Octopus Overlords

Qantaga wrote:Prospector for 1 doubloon to end El Guapo's second term.

Calculating

Qantaga wrote:Prospector for 1 doubloon to end El Guapo's second term.

Four more years! Four more years!

El Guapo wrote:

Qantaga wrote:Prospector for 1 doubloon to end El Guapo's second term.

Four more years! Four more years!

Citizens United for ya....

The Meeplublican Province of Carcassonne would like to express their displeasure with the Mayorship of El G

Chaosraven wrote:The Meeplublican Province of Carcassonne would like to express their displeasure with the Mayorship of El G

Governorship. Now, off to prison with you.

End of Round 06, the second Governorship of El Guapo.

Banked doubloons are in stacks of 10 or spread, so that's 39 (five being invisible ).

History:

Round 01
El Guapo: Settler (quarry); Newcastle (indigo); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (corn); Qantaga (indigo)
Newcastle: Prospector (1)
Chaosraven: Builder(sm sugar); LordMortis (sm indigo); Qantaga (sm sugar); El Guapo (sm indigo); Newcastle (tobacco storage)
LordMortis: Mayor (2); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1); Chaosraven (1)
Qantaga: Prospector (1)

Round 2
Newcastle: Settler (tobacco); Chaosraven (corn); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (sugar); El Guapo (tobacco)
Chaosraven: Mayor (3); LordMortis (1); Qantaga (1); El Guapo (1); Newcastle (1)
LordMortis: Craftsman (1 corn, 2 indigo); Qantaga (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Trader (1 sugar); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (1 tobacco); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (1 indigo)
El Guapo: Builder (tobacco storage); Newcastle (sm warehouse); Chaosraven (sm warehouse); LordMortis (hospice); Qantaga (office)

Round 3
Chaosraven: Builder (sm indigo plant); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (sm market); El Guapo (sm market); Newcastle (-)
LordMortis: Captain (1 corn, 1 indigo); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (-); Chaosraven (1 corn, 1 sugar)
Qantaga: Settler (coffee); El Guapo (tobacco); Newcastle (corn); Chaosraven (sugar); LordMortis (indigo)
El Guapo: Mayor (2); Newcastle (2); Chaosraven (2); LordMortis (2); Qantaga (2)
Newcastle: Prospector(2)

Round 4
LordMortis: Prospector(3)
Qantaga: Mayor (3); El Guapo (2); Newcastle (1), Chaosraven (1), LordMortis (1)
El Guapo: Craftsman (indigox2, tobacco); Newcastle(corn, tobacco); Chaosraven(corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis(corn, indigo); Qantaga(corn, sugar)
Newcastle: Settler (quarry); Chaosraven (coffee); LordMortis (indigo); Qantaga (coffee); El Guapo (indigo)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigo); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigox2); Newcastle (corn)

Round 5
Qantaga: Prospector
El Guapo: Craftsman (indigox2, tobacco); Newcastle(corn, tobacco); Chaosraven(corn, indigo, sugar); LordMortis(corn, indigo); Qantaga( corn, sugar)
Newcastle: Trader (corn); Chaosraven (-); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-)
Chaosraven: Captain (corn, sugar); LordMortis (corn, indigo); Qantaga (corn, sugar); El Guapo (indigox2); Newcastle (corn)
LordMortis: Builder (Lg indigo plant); Qantaga (-); El Guapo (-); Newcastle (office); Chaosraven (-)

Round 6
El Guapo: Trader (tobacco); Newcastle (-); Chaosraven (indigo); LordMortis (-); Qantaga (-)
Newcastle: Mayor (2); Chaosraven 1; LordMortis 1; Qantaga 1; El Guapo 1
Chaosraven: Prospector
LordMortis: Settler (quarry); Qantaga (sugar); El Guapo (corn); Newcastle (coffee); Chaosraven (corn)
Qantaga: Prospector

Start of Round 07:

Victory Point Chips: obfuscated
Doubloons: 39
Colonists in supply: 60
Colonists on inbound ship: 5
Coffee crates in supply: 9
Tobacco crates in supply: 6
Sugar crates in supply: 6
Indigo crates in supply: 10
Corn crates in supply: 7
Trade House: (1) tobacco (2) indigo (3) --- (4) ---

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The number on the left is the price in doubloons. For worker capacity and VP value, see the BUILDINGS section above.
As these are acquired, I'll put them under erasure and mark them with the initial of the owner EG, N, C, LM, or Q.

