Octopus Overlords

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:I want to test  Remus West 
 


Unless the seer is a rookie, there is a good chance Remus will not get scanned since he is often an early lynch target. Better safe than sorry. He was on my short list in round 1 and I see no reason to remove him from my list.

So, your reasoning for voting me today is that I haven't done anything in the single day and night we have had to earn your trust?

and the way you kept harping on the "villager thinking a trap has been set and letting the village know" scenario yesterday felt wolfy.

You still do not see what I was saying at all. Lets try one more time. The idea is that when I looked at what scoop did I did not think "trap". I thought "weird". Your mindset said "trap". To me, wolves look for "traps", I don't look at behaviors as though they might be traps when I'm a villager - thus you looking at Scoop's behavior as though it is a trap makes me think you are worried about stepping in a trap. It had nothing to do with letting people know or not. It had to do with what you are looking for in the original post.

Lassr wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:I want to test  Remus West 
 


Unless the seer is a rookie, there is a good chance Remus will not get scanned since he is often an early lynch target. Better safe than sorry. He was on my short list in round 1 and I see no reason to remove him from my list.

So, your reasoning for voting me today is that I haven't done anything in the single day and night we have had to earn your trust?

and the way you kept harping on the "villager thinking a trap has been set and letting the village know" scenario yesterday felt wolfy.

You still do not see what I was saying at all. Lets try one more time. The idea is that when I looked at what scoop did I did not think "trap". I thought "weird". Your mindset said "trap". To me, wolves look for "traps", I don't look at behaviors as though they might be traps when I'm a villager - thus you looking at Scoop's behavior as though it is a trap makes me think you are worried about stepping in a trap. It had nothing to do with letting people know or not. It had to do with what you are looking for in the original post.

and see there you go again...I didn't say I saw it as a trap. RMC did, I was commenting on why if he saw it as a trap or fact gathering post, why would he announce it to everyone to spoil the ploy.
My posts were about RMC not Scoop.

RMC wrote:

bb2112 wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote: scoop20906 
 


Aargh. Just irritating.

Wow. That is a total overreaction. I got the joke. I was playing along to see who else would follow. Theohall looks pretty suspicious. Not only does he follow, but he labels your innocent comment as a slip. But then you do this. Aren't you a little experienced to throw a tantrum and self vote? Especially on day one?

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

RMC wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:I want to test  Remus West 
 


Unless the seer is a rookie, there is a good chance Remus will not get scanned since he is often an early lynch target. Better safe than sorry. He was on my short list in round 1 and I see no reason to remove him from my list.

So, your reasoning for voting me today is that I haven't done anything in the single day and night we have had to earn your trust?

and the way you kept harping on the "villager thinking a trap has been set and letting the village know" scenario yesterday felt wolfy.

You still do not see what I was saying at all. Lets try one more time. The idea is that when I looked at what scoop did I did not think "trap". I thought "weird". Your mindset said "trap". To me, wolves look for "traps", I don't look at behaviors as though they might be traps when I'm a villager - thus you looking at Scoop's behavior as though it is a trap makes me think you are worried about stepping in a trap. It had nothing to do with letting people know or not. It had to do with what you are looking for in the original post.

and see there you go again...I didn't say I saw it as a trap. RMC did, I was commenting on why if he saw it as a trap or fact gathering post, why would he announce it to everyone to spoil the ploy.
My posts were about RMC not Scoop.

Lassr you are starting to sound like wolf Lassr to me now. I simply stated:

RMC wrote:

bb2112 wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote: scoop20906 
 


Aargh. Just irritating.

Wow. That is a total overreaction. I got the joke. I was playing along to see who else would follow. Theohall looks pretty suspicious. Not only does he follow, but he labels your innocent comment as a slip. But then you do this. Aren't you a little experienced to throw a tantrum and self vote? Especially on day one?

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

So did I call it out as a trap? Nope, just let BB(The same one that got killed by the wolves) know that this might be calculated. As a matter of fact, BB says he get's the joke. Did he call out his own over reaction?

Does it warn people not to over react? I guess, but really...the only one to over react was BB. <sigh>

So Lassr, are you building a case against me, or Remus? Or just trying to stir the pot yourself as a wolf?

