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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:30 pm
by Rip
ImLawBoy wrote:hepcat wrote:Rip wrote:That's it guys. Embrace the anger.
Use your aggressive feelings. Let the hate flow through you!
Says the guy who spent the better part of the last year raging incessantly about Hillary.
Well, of course. He's the Dark Side in this scenario, so it only makes sense that he would have already harnessed his anger and rage.
Exactly, now I am trying to open your eyes to the great power can be yours as well if you just open your heart.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:47 pm
by Jeff V
Rip wrote:
Exactly, now I am trying to open your eyes to the great power can be yours as well if you just open your heart.
You mean open the chest cavity so you can rip out the heart and squish it in front of our fading eyes.
Vader at least could crush the heart without opening it first.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:05 pm
by tgb
A quick quiz. Who said it?
Donald Trump can go fuck himself. He's not a tough guy. He's a bully and he's a bitch, and he can suck my fucking dick. I'll meet him in the hotel room any motherfucking day of the week and give him a Louisville Slugger. Kiss my motherfucking ass, you bitch, punk, cocksucker.
a) Jeb Bush
b) Bill Clinton
c) Jon Stuart
d) Mickey Rourke
e) Hillary Clinton
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:08 pm
by Isgrimnur
Charlie Sheen?
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Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:37 pm
by Rip
Rosie O'Donnell?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 3:43 pm
by Holman
Donald Trump can go fuck himself. He's not a tough guy. He's a bully and he's a bitch, and he can suck my fucking dick. I'll meet him in the hotel room any motherfucking day of the week and give him a Louisville Slugger. Kiss my motherfucking ass, you bitch, punk, cocksucker.
--Barbara Bush.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:28 pm
by Jaymann
I''m gonna say Chris Christie.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:58 pm
by Rip
Jaymann wrote:I''m gonna say Chris Christie.
I doubt it, no way he could find his dick.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:01 am
by Defiant
Donald Trump?
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:22 am
by GreenGoo
Defiant wrote:Donald Trump?
That crossed my mind as well.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 11:10 am
by Max Peck
Apparently Trump has been promising to
eliminate the US debt (debt, not deficit) within 8 years. How does that work?
Trump campaign spokesman Barry Bennett said the debt could be wiped by selling government assets, including government buildings, land and energy resources. He claims this could bring in $16tn. According to the US Government Accountability Office, though, the federal government only owns $3.1tn in assets. This does not include natural resources or stewardship assets. To get close to Mr Bennett's figure, Americans would have to give up all their national parks, and sell the natural resources on public land including timber and minerals. The country would also have to sell energy reserves like offshore oil and hope the price of that oil - which has fallen over 70% since June 2014 - starts rising.
Deficit hawks, who have decried politicians for ignoring the country's ever mounting debt burden, rose up to point out that although the US needs to address this problem, Mr Trump's overall economic plan on tax and spending would actually take the country in the opposite direction. "If he does what he proposes to do, in eight years the fiscal gap will be even bigger," say Laurence Kotlikoff, professor of economics at Boston University. According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget - a cross-party group - Mr Trump's economic plan would double the national debt, with it growing naturally to a $28tn deficit by 2026, plus another $10tn from the spending and tax cuts Mr Trump has proposed.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:00 pm
by tgb
Max Peck wrote:Apparently Trump has been promising to
eliminate the US debt (debt, not deficit) within 8 years. How does that work?
Can't he just have the U.S. file bankruptcy? It worked for him in the past.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:08 pm
by Zarathud
The US is now considered an international tax haven like Panama but the solution to our debt is to cut taxes? It's as ridiculous as Trump's hair.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:51 pm
by tgb
My friends, we are all interested in the future because that is where you and I will spend the rest of our lives.
And remember my friends, future events like these will affect you in the future.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:52 pm
by Kraken
So the Globe ran this front page from the future today. There's a more legible PDF
here.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:19 pm
by Pyperkub
A bit late to the party (hopefully not already linked), but
Tareeq weighs in on the reportergate:
(BREITBART PYONGYANG) Today all the peoples of TrumpNation expressed shock and remorse at news of the well-documented crimes of slanderous traitors Michelle Fields and Ben Shapiro toward Great Leader Donald Trump and the memory of Eternal Breitbart News President Andrew Breitbart.
