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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:19 am
by Octavious
They just dropped a ton of votes. Dems back ahead in one and down only 3k in the other. Stupid cities cocking up the R's plans.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:32 am
by Daehawk
Ossoff is worrying me. Still behind by 10,000.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:35 am
by Zaxxon
Daehawk wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:32 am Ossoff is worrying me. Still behind by 10,000.
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/13 ... 75104?s=19

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:36 am
by Skinypupy
Zaxxon wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:11 am
Had to get the election watchers out so they can get to the frauding. This is a real claim I've seen several times on Twitter tonight.
Seeing this one a lot as well. Along with “Funny how the Dem areas always take so much longer to report. They must be counting exactly how many votes they need to make up to win.”

Or...it could be that’s where the actual people live so there are more votes to count.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:37 am
by Daehawk
Zaxx....oh thank God. I didn't know about the absentee.
Or...it could be that’s where the actual people live so there are more votes to count.
People yes...lizard folk no.

Im so happy Loeffler is out. I hate her.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:40 am
by Kraken
I'm starting to like 2021.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:44 am
by Octavious
Well lets see how ugly tomorrow gets. Now that they know that the Dems will have everything they will be even more desperate.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:48 am
by Skinypupy
Right on cue.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 9492998146
Looks like they are setting up a big “voter dump” against the Republican candidates. Waiting to see how many votes they need?
Glad I’m not in DC...tomorrow’s gonna be really ugly.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:04 am
by Daehawk
I wish Twitter would ban him. All he does is spout hate and incite violence and stupidity.

Also I would like media to ignore the GOP totally. And if they do cover them call them what they are ...liars. Not incorrect. Not false information. LIES.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:08 am
by Alefroth
Skinypupy wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:48 am Right on cue.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTr ... 9492998146
Looks like they are setting up a big “voter dump” against the Republican candidates. Waiting to see how many votes they need?
Glad I’m not in DC...tomorrow’s gonna be really ugly.
It'd be funny if they needed 11,780.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:12 am
by Skinypupy
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1 ... 6934650880
I've seen enough. Jon Ossoff (D) defeats Sen. David Perdue (R) in GA's other Senate runoff. #GASEN

Democrats win control of the Senate.
:shock: :shock:

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:16 am
by Octavious
Ya it's over. It looks like they may have stopped posting for the night. With how important this is they couldn't just pull an all nighter? It just gives more ammo to the idiot. :P

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 am
by Kurth
The Warnock and Ossoff wins in GA surprise the hell out of me. I think that's the first time in a very long time that I've been surprised in a good way!

It's hard to believe the Turtle is going to get shoved back into his shell. As much as I'm happy to see Ossoff and Warnock win (although, honestly, I don't know all that much about either one of them), I'm even happier to see Mitch McConnel lose power. I despise that guy, and the fact that he's going to be relegated to a lesser position really gets 2021 off to a good start for me! :D

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:31 am
by Isgrimnur

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:38 am
by Little Raven
Blame everything, but especially Trump.
As I type, the Republicans look like they are going to lose the Georgia races, both of them. Congratulations to Joe Manchin, the moderate Dem of West Virginia, who would then be the most powerful senator. Congratulations to Stephen Breyer, the associate Supreme Court justice who would be promptly informed by the incoming White House that he is 82 years old and can be replaced, hopefully before another octogenarian Democrat dies in the world’s greatest deliberative body.

Blame the GOP candidates. Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue were bad candidates, though Loeffler was much, much worse. To my eyes, it seemed as if Loeffler barely understood — let alone believed in — the content of her attack lines on Raphael Warnock.

Blame Governor Brian Kemp: Why did he choose Loeffler to fill the seat? She’s a great fundraiser, but there was no evidence of talent for electoral politics.

Blame Donald Trump: This is the third election in which Donald Trump has made himself the sole focus of a campaign, and the third election that Democrats won new voters and had fantastic turnout: 2018, 2020, and now 2021. Instead of the races being about control of the Senate, Trump made the election about himself and his baseless claims of voter fraud. By indulging these claims, Loeffler and Perdue were put into a civil war with their governor and other elected Republicans in Georgia. They also gave more reasons for Democrats to turn out.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:39 am
by Daehawk
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 am
by Grifman
Anyone who believes this is insane. First it was China and Iran and Venezuela and NK, then servers in Spain and Germany, now Italy? When a story keeps shifting, that's a sign the conspiracy theory is falling a part. The thing is, millions of people will believe this. The Republican Party is now Idiocracy Party. My hope at this point is that the Trumpers decide to take their marbles and go home, or the party splits or becomes ineffective, so at some point, some reasonable, rational intelligent conservatives lead them out of the desert. But first they are going to have to find those people.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:12 am
by Kurth
Any early indication of whether the calls from the Lin Wood's of the world for Republicans to boycott the GA runoff election has any noticeable impact?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:15 am
by Octavious
Well since it looks like they lost both seats I would say it certainly didn't help. I would think the F'N POTUS saying that elections are rigged probably had more of an impact. Their boss is out the door and they are back to not giving a shit. Hopefully they stay that way. :P