Lassr wrote:

RMC wrote:So Lassr, are you building a case against me, or Remus? Or just trying to stir the pot yourself as a wolf?

Have I voted for you? This started as a simple reaction to what Scoop said about your post about his tantrum. Remus kept reading my posts wrong and that is where my curiosity picked up so this is more about Remus than you.

Lassr wrote:

theohall wrote:
Please... go look at my Day One track record. It's all over the map. Now, when we have more information to go on...yes, I tend to have blinders then. Like right now, I believe Scoop to be right. All of the comments he made about the reactions of others to his post seem to be spot on and the only one acting like they "know" something is RMC.

RMC is the only one that mentions it in the thread. I suspected Scoop was up to something also because that "hissy fit" was a bit out of character. Now, on the other hand, IF I suspect that someone is setting a trap, I as a villager will not post I think it's a trap. All that does is destroy any chance the trap may work. So I wonder if a lot of us thought Scoop was up to something and only RMC posted it.

THAT is where I wonder about RMC. Why give away the fact that you think Scoop is up to something and warn the wolves unless you are a wolf.

But how many times have villagers noted someone is up to something out of innocence/ignorance. A bunch.

So your flip flopping and RMC's announcement that Scoop could be up to something are the two big pieces if info I am working with right now. Nothing else has stood out to me.

Lassr wrote: Scoop was up to something, his rant and self vote were not his normal MO. I waited him out, but RMC says

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

Lassr wrote:

Lassr wrote: Scoop was up to something, his rant and self vote were not his normal MO. I waited him out, but RMC says

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

RMC wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Lassr wrote: Scoop was up to something, his rant and self vote were not his normal MO. I waited him out, but RMC says

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

My above quote has all the information in it. Why would you reduce it down to just this?

You really are acting more like Wolf Lassr then good lassr....

Lassr wrote:

RMC wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Lassr wrote: Scoop was up to something, his rant and self vote were not his normal MO. I waited him out, but RMC says

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

My above quote has all the information in it. Why would you reduce it down to just this?

You really are acting more like Wolf Lassr then good lassr....

I'm trying to get the point across that these were the posts that started what I was talking about. We have now taken a very simple thing that started with a few lines and blown it up into pages of whatever you want to call it. It now feels like Remus is using this as a distraction. Thus my vote for him.

Vorret wrote:

Lassr wrote:

RMC wrote:

Lassr wrote:

Lassr wrote: Scoop was up to something, his rant and self vote were not his normal MO. I waited him out, but RMC says

Don't you think this might be calculated to see whom does what? Hmmmm......

My above quote has all the information in it. Why would you reduce it down to just this?

You really are acting more like Wolf Lassr then good lassr....

I'm trying to get the point across that these were the posts that started what I was talking about. We have now taken a very simple thing that started with a few lines and blown it up into pages of whatever you want to call it. It now feels like Remus is using this as a distraction. Thus my vote for him.

I'm sorry but... what?
You sound angry. Angry at RW and RMC. Angry pirate or angry wolf?

Lassr wrote:Go for it.

Get me out of the way. Apparently I have become a distraction.

pr0ner wrote:

Lassr wrote:Go for it.

Get me out of the way. Apparently I have become a distraction.

A distraction? I certainly wasn't thinking of voting for you for that reason.

tru1cy wrote:Not moving my vote, but I am interested in what the non-committed are thinking.

Lassr wrote:

pr0ner wrote:

Lassr wrote:Go for it.

Get me out of the way. Apparently I have become a distraction.

A distraction? I certainly wasn't thinking of voting for you for that reason.

well, if you are voting for me because you think I am an evil spirit then you would be wrong.

pr0ner wrote:

Lassr wrote:

pr0ner wrote:

Lassr wrote:Go for it.

Get me out of the way. Apparently I have become a distraction.

A distraction? I certainly wasn't thinking of voting for you for that reason.

well, if you are voting for me because you think I am an evil spirit then you would be wrong.

I'm voting for you because your anger and frustration remind me of some evil play by people in the past.

Holman seems overly cautious, even for a newbie, but I think if he's evil, he'll give himself enough rope to use later that I need not focus on him now.