Word of the infamous and unnameable deeds of the assassins Fields and Shapiro was released by Dear Leader Joel Pollak, Breitbart News Editor At Large and In-House Counsel, who said thusly: "For months the lies and villainies of the lawless Fields-Shapiro Gang have festered beneath the skin of Breitbart News, before erupting forth like the oozing pus of a treacherous pimple into the sunlight of truth. It was only due to the heroic work of the Special Organs and Great Leader Donald Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski that these treasons against all humanity, and the Populist Nationalist Idea of Great Leader Donald Trump, were dragged forth into the public view, to be spat upon as such slanders deserve."...
And take 2 from Tareeq - in a more Hunter S. Thompson vein:
Chapter One
It was on the red carpet that the Breitbart bitch jumped me. Five foot six inches of wild conservative journalist, jabbering something about illegal aliens and the starving children of Judge Scalia. She'd played her cards right, smiling at me, winking and nodding, waiting until the angel dust kicked in. That was her moment to strike, with me weighing all of nine pounds and ready to fly off at the gentlest breeze. It was only the speed-enhanced reflexes of My Campaign Manager that saved me, grabbing the dyke from behind and throwing her to the ground.
Like a dog.
"Jesus Jumping Christ, man," My Campaign Manager hollered. "Did you see the size of the bomb that chick was carrying? It was fifty megatons if it was two ounces."
"I'll bet it was two ounces, you degenerate dope fiend," I replied from high above, on wings of PCP. ..
Sometimes Tareeq gets to have all the fun!
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:37 pm
by tgb
I miss Tareeq.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 2:57 pm
by Isgrimnur
Delegate rules are
rigged:
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump lashed out at what he called the party's "rigged" delegate selection rules on Monday after rival Ted Cruz swept all of Colorado's 34 delegates during the weekend.
The New York billionaire, who leads in the Republican race for the national convention delegates who will select the party nominee in July, said the process, which varies state by state, was set up to benefit party insiders and shut out insurgent candidates.
...
The rules for choosing convention delegates vary by state and are coming under more intense scrutiny than usual because of the closeness of the Republican race.
Trump, who has brought in veteran strategist Paul Manafort to lead his delegate-acquisition efforts, complained about Cruz's recent success at local and state party meetings where activists select the actual delegates who will attend the national convention in July.
On Sunday, Manafort said the Cruz campaign was using "Gestapo tactics" to win over delegates while on Monday Trump accused Cruz of trying to steal delegates in South Carolina, where Trump won the state primary in February.
"Now they're trying to pick off those delegates one by one," Trump said. "That's not the way democracy is supposed to work. They offer them trips, they offer them all sorts of things and you're allowed to do that. You can buy all these votes."
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:12 pm
by D.A.Lewis
Isgrimnur wrote:Delegate rules are
rigged:
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump lashed out at what he called the party's "rigged" delegate selection rules on Monday after rival Ted Cruz swept all of Colorado's 34 delegates during the weekend.
The New York billionaire, who leads in the Republican race for the national convention delegates who will select the party nominee in July, said the process, which varies state by state, was set up to benefit party insiders and shut out insurgent candidates.
...
The rules for choosing convention delegates vary by state and are coming under more intense scrutiny than usual because of the closeness of the Republican race.
Trump, who has brought in veteran strategist Paul Manafort to lead his delegate-acquisition efforts, complained about Cruz's recent success at local and state party meetings where activists select the actual delegates who will attend the national convention in July.
On Sunday, Manafort said the Cruz campaign was using "Gestapo tactics" to win over delegates while on Monday Trump accused Cruz of trying to steal delegates in South Carolina, where Trump won the state primary in February.
"Now they're trying to pick off those delegates one by one," Trump said. "That's not the way democracy is supposed to work. They offer them trips, they offer them all sorts of things and you're allowed to do that. You can buy all these votes."
It's kinda ironic (or perhaps unbelievable) that a billionaire real estate guy is not familiar with these kinds of tactics. Maybe the backhanded deals move a lot slower in real estate land . . .
