I mean that has to translate to jail time. Not sure of the laws in Georgia and I can't think of any federal.laws that prevent this but surely there's something?
Colin Gray told investigators this week he had purchased the gun used in the killings as a holiday present for his son in December 2023, according to two law enforcement sources with direct knowledge of the investigation.
One source told CNN the AR-15-style rifle was purchased at a local gun store as a Christmas present. The timeline the teen’s father provided to authorities would put the gun purchase months after authorities first contacted Gray and his family to investigate school shooting threats made online.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:50 pm
by Isgrimnur
Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:38 pm
my fucking god - how god damn stupid can one be - seriously. Is there a bottom?
Narrator: There was not, in fact, a bottom.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:59 pm
by Zarathud
“Well regulated militia” should never have been ignored by conservatives.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 11:18 pm
by Daehawk
That shooting and another woman threatened to drive her car through the front of a school and burn it to the ground, and then there was a shooting outside a school at the buses near here from someone who went to the school.
If they refuse to ban certain guns that aren't needed for anything but murder then just take guns and throw them in the streets for everyone to pick up..fuck it.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:46 am
by Unagi
Zarathud wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:59 pm
“Well regulated militia” should never have been ignored by conservatives.
I think this will just be my 3 letter reply to every shooting (that doesn't actually come too close to home)... just "Well regulated militia". Make those three words be the battle cry for reasonable gun control, and say it every time some asshole shoots a bunch of strangers for no reason.
Am I the only one that finds some (very) small solace when these events happen in red-leaning states, so that they may start to join the conversation in promoting gun-control?
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:08 am
by LordMortis
Unagi wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:46 am
Am I the only one that finds some (very) small solace when these events happen in red-leaning states, so that they may start to join the conversation in promoting gun-control?
I can't speak for anyone but me but I don't take solace when these events happen in red leaning states. Innocents are innocents. Especially when they are children. That said, I tend to avoid products and services from red leaning states when I am knowledgeable of such things. I sort of personal tempest in a teapot impudent retribution against corporations and people using government to prop up red state governing economic hypocrisy while also using their own purchasing power to fight against liberal "social justice."
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:24 am
by Unagi
LordMortis wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:08 am
I can't speak for anyone but me but I don't take solace when these events happen in red leaning states. Innocents are innocents. Especially when they are children.
I was afraid I may get that reply.
Yeah, I'm not really speaking to the true meaning of 'solace' - I'm with you on the statement you just made. I'm speaking more to the calculus of the solution to the problem - and that if these horrible shootings are 'a fact of life' - I'd like the states that are most likely to push back on federal gun control to figure out that they are wrong, sooner than later.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:29 am
by YellowKing
These are states that have been voting Republican leadership in for decades and still haven't figured out why they're in the bottom of the country economically, medically, etc. I don't hold much hope at all. As we've mentioned before, if Sandy Hook and Uvalde couldn't get comprehensive gun control legislation passed, nothing will.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:37 am
by Unagi
Have a little hope, YK - geeze.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:41 am
by LawBeefaroni
YellowKing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:29 am
These are states that have been voting Republican leadership in for decades and still haven't figured out why they're in the bottom of the country economically, medically, etc. I don't hold much hope at all. As we've mentioned before, if Sandy Hook and Uvalde couldn't get comprehensive gun control legislation passed, nothing will.
When it happens at an elite $40K/year private school on the East Coast, then it will finally hit home for some people.
YellowKing wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:29 am
These are states that have been voting Republican leadership in for decades and still haven't figured out why they're in the bottom of the country economically, medically, etc. I don't hold much hope at all. As we've mentioned before, if Sandy Hook and Uvalde couldn't get comprehensive gun control legislation passed, nothing will.
When it happens at an elite $40K/year private school on the East Coast, then it will finally hit home for some people.
I guess $17k in Nashville wasn't enough.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:17 am
by Kraken
Unagi wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 8:46 am
Am I the only one that finds some (very) small solace when these events happen in red-leaning states, so that they may start to join the conversation in promoting gun-control?
Fairly or not, I react to reports of gun violence in gun-happy states by thinking "well what did you expect?" But objective data correlating gun prevalence with gun deaths are hard to come by, since Congress prohibited the government from underwriting such studies. MA has among the strictest gun laws and fewest shootings in the US, but guns are still too prevalent here because borders are porous.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 11:36 am
by Pyperkub
Unagi wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2024 8:38 pm
my fucking god - how god damn stupid can one be - seriously. Is there a bottom?
There are no metal detectors at my kids' elementary, middle or high schools.
It's a fact of life.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:15 pm
by YellowKing
I guess we should repeal all laws then since crime in general is a "fact of life" and apparently only God can prevent it.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:17 pm
by Smoove_B
Really cementing that he's a "problem solver" that you'd elect to try and address problems. What a great way to respond to anything the voting public asks for.
"That's just something we have to accept. There's nothing that can be done."
Would make your job as an elected official super easy.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:21 pm
by YellowKing
And conveniently glossing over the fact that mass shootings are a fact of life only because his party refuses to take even the most basic, universally popular steps to stop them.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2024 12:25 pm
by LordMortis
But we've tried nothing (well, thoughts and prayers from some, I guess) to fix the problem and yet it remains!
Officials with the Laurel County Sheriff’s Officer are looking for a person of interest in the shooting that happened on Saturday on I-75 at exit 49 and KY-909.
Officials say Joseph A. Couch, 32, is a person of interest.