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:20 am
by Alefroth
When will Warnock and presumably Ossoff be seated?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 2:21 am
by Jaymann
I learned my lesson on November 3, and didn't look at any results until the polls were closed for 4 hours. 2021 starts off with a bang! :dance: Now I can't wait to see the Cruz/Hawley/Pence shit show tomorrow. Let 'em postpone the inevitable for a couple days. IT'S OVER! And adios to Moscow Mitch!

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:26 am
by Enough
Ossoff has moved into the lead! :horse: Decision Desk has called both races and projects the Dems will control the Senate. :ninja:

I will not count those chickens yet, but already seeing Georgia elect it's first black senator (and the second in the south since Reconstruction) is such a stunning moment of history to drink in, and if Ossoff follows, just wow.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 3:48 am
by GungHo
Grifman wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:49 am
Anyone who believes this is insane. First it was China and Iran and Venezuela and NK, then servers in Spain and Germany, now Italy? When a story keeps shifting, that's a sign the conspiracy theory is falling a part. The thing is, millions of people will believe this. The Republican Party is now Idiocracy Party. My hope at this point is that the Trumpers decide to take their marbles and go home, or the party splits or becomes ineffective, so at some point, some reasonable, rational intelligent conservatives lead them out of the desert. But first they are going to have to find those people.
Not only do they have to find them, they have to be willing to join the Righteous Wing of the GOP that stands for conservative principles. All the while being attacked not just by their traditional enemies, the democrats, but also fending off the alt-right/trumpanzees.
I hope they have a good dental plan bc I'm not seeing much else there to entice a right thinking conservative to wade into that mess.
I mean I have no doubt some will, most will be found lacking, but they're going to need another Reagan-esque figure to patch them back together. Or another trump style clown show MC could do it probably better, but the good news is trump is unique in many ways and I think they have trouble finding another one who can go all in like trump, and not crack under the absurdity of it. trump has no bottom. Most ppl do

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 6:22 am
by msteelers
Not to be a downer after the two GA senate races, but the Republican coup attempt is spreading further down ballot.

The local Republican Party here is claiming election fraud after losing two county commission races to the Democrat incumbents, in a majority Democrat county.

They have no evidence. But they are making the same claims their Dear Leader is making.
Two unsuccessful GOP candidates for St. Lucie County Board of County Commission seats, Christopher Thompson and Ryan Edward Collins, and the local Republican Party on Nov. 27 filed a lawsuit against St. Lucie County Supervisor of Elections Gertrude Walker alleging flawed ballot counting, blank ballots mailed to deceased individuals, and a lack of scrutiny of mail-in ballots for accuracy by Walker’s office.1

No evidence was submitted as part of the complaint, nor is any evidence part of the public court record to date.2

The 19-page complaint filed in the 19th Judicial Circuit Court states both candidates lost the election due to the large influx of mail-in ballots.3 The claims made are comparable to those made by President Donald Trump who also sued several jurisdictions claiming mail vote fraud; his claims were dismissed in court. 4

Voters in record numbers across the country mailed in ballots because of the COVID-19 pandemic

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:28 am
by malchior

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 7:52 am
by malchior
Meanwhile in Pennsylvania, the opening of their legislative session was 'chaotic'. Another account at WaPo.

In essence, the Republicans ignored an election result that the PA Supreme Court ruled on and would not seat a Democratic State Senator.
The Inquirer wrote: The new session of the Pennsylvania Senate got off to a chaotic start Tuesday, with Republicans refusing to seat a Democratic senator whose election victory has been certified by state officials.

Amid high emotions and partisan finger-pointing, Republicans also took the rare step of removing the Democratic lieutenant governor, John Fetterman, from presiding over the session. They apparently did so because they did not believe Fetterman was following the rules and recognizing their legislative motions.