Bank Board
Column 1
(1) [small indigo plant LM] [small indigo plant EG] [small indigo plant C] [small indigo plant]
(2) [small sugar mill C] [small sugar mill Q] [small sugar mill] [small sugar mill]
(1) [small market Q] [small market EG]
(2) [hacienda] [hacienda]
(2) [construction hut] [construction hut]
(3) [small warehouse N] [small warehouse C]
Column 2
(3) [large indigo plant LM] [large indigo plant] [large indigo plant]
(4) [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill] [large sugar mill]
(4) [hospice LM] [hospice]
(5) [office Q] [office N]
(5) [large market] [large market]
(6) [large warehouse] [large warehouse]
Column 3
(5) [tobacco storage N] [tobacco storage EG] [tobacco storage]
(6) [coffee roaster] [coffee roaster] [coffee roaster]
(7) [university] [university]
(8) [factory] [factory]
(8) [harbor] [harbor]
(9) [wharf] [wharf]
Column 4
(10) [guild hall]
(10) [residence]
(10) [fortress]
(10) [customs house]
(10) [city hall]
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Plantations and Quarries Available
Plantations:

• sugar
• corn
• sugar
• indigo
• sugar
• corn

Quarries:

• Quarry EG
• Quarry N
• Quarry LM
• Quarry
• Quarry
• Quarry
• Quarry
• Quarry

• Builder (+1)
• Captain (+1)
• Craftsman (+1)
• Mayor
• Prospector
• Prospector
• Settler
• Trader

Here are the ASCII boards from the end of Round 06:
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1: El Guapo
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 06
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 07
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [tobacco_____________1] [____________________] [corn________________0]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________1] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [tobacco storage_____2] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market_________0]
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2: Newcastle
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 01
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 06
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 02, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[tobacco_____________1] [indigo______________0] [coffee_______________] [corn_______________1]
[tobacco_____________0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[tobacco storage______1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [office_______________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
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3: Chaosraven
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 03
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 07
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [corn_______________1]
[____________________] [sugar_______________0] [____________________] [corn_______________0]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant____1] [small sugar mill______1] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small warehouse______1]
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4: LordMortis
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 05
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 08
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[indigo______________1] [indigo______________0] [____________________] [corn________________1]
[indigo______________1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[indigo______________0] [____________________] [____________________] [quarry______________1]
Buildings and workers:
[small indigo plant_____1] [____________________] [____________________] [___________________]
[large indigo plant_____2] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [hospice_____________1]
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5: Qantaga
Victory Points: ???
Doubloons: 03
Idle Colonists: 00
Employed Colonists: 07
Crates on Hand: Corn: 00, Indigo: 00, Sugar: 00, Tobacco: 00, Coffee:00
Plantations and workers:
[sugar_______________1] [coffee______________1] [____________________][corn________________1]
[sugar_______________0] [coffee______________1] [____________________] [____________________]
[sugar_______________0] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
Buildings and workers:
[small sugar mill______1] [____________________] [____________________] [____________________]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [small market________1]
[____________________] [____________________] [____________________] [office______________1]
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Please look over your boards carefully. I try to be exact, but given the way we're playing this game, it's entirely possible for me to miss placement of a doubloon or somesuch. Lemme know.

On with the second governorship of Newcastle!

i am pretty sure you are off on yoru doubloon count for me, i think i am suppose to have 1.

- i spent 5 for teh office that brought me to zero

-then i took the mayor and that brought me to 1 doubloon.

For my turn -

I will trader - i will use my office to put another Tobacco down...

that should net me 4 doubloons there right?

Newcastle wrote:that should net me 4 doubloons there right?

3 + 1 as your perq, yes. All previous posts updated to reflect your doubloon correction, too.

Since you're the only player with crates, that ends the Trader turn. Trade House looks like this:

Trade House

• tobacco
• indigo
• tobacco
• ---

Selection proceeds to Chaosraven:

• Builder (+1)
• Captain (+1)
• Craftsman (+1)
• Mayor
• Prospector
• Prospector
• Settler
• Trader N

My board looks right. I can't really count the VP tokens, but it looks roughly correct. Incidentally, is the number of VP tokens public information, beyond a quick gander at how high the stack looks? From the ASCII report my guess is "no", but I just want to confirm.

Also - thanks for running the game - it's fun.

El Guapo wrote:Incidentally, is the number of VP tokens public information, beyond a quick gander at how high the stack looks? From the ASCII report my guess is "no", but I just want to confirm.

The Rules state that each player should keep his VP count obscure. This is to discourage too calculated a game.

By PM, I'll tell each player what my spreadsheet says about his victory points.

Also - thanks for running the game - it's fun.

I'm glad.

Grundbegriff wrote:Please look over your boards carefully. I try to be exact, but given the way we're playing this game, it's entirely possible for me to miss placement of a doubloon or somesuch. Lemme know.

On with the second governorship of Newcastle!

You have a crazy hectic job going on and are making an excellent go of it for a fun and well paced game. I tried to watch the entire game but then started screwing up more than I was keeping track, so I went to just trying to paying attention to me.

We're now on Chaosraven choosing action, right?

Take a coin for CRAFTSMAN.

Extra Sugar for me if there's any left. Corn if not.

I produce 1 indigo and 2 tobacco.

I will end up producing 2 Indigo and 1 Corn.