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:41 pm
by Isgrimnur
Waterboarding
Donald Trump is taking on CIA Director John Brennan on torture, saying Brennan’s pledge not to allow waterboarding is “ridiculous.”
Brennan said on NBC News Sunday that he would not allow enhanced interrogation tactics, including waterboarding, even if a future president ordered it.
“I think his comments are ridiculous,” Trump said on Fox News Monday. “I mean, they chop off heads and they drown people in cages with 50 in a cage, in big, steel heavy cages, drop them right into the water drown people, and we can’t water-board and we can’t do anything,” Trump said.
“And you know we’re playing on different fields,’ he continued. “And we have a huge problem with ISIS, which we can’t beat, and the reason we can’t beat them is we won’t use strong tactics, whether it’s this or other things.”
...
But Brennan said such measures would damage the CIA. "I will not agree to carry out some of these tactics and techniques I've heard bandied about because this institution needs to endure," he told NBC.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:19 pm
by El Guapo
Isgrimnur wrote:Delegate rules are
rigged:
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump lashed out at what he called the party's "rigged" delegate selection rules on Monday after rival Ted Cruz swept all of Colorado's 34 delegates during the weekend.
The New York billionaire, who leads in the Republican race for the national convention delegates who will select the party nominee in July, said the process, which varies state by state, was set up to benefit party insiders and shut out insurgent candidates.
...
The rules for choosing convention delegates vary by state and are coming under more intense scrutiny than usual because of the closeness of the Republican race.
Trump, who has brought in veteran strategist Paul Manafort to lead his delegate-acquisition efforts, complained about Cruz's recent success at local and state party meetings where activists select the actual delegates who will attend the national convention in July.
On Sunday, Manafort said the Cruz campaign was using "Gestapo tactics" to win over delegates while on Monday Trump accused Cruz of trying to steal delegates in South Carolina, where Trump won the state primary in February.
"Now they're trying to pick off those delegates one by one," Trump said. "That's not the way democracy is supposed to work. They offer them trips, they offer them all sorts of things and you're allowed to do that. You can buy all these votes."
I will say that the Colorado delegate assignment process sounds pretty shady and undemocratic, though that has nothing to do with Cruz taking advantage of it (and Trump could have done so as well).
However, his quote also makes me suspect that Manafort has no idea who the Gestapo were.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:33 pm
by Jaymann
El Guapo wrote:Isgrimnur wrote:Delegate rules are
rigged:
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump lashed out at what he called the party's "rigged" delegate selection rules on Monday after rival Ted Cruz swept all of Colorado's 34 delegates during the weekend.
The New York billionaire, who leads in the Republican race for the national convention delegates who will select the party nominee in July, said the process, which varies state by state, was set up to benefit party insiders and shut out insurgent candidates.
...
The rules for choosing convention delegates vary by state and are coming under more intense scrutiny than usual because of the closeness of the Republican race.
Trump, who has brought in veteran strategist Paul Manafort to lead his delegate-acquisition efforts, complained about Cruz's recent success at local and state party meetings where activists select the actual delegates who will attend the national convention in July.
On Sunday, Manafort said the Cruz campaign was using "Gestapo tactics" to win over delegates while on Monday Trump accused Cruz of trying to steal delegates in South Carolina, where Trump won the state primary in February.
"Now they're trying to pick off those delegates one by one," Trump said. "That's not the way democracy is supposed to work. They offer them trips, they offer them all sorts of things and you're allowed to do that. You can buy all these votes."
I will say that the Colorado delegate assignment process sounds pretty shady and undemocratic, though that has nothing to do with Cruz taking advantage of it (and Trump could have done so as well).
However, his quote also makes me suspect that Manafort has no idea who the Gestapo were.