Democrats, in turn, responded by refusing to back Sen. Jake Corman (R., Centre) from assuming the chamber’s top leadership position — an unusual maneuver on what is most often a largely ceremonial and bipartisan vote.
WaPo wrote:In an interview, Lt. Gov. John Fetterman (D) accused Republicans of “raw partisanship,” drawing a “straight line” between their actions and broader GOP resistance to certifying the election of President-elect Joe Biden.

“This idea that one’s party is allowed to pick the winner, despite evidence to the contrary, is toxic and corrosive, and that is what you saw play out on the floor of the Senate today,” he said.

Brewster edged out his Republican opponent Nicole Ziccarelli by 69 votes, and Ziccarelli is urging a federal court to discount about 300 mail ballots from Allegheny County without handwritten dates on their envelopes. State law requires the dates, and Republicans note that many counties did not include such ballots in their tallies. But the Pennsylvania Supreme Court has allowed the disputed Allegheny County votes to be counted.

Republicans say they are justified in delaying Brewster’s seating while “ensuring … properly elected representation,” as Sen. Jake Corman, the president pro tempore, said in a statement. Corman said Pennsylvania’s secretary of state should have made sure voters were treated equally across counties before certifying election results.

“While we work to resolve this issue expeditiously we … are confident a brief delay in filling the seat for the 45th Senate District will not affect the balance of power in the Senate,” he said, adding that constituents “will continue to receive assistance with their state-related issues.”

Democrats say lawmakers have exceeded their authority in interfering with a certified race. Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf (D) called the refusal to seat Brewster “a disgrace to democracy.”

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:10 am
by LawBeefaroni
We're seeing how much they truly value The Constitution and law and order.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:41 am
by Defiant
Woke up to the good news of Democrats having won one race and are leading in the other after avoiding the news yesterday.

Thank you, Stacey Abrams, regardless of the result

(Maybe we also need to thank Trump, too)

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:54 am
by Jaymann
Countdown to Biden inauguration as President:

14 DAYS

Agolf was so tired of winning that he "campaigned" for Senator Laugh-ler and Senator Perdition in GA to assure they would lose. Now we get to watch Pence squirm and melt down with his "gut wrenching" cuckoo coup attempt.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:04 am
by Skinypupy
The temper tantrums today are certainly going to be something.

Stay safe, y'all.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am
by Unagi
So, who would vote for Warnock, but not cast their vote for both???

My guess is it was done in ignorance. Like some people didn’t realize they could ?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 am
by Jaymann
Unagi wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am So, who would vote for Warnock, but not cast their vote for both???

My guess is it was done in ignorance. Like some people didn’t realize they could ?
Well he is a black man in Georgia who ran against the epitome of a white, privileged berk with racist ties.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:24 am
by pr0ner
Unagi wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am So, who would vote for Warnock, but not cast their vote for both???

My guess is it was done in ignorance. Like some people didn’t realize they could ?
I am sure the correct answers are much more involved than simply ignorance.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:34 am
by Holman
Today I'm proud to be from Georgia!

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:45 am
by hepcat
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:46 am
by Octavious
Good thing I'm not a stock broker. Market is fine so far today. :lol: I really need to get some work done today so I'm going to try my best to not read the news nonstop. I have a feeling I will fail. :lol:

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:03 am
by stessier
pr0ner wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:24 am
Unagi wrote: Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:07 am So, who would vote for Warnock, but not cast their vote for both???

My guess is it was done in ignorance. Like some people didn’t realize they could ?
I am sure the correct answers are much more involved than simply ignorance.
If the GA electorate is anything like what I witnessed in SC, I would bet my a lot that a significant percentage were unaware they could vote for both.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:15 am
by Defiant
The vote totals of the two races were less than 100 votes apart. While it's possible that single election voters split roughly equally between the two races, I don't think it's very likely to have been the bulk of the discrepancy between the two races.

I think there could have been moderates/independents who don't like both sides and decided to split their votes. Or it could be sexism or racism or name recognition, etc.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:20 am
by El Guapo
Perdue is probably a better candidate than Loeffler, as well. Perdue has won statewide before, whereas Loeffler has not. Wouldn't be shocking if at least a few people responded to Perdue's pitch than didn't respond to Loeffler.

Likely not enough to save Perdue, though.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 11:21 am
by El Guapo
One note is that since Warnock won a special election, he'll need to run again in 2022. Whereas Ossoff (assuming he holds on) will serve until 2026.