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Zarathud wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:18 pmI don't want a revolution, I want responsible adults like Biden in charge again. Bernie may be old, but he's still not a responsible adult.

Zarathud wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:18 pm I am off to vent my frustration by voting in the Illinois primary.

malchior wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:49 pm

Zarathud wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:18 pmI don't want a revolution, I want responsible adults like Biden in charge again. Bernie may be old, but he's still not a responsible adult.

The problem is Bernie. I just saw a special report on it. Essentially this was going to be a rough segment of the calendar for Bernie. Postponing any primary gives Bernie more time before having to concede. And he is doing the devil's work by exploiting this to say he's still viable in the race. It is what is driving the DNC to embrace madness and try to get people out to vote. They want to end the primary season.

Kurth wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:05 am

malchior wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:49 pm

Zarathud wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 4:18 pmI don't want a revolution, I want responsible adults like Biden in charge again. Bernie may be old, but he's still not a responsible adult.

The problem is Bernie. I just saw a special report on it. Essentially this was going to be a rough segment of the calendar for Bernie. Postponing any primary gives Bernie more time before having to concede. And he is doing the devil's work by exploiting this to say he's still viable in the race. It is what is driving the DNC to embrace madness and try to get people out to vote. They want to end the primary season.

I’ve gone from being fixated on this to barely paying attention, but didn’t the results today finish Bernie off? He’s done for all practical purposes, no?

Bernie Sanders will assess his presidential campaign after the Vermont senator's poor showing in Tuesday's Democratic primaries, his campaign manager announced Wednesday.

"The next primary contest is at least three weeks away. Sen. Sanders is going to be having conversations with supporters to assess his campaign," Sanders campaign manager Faiz Shakir said in a statement Wednesday morning.

LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:59 am Looks like Sanders has officially suspended his campaign.

pr0ner wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:26 pm It is interesting watching some Bernie supporters freak out about Trump's recent virus response (with the bailouts and the checks and the populism) and thinking it's going to hand this year's election to Trump and why is the Democratic party making the mistake of making Biden and not Bernie the nominee and ouch.

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:06 pm So, question from the politically naive: If Sanders does drop out, do the primaries continue, or is a winner simply declared to let people stay home?

malchior wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:08 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:06 pm So, question from the politically naive: If Sanders does drop out, do the primaries continue, or is a winner simply declared to let people stay home?

I think they declare it done or push them way back. At some point there will need to be a decision about how to hold the convention. If this is still going they can't even do that. The GOP primaries should end now. What's the point? Will any of that happen? Who knows. Anything is possible.

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:06 pm So, question from the politically naive: If Sanders does drop out, do the primaries continue, or is a winner simply declared to let people stay home?

ImLawBoy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:36 pm The primaries are still needed for the non-presidential races - House, Senate, local races, etc.

El Guapo wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:34 pm

malchior wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:08 pm

Blackhawk wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:06 pm So, question from the politically naive: If Sanders does drop out, do the primaries continue, or is a winner simply declared to let people stay home?

I think they declare it done or push them way back. At some point there will need to be a decision about how to hold the convention. If this is still going they can't even do that. The GOP primaries should end now. What's the point? Will any of that happen? Who knows. Anything is possible.

But if I'm the DNC, I worry that if we just cancel the primaries, that Sanders' folks will cast this as some pro-Biden conspiracy. You have to figure that they'd spend some time negotiating with Sanders, as having him on board would make a big difference. And conversely, if Sanders himself would denounce canceling the rest of the primaries, then that would become a bigger problem.

Other main option is working with remaining states on having mail in ballots / absentee ballots generally available.

ImLawBoy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:36 pm The primaries are still needed for the non-presidential races - House, Senate, local races, etc.

Holman wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:18 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:36 pm The primaries are still needed for the non-presidential races - House, Senate, local races, etc.

Plus the Biden team has an interest in getting as many delegates as possible (which is easy to do when you're the only active campaign). He needs to ride into the convention able to win a decisive majority on the first ballot without even a hint of superdelegate engagement.

I know Vice President Biden and his wife and am grateful to have called his son Beau, who also served in the National Guard, a friend. Although I may not agree with the vice president on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people," she said in a campaign email.

Defiant wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:10 am Tulsi Gabbard suspends presidential campaign, endorses Biden

I know Vice President Biden and his wife and am grateful to have called his son Beau, who also served in the National Guard, a friend. Although I may not agree with the vice president on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people," she said in a campaign email.

Daehawk wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:59 pm Im not sure her support is good or bad.

The Order specifically requires the following, effective immediately:

Candidates filing petitions for the March 30th deadline shall be able to submit their petitions online, in addition to in person, and the Secretary of State shall create an online form that allows voters to submit their signatures on petitions electronically.
The March 21, 2020 special election in Fire District 1 for the Township of Old Bridge and the March 31, 2020 special elections in the Township of West Amwell and Atlantic City shall be postponed until May 12, 2020, to be held concurrently with the municipal non-partisan elections currently scheduled for that date.
The school board elections scheduled for April 21, 2020 shall also be postponed until May 12, 2020, to be held concurrently with the municipal non-partisan elections currently scheduled for that date.
All elections scheduled for May 12, 2020, both before and after this Order takes effect, shall be conducted solely via vote-by-mail ballots.

pr0ner wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:53 pm Trump tells governors to find their own supplies. Charlie Baker tries, says he can't because the feds are winning the bids.

Outrageous news from Mitch McConnell’s home state: instead of passing emergency vote by mail law, Kentucky GOP legislature just rushed through new voter ID law at time when DMVs are closed & voters can’t get ID needed to vote.

El Guapo wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:21 am What's the point of having veto authority if it just needs a majority to override?

El Guapo wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:21 am What's the point of having veto authority if it just needs a majority to override?

— People on the Upper West Side sang from their windows to lighten the mood, much like Italian residents in quarantine did.

— A Brooklyn man allegedly hit a neighbor with his car for failing at social distancing.