No, that will come after the burning of the Reichstag.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:02 pm
by Max Peck
Prosecutor will not pursue charges against Trump manager
A Florida prosecutor has decided not to pursue criminal charges against Donald Trump's campaign manager after he was accused of tussling with a reporter. Corey Lewandowski had been charged with simple battery after reporter Michelle Fields said he forcibly grabbed her arm on 8 March. State prosecutors determined there was not enough evidence to convict him. Mr Lewandowski, supported by Mr Trump, accused Ms Fields of exaggerating the event and changing her story. "Our perception is reality, her perception is that she was almost thrown to the ground," said Brad Cohen, Mr Lewandowski's lawyer. Police in Florida had charged Mr Lewandowski after Ms Fields filed a criminal complaint. "Although there was probable cause to make an arrest, the evidence cannot prove all legally required elements of the crime alleged and is insufficient to support a criminal prosecution," prosecutor Dave Aronberg said.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:10 pm
by Kraken
The show is over for the Bobblehead Boys
Three Wellesley 11-year-olds figured they’d found the perfect plan to reprise their hit performance at last year’s Fiske Elementary School talent show, when they donned masks of their retiring principal’s face and danced wildly: This year, they’d be the dancing Donald Trumps.
Because whose head has been thrust before America this year with such frequency and vigor?
So at the morning show for students and staff on Wednesday, they strapped on three officially licensed Donald J. Trump masks from an Internet vendor called Fathead and started dancing.
But not everyone was amused.
The wordless, two-minute act drew at least one complaint to the principal. And a few hours before the evening performance, the boys were given an ultimatum: Ditch the masks, or sit out the show. The Bobblehead Boys, as they’d come to be known, were no more.
Lesson learned.
“No words were spoken. It’s just pop culture. The skit took no stance in support or defamation,” Mattaliano said. And both mothers said the nature of the complaint — whether it had come from someone offended on behalf of Trump or by him — was not made clear to them.
And so a dance act featuring the face of a presidential candidate who decries political correctness in all its forms was silenced so as not to offend anyone.
Video in the link.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:00 pm
by killbot737
Well, most 11 year old boys do have tiny hands since they haven't gone through puberty yet. Maybe the offendee was micro-aggravated by their micro-hands.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:07 pm
by Pyperkub
An interesting interview with Roger Stone (Trump's former aide, but not that one. PS - ignore the sensationalistic headline, the interview is great):
What is it about Trump that so thoroughly freaks out the establishment?
The [consultant and lobbying class] are petrified of Donald Trump because he is completely uncontrollable — he's not beholden to anybody. And he also offers the party voters they have never gotten before: the people who feel left out, who've decided all government is rigged against them, who've been voting forever and nothing ever changes. The problem with the establishment GOP candidates has been that they have no ability to reach beyond the GOP base. Trump is bigger than the Republican Party. Ironically, a billionaire can change the Republican Party from being the Wall Street party back to being the mainstream, more populist-based, non-country-club party. That's great. Look, the only thing worse in politics than being wrong is being boring. And Trump is never boring. Politics is show business for ugly people.
Suppose Trump gets the nomination. What's his path to victory?
Well, let's remember he's not running against Joan of Arc. I mean, he's very polarizing, but Hillary's equally polarizing. So this will be a slugfest. I think he's got to debunk the idea that she's an advocate for women. He's got to debunk the idea that she's an advocate for children. He's got to take apart her record as secretary of state. And then I think he's got to open up the Clinton Foundation and show how they used it to enrich themselves.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:59 am
by Rip
Let's not forget 7-11.......
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:59 am
by Fitzy
Thanks god a presidential candidate is finally thinking of the Slurpees.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:01 am
by PLW
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:10 am
by GreenGoo
Rip wrote:Let's not forget 7-11.......
I didn't see it, but the idea that someone slipped up doesn't bother me at all. He's got some real problems, but this isn't one of them. Mispeaking is entirely understandable, even if it's embarrassing.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:53 pm
by Carpet_pissr
Yeah, I'm in the same boat, even though I loathe the man. Anyone on the campaign trail this long gets a lot of passes for word slips from me...think how tired they all must be by now? Not talking about Palinesque nonsense here, which is a whole 'nother thing, just slips like this one.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:57 pm
by D.A.Lewis
Carpet_pissr wrote:Yeah, I'm in the same boat, even though I loathe the man. Anyone on the campaign trail this long gets a lot of passes for word slips from me...think how tired they all must be by now? Not talking about Palinesque nonsense here, which is a whole 'nother thing, just slips like this one.