My read says:

CR 1 corn, 1 indigo, 1 sugar
LM 2 indigo, 1 corn
Q 1 corn, 1 sugar
EG 1 indigo, 2 tobacco
NC 1 tobacco, 1 corn

Leaving plenty for

CR for +1 Sugar

and putting me in a PITA position. I suppose I will build a small sugar mill for free after quarry and + 1 Doubloon, bringing my Doubloon total to 6.

If I read the board correctly (please correct me if i am wrong - LM & Q double check me please)

Chaosraven - 1 indigo, 1 sugar, 1 corn and (Extra Sugar for me if there's any left. Corn if not.)

LM produces - 2 indigo, 1 corn

Qantaga produces - 1 sugar, 1 corn

El Guapo produces - 1 indigo and 2 tobacco.

Newcastle produces - 1 tobacco & 1 corn

Your read was the same as mine, so between I'm thinking we are correct.

Is there a finite supply of goods? Or is the reason that CR was worried he might not get any was due to them being held up in boats & the trade house?

LordMortis wrote:Your read was the same as mine, so between I'm thinking we are correct.

sweet....just doin what i can to keep the game moving...oh how's magequest coming along LM? ANy hope to see that on the forums any time soon? Or is that an impossibile one to do. thats one game i wish i could have played while hanging w/ you guys.

So assuming all this is correct, it's now a build order to Qantaga, right?

yup

Newcastle wrote:Is there a finite supply of goods?

Yes. Everything you see is WYSIWYG. When warehouses come into play, such as the two small warehouses in play now, hoarding becomes common. Then goods are first come first served. The captain's privilege of one extra good happens after everyone else has produced.

Strategically when goods start to become hoarded the game changes dramatically as well. Ships will come back and fill up instantly as one player empties their warehouse.

I debated building a large warehouse this turn to protect my indigo but by the time I could get it manned it would likely be too late. I debated shipping but one doubloon and one extra VP doesn't really advance my cause over the course of five or six more turns, especially while letting everyone else ship.

I probably chose poorly but I hope not.

...

I don't see me making time and oompth to host a game. I'm impressed by those who do. Maybe that will change. I don't know but right now, it's pretty much off the table.

No build for me.

I'll build a factory for 6 doubloons (7 - 1 quarry).

Grund, it looks like the write-up in the second post of the thread on buildings reversed the details of factories with universities - I believe the factory is the one that gives bonus doubloons based on production diversity.

Large Market for 5 doubloons (4 doubloons in hand, +1 from quarry = 5)

(leaves me w/ 1 doubloon for teh record)

El Guapo wrote:I'll build a factory for 6 doubloons (7 - 1 quarry).

Grund, it looks like the write-up in the second post of the thread on buildings reversed the details of factories with universities - I believe the factory is the one that gives bonus doubloons based on production diversity.

It is, but I believe it costs 8 in this game

With 4 Dublnz I can't get what I want so no build

Chaosraven wrote:

El Guapo wrote:I'll build a factory for 6 doubloons (7 - 1 quarry).

Grund, it looks like the write-up in the second post of the thread on buildings reversed the details of factories with universities - I believe the factory is the one that gives bonus doubloons based on production diversity.

It is, but I believe it costs 8 in this game

I was going by the text (which I think reflects the pictures)

(7) [university] [university]
(8) [factory] [factory]

Yeah not sure what to follow now...so confused...i blame the mod (well not really, but easy scape goats i cant pass by)...though clarity would be appreciated.

Grund noted at the start a house rule of the two buildings price switched. The ascii is "updated", the picture will show 7 for factory, 8 for university. Follow the ascii.

Chaosraven wrote:Grund noted at the start a house rule of the two buildings price switched. The ascii is "updated", the picture will show 7 for factory, 8 for university. Follow the ascii.

no one likes a kiss ass

(thanks for the clarity)

I was looking at the text descriptions, but the entire descriptions were switched, not just the price:

university: cost: 7, capacity: 1, VP value: 3, quantity: 2 (Craftsman: receive doubloons for diversity of product line)
factory: cost: 8, capacity: 1, VP value: 3, quantity: 2 (Builder: purchased building already has a colonist)

So since I couldn't just go by that, I looked at the picture. Missed the house rule.

So, since I apparently can't build a factory, I'll build the final small sugar mill for 1 doubloon (2 - 1 quarry), leaving me with 5 doubloons.

Man, I am getting lapped this game. I'm not sure what I've done wrong, but everyone has cash, except me. (Maybe it's because I'm sitting behind Chaos and LM, while El Guapo and Newcastle are playing footsies).

I *think* it's my turn, so I'm sorting through the available options now...

Grundbegriff wrote:

• Builder (+1)LM
• Captain (+1)
  
• Craftsman (+1)CR
• Mayor
• Prospector
• Prospector
• Settler
• Trader N

I think actually Chaosraven has a chance to build now, then it's your (Qantaga's) turn to choose an action.

El Guapo wrote:I think actually Chaosraven has a chance to build now, then it's your (Qantaga's) turn to choose an action.

Oh, I think this means he wasn't going to build:

Chaosraven wrote:With 4 Dublnz I can't get what I want so no build