He is described as white, 5′10 and weighing approximately 154lbs.
Couch is considered armed and dangerous.
...
The Laurel County Sheriff’s Office has confirmed multiple people have been shot.
...
I-75 is closed from exit 41 to exit 59.
Officials with the Laurel County Sheriff’s Officer are looking for a person of interest in the shooting that happened on Saturday on I-75 at exit 49 and KY-909.
Officials say Joseph A. Couch, 32, is a person of interest.
He is described as white, 5′10 and weighing approximately 154lbs.
Couch is considered armed and dangerous.
...
The Laurel County Sheriff’s Office has confirmed multiple people have been shot.
...
I-75 is closed from exit 41 to exit 59.
LordMortis wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 9:08 am
I can't speak for anyone but me but I don't take solace when these events happen in red leaning states. Innocents are innocents. Especially when they are children.
I was afraid I may get that reply.
Yeah, I'm not really speaking to the true meaning of 'solace' - I'm with you on the statement you just made. I'm speaking more to the calculus of the solution to the problem - and that if these horrible shootings are 'a fact of life' - I'd like the states that are most likely to push back on federal gun control to figure out that they are wrong, sooner than later.
I don’t think anyone takes solace (i.e., comfort) from the loss of innocent life when there’s a school shooting in a red state. As Unagi points out above, I think it’s just that there’s some level of identifying a small silver lining in the idea that the horror and tragedy of the incident will spur red states to enact some reasonable gun control measures.
Of course, that idea is 100% counter factual and belied by every single mass shooting we’ve ever experienced in this country. Gun control ain’t happening. It’s why it’s an issue I don’t even focus on any more.
The mother of the teenager charged with fatally shooting two students and two teachers at a Georgia high school on Wednesday called the school that morning and warned a counselor about an "extreme emergency," the Washington Post reported.
Marcee Gray, the mother of the suspected shooter, 14-year-old Colt Gray, said she told the counselor to find her son immediately, the newspaper reported. Phone records provided by a relative to the Post show a 10-minute call to Apalachee High School in Winder, Georgia, at 9:50 a.m., about 30 minutes before the attack began.
...
A school administrator went to her son's math class that morning, according to another student, the Post reported, but he was not in the room.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:58 pm
by em2nought
You need to think outside the box, and figure out how to abort potential future school shooters.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:04 pm
by YellowKing
We tried that, and the Republicans overwhelmingly voted against more mental health support.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:23 pm
by em2nought
Secret Service must have stepped up their game. This time the dude only got within 400 yards.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:31 pm
by Isgrimnur
So about a par 4, then?
Re: Shootings
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:13 am
by em2nought
Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:31 pm
So about a par 4, then?
Not my game, terrible hooks & slices. My balls go as far left and right as they go forward. Too expensive for me too.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 1:13 am
by em2nought
Isgrimnur wrote: Sun Sep 15, 2024 11:31 pm
So about a par 4, then?
Not my game, terrible hooks & slices. My balls go as far left and right as they go forward. Too expensive for me too.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:41 am
by hepcat
Then it’s ironic you’re so desperate to pay for someone else to golf for four years.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:00 pm
by em2nought
hepcat wrote: Mon Sep 16, 2024 7:41 am
Then it’s ironic you’re so desperate to pay for someone else to golf for four years.
I'm still debating the contribution thing. Is it worth all the phone calls, emails, and texts it will bring forth from every Tom, Dick. Harry & Jane who wants my support?
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:19 pm
by hepcat
But Melania may not have enough money for a designer jacket if you withhold money from the Trump “campaign” fund. And Barron? 1200 dollar sneakers don’t grow on trees, pal! They gotta grift or they’ll have to get real jobs!
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:00 pm
by Punisher
hepcat wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:19 pm
But Melania may not have enough money for a designer jacket if you withhold money from the Trump “campaign” fund. And Barron? 1200 dollar sneakers don’t grow on trees, pal! They gotta grift or they’ll have to get real jobs!
Of course not.
They grow on power lines on thev street. I remember seeing plenty of them on the lines ready to pick. Some were fully ripened but others look like you missed picking time and let them just rot. They had holes and were just looking old.
This was in Newark but when I moved to another area I didn't see as much growing. Might be something in the Newark water that helps them grow.
This line seems to be doing well.
Re: Shootings
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:08 pm
by Isgrimnur
Line workers hate this one simple trick!
Re: Shootings
Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:18 am
by Pyperkub
em2nought wrote:Secret Service must have stepped up their game. This time the dude only got within 400 yards.
Officials with the Laurel County Sheriff’s Officer are looking for a person of interest in the shooting that happened on Saturday on I-75 at exit 49 and KY-909.
Brian Thompson, the CEO of UnitedHealth Group’s insurance unit, was fatally shot outside the Hilton hotel in midtown Manhattan on Wednesday morning in what appears to be “a brazen, targeted attack,” the New York Police Department said.
“I want to be clear at this time, every indication is that this was a premeditated, preplanned, targeted attack,” Police Commissioner Jessica Tisch said during a news conference Wednesday following the shooting.
“This does not appear to be a random act of violence,” she said, adding that the department is carrying out a full investigation.
Thompson, 50, led UnitedHealthcare, the largest private health insurer in the U.S. He was on the way to UnitedHealth Group’s investor day set for Wednesday at 8 a.m. ET at the Hilton, the NYPD said. The company canceled that event after the shooting.
A few more CEOs get shot and we may have to start changing gun laws!
Or more likely, provide them with police security details.
