.

hepcat wrote:p.s. I have been following your prose version of the William Carlos William poem for a while now.

Rip wrote: Discouraging that a leftie sees that and neither Ted Cruz nor Bernie Sanders do.

gilraen wrote:

Rip wrote: Discouraging that a leftie sees that and neither Ted Cruz nor Bernie Sanders do.

Are you seriously implying that no protesters interrupted Obama's campaign speeches? Hell, a republican congressman interrupted his State of the Union once, are we really going to talk about what goes both ways?

tjg_marantz wrote:Hitler!

gilraen wrote:

Rip wrote: Discouraging that a leftie sees that and neither Ted Cruz nor Bernie Sanders do.

Are you seriously implying that no protesters interrupted Obama's campaign speeches? Hell, a republican congressman interrupted his State of the Union once, are we really going to talk about what goes both ways?

hepcat wrote: Just as Trump would like you to know that the KKK's support of his campaign does not mean he's a member, I would hope the actions of extremists on the other side are not being seen as reprentative of everyone they say they support.

hepcat wrote:Why is them in quotes?

Defiant wrote:Utah loves Trump

Not saying that Democrats will win Utah, but if it's within the realm of possibility, then there's a potential that the whole electoral map will be different from what we've seen in recent years.

On immigration, for example, the hard-line proposals that have rallied Trump’s fans — like building a massive wall along the country’s southern border to keep immigrants out — are considerably less likely to fire up conservative Latter-day Saints. The LDS church has spent years lobbying for “compassionate” immigration reform.

Many Mormon voters are similarly wary of another Trump campaign hallmark: Muslim-bashing.

Last year, when the billionaire proposed banning all Muslims from entering the United States in the wake of the San Bernardino terrorist attack, Trump became the only candidate in either party this election cycle to elicit a response from LDS church leadership.

hepcat wrote:It's hardly the sole domain of foreign trade agreements though. And it's hardly an American problem only.

A lack of oversight is the problem. And what happens whenever someone tries to put that into play? The GOP screams bloody murder and rallies around the banner of a free and open market. Now the self identified victims of corruption in our free market are trying to elect someone who has spent his entire life trying to figure out ways to screw others just like them. It's like the sheep holding an impromptu vote after losing one too many of their brethren to the wolf...and putting a wolf in charge.

Zarathud wrote:Even if tax cuts and loopholes were the source of our economic problems, they were added by a Republican Congress under President Bush and there is ZERO chance that a President Trump would raise taxes. Instead, the Republican platform is consistently MORE tax cuts.

hepcat wrote:Why is them in quotes?