Lassr wrote:Frustration that no one else seems to see that Remus took some of my statements and warped them into something else.

Wolf or not, he did not help the village by doing that.

If I am a wolf then I have played very very poorly this game drawing so much attention to myself.

pr0ner wrote:
Holman seems overly cautious, even for a newbie, but I think if he's evil, he'll give himself enough rope to use later that I need not focus on him now.

Holman wrote:

pr0ner wrote:
Holman seems overly cautious, even for a newbie, but I think if he's evil, he'll give himself enough rope to use later that I need not focus on him now.

This is where my newbie confusion shows up again: how have I been "overly cautious"?

I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

Holman wrote:

pr0ner wrote:
Holman seems overly cautious, even for a newbie, but I think if he's evil, he'll give himself enough rope to use later that I need not focus on him now.

This is where my newbie confusion shows up again: how have I been "overly cautious"?

I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

Vorret wrote:

Holman wrote:

pr0ner wrote:
Holman seems overly cautious, even for a newbie, but I think if he's evil, he'll give himself enough rope to use later that I need not focus on him now.

This is where my newbie confusion shows up again: how have I been "overly cautious"?

I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

Need a shovel?

Remus West wrote:

Holman wrote: I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

You answered your won question. It isn't about not looking like a wolf. It is about poking and prodding the others into revealing if they are a wolf or not.

Holman wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Holman wrote: I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

You answered your won question. It isn't about not looking like a wolf. It is about poking and prodding the others into revealing if they are a wolf or not.

Except it *is* about not looking like a wolf, isn't it? Everyone in the game looks like a wolf to everyone else until they're (more or less) ruled out.

I'm taking the long view. For some reason I look like a wolf to two voters right now, and I'd like to know why. I decided pr0ner looks like a wolf because he was talking so little, although now (I notice) he's talking more.

Still looking for a positive reason to vote for a wolf. But it seems to me that the game is mostly about looking for reasons not to vote for someone.

tru1cy wrote:Here.. Just coming off my Superbowl high.


I'll catch up and post more tonight

RMC wrote:

Holman wrote:

Remus West wrote:

Holman wrote: I've been talking a lot, as I was under the impression that being silent was a way to look like a wolf. If you lynch me for a wolf, that just means the real wolves have hung back and let me talk myself into some kind of trouble.

If you think I'm acting like a newbie wolf, please tell me what a newbie villager does differently!

You answered your won question. It isn't about not looking like a wolf. It is about poking and prodding the others into revealing if they are a wolf or not.

Except it *is* about not looking like a wolf, isn't it? Everyone in the game looks like a wolf to everyone else until they're (more or less) ruled out.

I'm taking the long view. For some reason I look like a wolf to two voters right now, and I'd like to know why. I decided pr0ner looks like a wolf because he was talking so little, although now (I notice) he's talking more.

Still looking for a positive reason to vote for a wolf. But it seems to me that the game is mostly about looking for reasons not to vote for someone.

Actually if you are a villager, you should be there to protect the seer. So you need to be some what sneaky that you trip the wolves into thinking you might be the seer when you are not, so they kill you at night. But at the same time, don't get yourself lynched as a wolf by the other villagers.

I still get tripped up and somehow look like a wolf when I am not. <shrug> But that's 1/2 the fun.

 Withdraw Pr0ner 
 


Not really sure who is a wolf yet, but this is getting fun.

Holman wrote:I'm also going to withdraw my vote and try to take a fresh look at things.

 withdraw Pr0ner 
 

Remus West wrote:

Lassr wrote:Frustration that no one else seems to see that Remus took some of my statements and warped them into something else.

No more than you did with RMC's but yes, I did do that, didn't I.

Lassr wrote:Wolf or not, he did not help the village by doing that.

Remus West wrote:That remains to be seen doesn't it.

Lassr wrote:If I am a wolf then I have played very very poorly this game drawing so much attention to myself.

Remus West wrote:Did you draw the attention to yourself or did I point it there?

Scoop20906 wrote:Heck, I will even do a threat list everyone promises to vote with me. Any takers?

Scoop20906 wrote:Yes, I see it.

 Remus West