Yep. Actually they
ALL slip up some time or other. I remember one time Obama said that there were 57 states in the Union. A couple days ago Rachel Maddox confused New York congressman Peter King with Washington Senator Angus King. Verbal slip ups are funny but usually not indicting.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:11 pm
by Defiant
Yeah, this particular thing he said was more funny than anything else. There are plenty of other times he's said stuff that shows ignorance (like his answer on the nuclear triad in one of the debates), but this is just funny.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:36 pm
by Fitzy
D.A.Lewis wrote:Carpet_pissr wrote:Yeah, I'm in the same boat, even though I loathe the man. Anyone on the campaign trail this long gets a lot of passes for word slips from me...think how tired they all must be by now? Not talking about Palinesque nonsense here, which is a whole 'nother thing, just slips like this one.
Yep. Actually they
ALL slip up some time or other. I remember one time Obama said that there were 57 states in the Union. A couple days ago Rachel Maddox confused New York congressman Peter King with Washington Senator Angus King. Verbal slip ups are funny but usually not indicting.
Why just today someone on OO thought Angus King was from Washington instead of Maine
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 4:02 pm
by D.A.Lewis
Fitzy wrote:D.A.Lewis wrote:Carpet_pissr wrote:Yeah, I'm in the same boat, even though I loathe the man. Anyone on the campaign trail this long gets a lot of passes for word slips from me...think how tired they all must be by now? Not talking about Palinesque nonsense here, which is a whole 'nother thing, just slips like this one.
Yep. Actually they
ALL slip up some time or other. I remember one time Obama said that there were 57 states in the Union. A couple days ago Rachel Maddox confused New York congressman Peter King with Washington Senator Angus King. Verbal slip ups are funny but usually not indicting.
Why just today someone on OO thought Angus King was from Washington instead of Maine
no worries I had Angus King from Oregon, until I fact checked myself . . .
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:22 pm
by Rip
Trump had a really good night.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:11 am
by GreenGoo
Rip wrote:Trump had a really good night.
No surprise there.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 12:55 am
by Rip
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE: DONALD TRUMP IS THE INEVITABLE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE!!
For weeks, reports of Trump’s demise were greatly exaggerated. It had been days of bad news for his campaign, most of it distorted by a GOP establishment wishing and hoping that Trump was finally falling. After all, Ted Cruz had picked off delegates at obscure state conventions, and the 40-something senator had won the majority of contests out West. He’d shown the qualities that make him loved and hated from Harvard to Austin and back to Washington: he’s tenacious, driven and prepared. The elites, like buzzards circling overhead, figured that if Trump couldn’t get the requisite number of delegates before the GOP convention, that his carcass would be picked apart like carrion.
The funeral was premature. With Trump’s big victory in New York on Tuesday, he’s set to sweep primaries in the Mid Atlantic next week when Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia hit the polls. “When you look at these places they have problems, everywhere you look,” Trump said at his victory rally on Tuesday night.
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:13 am
by Defiant
Rip wrote:Let's not forget 7-11.......
In case anyone forgot
Re: The Art of the Donald Trump Sideshow
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:12 am
by El Guapo
Rip wrote:
RESISTANCE IS FUTILE: DONALD TRUMP IS THE INEVITABLE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE!!
For weeks, reports of Trump’s demise were greatly exaggerated. It had been days of bad news for his campaign, most of it distorted by a GOP establishment wishing and hoping that Trump was finally falling. After all, Ted Cruz had picked off delegates at obscure state conventions, and the 40-something senator had won the majority of contests out West. He’d shown the qualities that make him loved and hated from Harvard to Austin and back to Washington: he’s tenacious, driven and prepared. The elites, like buzzards circling overhead, figured that if Trump couldn’t get the requisite number of delegates before the GOP convention, that his carcass would be picked apart like carrion.
The funeral was premature. With Trump’s big victory in New York on Tuesday, he’s set to sweep primaries in the Mid Atlantic next week when Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia hit the polls. “When you look at these places they have problems, everywhere you look,” Trump said at his victory rally on Tuesday night.
The problem for Trump is that the odds of the party turning to Cruz at the convention are not, despite what the article says, "extremely remote." Trump's almost certain to fall short of the first ballot majority he needs. When that happens, Cruz's team by all outward appearances is vastly more organized and has more insiders attached to it, so it seems more probable than not that Cruz would be able to beat Trump at the convention.